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re: What do I do with my money next?

Posted on 8/22/13 at 4:10 pm to
Posted by AndyJ
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 4:10 pm to
Seriously, I really appreciate everyone's advice. I just found this board, spending most of my time on the recruiting board and rant (so I didn't know what to expect here... But y'all have been awesome)
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65065 posts
Posted on 8/22/13 at 4:41 pm to
You do need someone to work with though. Don't know if your guy is the right guy. But go be a Dr. and let an expert handle the money.
Posted by wegotdatwood
Member since Aug 2009
17094 posts
Posted on 8/22/13 at 4:41 pm to
It's weird, there isn't hardly any trolling on MT.
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65065 posts
Posted on 8/22/13 at 4:58 pm to
Money is serious. We don't play around.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 8/22/13 at 5:47 pm to
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Together we have $200,000 in student loan debt but our interest rate in 1.75%.


Geez. Get this paid off asap.


Couldn't disagree more.

You shouldn't rush to pay off a loan that charges less than the rate of inflation. That's wasting money.

ETA: Think of it this way - instead of paying off the loan early, set it aside to help build a practice. You won't get an SBA loan for 1.75%.
This post was edited on 8/22/13 at 5:49 pm
Posted by Fat Tire
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
438 posts
Posted on 8/22/13 at 6:03 pm to
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re: What do I do with my money next? (Posted on 8/22/13 at 3:55 pm to Brian Wilson) I'd consider DRIPs in dividend bearing stocks. You can be pretty conservative considering you & your wife's profession. Good luck


I use LINK and have been pleased.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51951 posts
Posted on 8/22/13 at 6:11 pm to
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Make a budget - pay yourself first, and follow the baby steps like the other poster said.


Except #4 should be #2
Posted by Anfield Road
Home of the Blue Turf
Member since May 2012
1942 posts
Posted on 8/22/13 at 6:28 pm to
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Except #4 should be #2


Yea, I've never understood why you'd ever turn down free money.
Posted by tdavi48
NA
Member since Mar 2012
606 posts
Posted on 8/22/13 at 6:57 pm to
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Except #4 should be #2


No you're right, they can actually be done at the same time. Always contribute to a 401k as soon as possible. When I was still in college I worked for a company as an intern that offered me a 401K. I did not have any extra money to spend, but I could not turn down free money. I sold my truck and took the equity out of it and bought a less expensive vehicle and contributed 3k a year to my 401k which was matched dollar for dollar!
This post was edited on 8/22/13 at 7:01 pm
Posted by tdavi48
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Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 7:05 pm to
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Couldn't disagree more. You shouldn't rush to pay off a loan that charges less than the rate of inflation. That's wasting money. ETA: Think of it this way - instead of paying off the loan early, set it aside to help build a practice. You won't get an SBA loan for 1.75%.


Exactly with rates that low your money can be making an Average 10-15% somewhere else, let your money work for you not the other way around.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51951 posts
Posted on 8/22/13 at 7:27 pm to
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No you're right, they can actually be done at the same time.


Dave Ramsey expressly states to disregard a match until you have all non house/car debt gone.
Posted by LSU6262
Member since Jun 2008
7525 posts
Posted on 8/22/13 at 7:37 pm to
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Together we have $200,000 in student loan debt but our interest rate in 1.75%.



Geez. Get this paid off asap.


I hope this is sarcasm. his rate is lower than inflation. that is insane
Posted by LSU6262
Member since Jun 2008
7525 posts
Posted on 8/22/13 at 7:39 pm to
I like Dave Ramsey, but disagree with some of his opinions on debt. there is some "good debt", IMO
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89765 posts
Posted on 8/22/13 at 10:02 pm to
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Yea, I've never understood why you'd ever turn down free money.



He says to never turn down the free matching - Step 4 is 15% of your income towards retirement - he doesn't want you to amp that up until you have retired all of your consumer debt/auto loans, etc., paid off and then you go from (typically 5% is matched) whatever your match is, up to 15%.

