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Jurgen is going to have some tough decisions to make
Posted on 7/10/13 at 12:48 am
Posted on 7/10/13 at 12:48 am
All of the sudden, we have a shite done of depth.
In past WC cycles, we have had to make tough decisions, but mostly because certain positions had mediocre players, leading to a Robbie Findley-esque call up. That's not the case this season, we have at least one quality guy at every position.
What's awesome is that there will be some player that will feel left out when it comes time to send 23 players to Brazil.
That is what a quality team is supposed to go through.
Here's a rough depth chart. Try to pick 23 out of this without feeling like someone got left out.
GK
Tim Howard
Brad Guzan
Nick Rimando
CB
Matt Besler
Omar Gonzales
Geoff Cameron
Clarence Goodson
Oguchi Onyewu
Carlos Bocanegra
RB
Steve Cherundolo
Geoff Cameron
Timmy Chandler
Brad Evans
LB
DaMarcus Beasley
Fabian Johnson
Edgar Castillo
CM
Michael Bradley
Jermaine Jones
Stuart Holden
Geoff Cameron
Maurice Edu
Mix Diskerud
Danny Williams
LM
Fabian Johnson
DaMarcus Beasley
Brek Shea
Jose Torres
Edgar Castillo
RM
Graham Zusi
Landon Donovan
Alejandro Bedoya
Joe Corona
FWD
Clint Dempsey
Jozy Altidore
Eddie Johnson
Herculez Gomes
Terrence Boyd
Chris Wondolowski
In past WC cycles, we have had to make tough decisions, but mostly because certain positions had mediocre players, leading to a Robbie Findley-esque call up. That's not the case this season, we have at least one quality guy at every position.
What's awesome is that there will be some player that will feel left out when it comes time to send 23 players to Brazil.
That is what a quality team is supposed to go through.
Here's a rough depth chart. Try to pick 23 out of this without feeling like someone got left out.
GK
Tim Howard
Brad Guzan
Nick Rimando
CB
Matt Besler
Omar Gonzales
Geoff Cameron
Clarence Goodson
Oguchi Onyewu
Carlos Bocanegra
RB
Steve Cherundolo
Geoff Cameron
Timmy Chandler
Brad Evans
LB
DaMarcus Beasley
Fabian Johnson
Edgar Castillo
CM
Michael Bradley
Jermaine Jones
Stuart Holden
Geoff Cameron
Maurice Edu
Mix Diskerud
Danny Williams
LM
Fabian Johnson
DaMarcus Beasley
Brek Shea
Jose Torres
Edgar Castillo
RM
Graham Zusi
Landon Donovan
Alejandro Bedoya
Joe Corona
FWD
Clint Dempsey
Jozy Altidore
Eddie Johnson
Herculez Gomes
Terrence Boyd
Chris Wondolowski
This post was edited on 7/10/13 at 1:04 am
Posted on 7/10/13 at 1:03 am to Broski
My thoughts (selections in Bold):
GK
Tim Howard
Brad Guzan
Nick Rimando - Maybe Sean Johnson or Bill Hamid slips in here
CB
Matt Besler
Omar Gonzales
Geoff Cameron
Clarence Goodson
Oguchi Onyewu - slow
Carlos Bocanegra - old
RB
Steve Cherundolo - old
Geoff Cameron - DM
Timmy Chandler
Brad Evans
LB
DaMarcus Beasley
Fabian Johnson
Edgar Castillo - sucks
CM
Michael Bradley
Jermaine Jones
Stuart Holden
Geoff Cameron
Mix Diskerud - my last strike
Maurice Edu - fallen off since last WC
Danny Williams - future, not now
LM
Fabian Johnson
DaMarcus Beasley - LB
Brek Shea
Jose Torres - not a true winger
Edgar Castillo - sucks
RM
Graham Zusi
Landon Donovan
Alejandro Bedoya - not a bad option
Joe Corona - not a bad option
FWD
Clint Dempsey
Jozy Altidore
Eddie Johnson
Herculez Gomes - Wondo takes his spot
Terrence Boyd - future, not now
Chris Wondolowski
GK
Tim Howard
Brad Guzan
Nick Rimando - Maybe Sean Johnson or Bill Hamid slips in here
CB
Matt Besler
Omar Gonzales
Geoff Cameron
Clarence Goodson
Oguchi Onyewu - slow
Carlos Bocanegra - old
RB
Steve Cherundolo - old
Geoff Cameron - DM
Timmy Chandler
Brad Evans
LB
DaMarcus Beasley
Fabian Johnson
Edgar Castillo - sucks
CM
Michael Bradley
Jermaine Jones
Stuart Holden
Geoff Cameron
Mix Diskerud - my last strike
Maurice Edu - fallen off since last WC
Danny Williams - future, not now
LM
Fabian Johnson
DaMarcus Beasley - LB
Brek Shea
Jose Torres - not a true winger
Edgar Castillo - sucks
RM
Graham Zusi
Landon Donovan
Alejandro Bedoya