ETA: This is a slight conflict - the TMM material says to stop the contributions, BUT I've heard him on the radio say you can do the match (but no more) at Step 2.
This post was edited on 8/22/13 at 10:05 pm
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 8/23/13 at 12:15 am to
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I hope this is sarcasm. his rate is lower than inflation. that is insane


No kidding. Not to get OT-ish on this board, but most business owners would seriously consider sucking cock if they could get a $200K loan at 1.75% for an extended period.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
73681 posts
Posted on 8/23/13 at 6:23 am to
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When you say invest in the stock market, what do you mean? Do research and pick stocks or just buy another mutual fund?


dividend paying stocks and possibly growth stocks in a taxable account if everything else is maxed out annually in mutual funds. This board discusses them all the time. Do a search. It just might be helpful. Educate yourself. Knowledge is power.
Posted by kennypowers816
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2010
2446 posts
Posted on 8/23/13 at 8:52 am to
quote:

quote:

Together we have $200,000 in student loan debt but our interest rate in 1.75%.



quote:

Geez. Get this paid off asap.



Couldn't disagree more.

You shouldn't rush to pay off a loan that charges less than the rate of inflation. That's wasting money.


This. With that low of an interest rate, pay the minimums. I would say just keep putting money towards other investments, whether it be equities or possibly additional real estate. Obviously, I'm not sure what type of medicine your in, but you may want to open you're own practice later and you won't get a loan for that cheap if you need funding. And in the end, if you're really that averse to debt, pay off something with a higher interest rate like a house (but I still wouldn't recommend that if you've got something like a 4.5% rate on your house).

Congrats on making me feel poor too.
Posted by Douboy
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
4332 posts
Posted on 8/23/13 at 8:59 am to
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We both have permanent life insurance


Not to sound like a douche, but most people who don't have "extra" money will not understand buying whole life policies. I don't know the details on your policies, but generally, whole life insurance can be a good PART of the investment/savings strategy when you have actual money and not just a pile of Dave Ramsey books.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89765 posts
Posted on 8/23/13 at 9:03 am to
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I don't know the details on your policies, but generally, whole life insurance can be a good PART of the investment/savings strategy when you have actual money and not just a pile of Dave Ramsey books.


I and I agree with all of this.
Posted by meldawg399
nola
Member since Oct 2008
1168 posts
Posted on 8/23/13 at 10:54 am to
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Together we have $200,000 in student loan debt but our interest rate in 1.75%.

With the owning a house talk, do you mean paying the house off quickly? We are probably going to get a new house (selling the old) for a growing family.


My thought is with a growing family and looking to move into a bigger house, paying off the old house and then saving up cash to buy a new house would be more of a priority than paying off the student loan debt at 1.75%. As low as housing loan rates are right now, they will be going up (eventually) so it'd make more sense to have cash in hand (either from the sale of your old house/good equity in your old house) or cold hard cash to put down on the new casa. Getting loans post crash/bailouts has been tougher and nothing makes it easier than having lots of cash and making the new housing loan as risk-free as possible.

That being said, you'd probably be better served to have a loan on the house than any other business loan. You should think about what debt you will potentially have in the future, how soon you may have that debt, and what interest rate that debt would be carried at. If you will be wanting to start a practice soon or another business, you'd be better served to use your cash for that and having a housing loan outstanding at lower interest rate than paying off the house and getting a 7% + business loan.

You have to think over the next 3-5 and 5-10 years what type of debt yuo'd potentially take on. After establishing an emergency fund/rainy day fund, if you have a ton of cash in CDs getting 0.5% interest and don't plan on using the cash for anything else (buying a house/starting a business), it is a better return to use the cash to pay off the student loans. If you'll need cash to start a practice (and loans would start at 7% or a house in the next year or two at 4-5%, the cash would be better served to not borrow at those rates/borrow less at those rates.

There are also financial calculators out there where you can input the term of the loan, interest rate, loan balance etc. so you can see how much you'd pay in interest over the term of the loan. You can play around with it and see how much money you'd save paying current loans down early and how much cash savings that'd save up for future projects. Those calculators will show yuo how much yuo will pay in total interest and total cash paid related to the loan.

I thought my 3.5% student loan was at a good rate. Sounds like yall are in a good spot to be successful financially for the long haul.

ETA: If you eventually go into practice and you and other doctors will all be signing on the loan or the loan will first be secured by the practice's assets, it'd be better to have the loan secured by the practice's assets primarily so you have less personal loss risk, even if it is at a higher rate. If you're looking at doing a solo practice or practice of just you and the wife, it makes more sense to go after the lower rate interest and avoid loans with higher interest rates.
This post was edited on 8/23/13 at 11:02 am
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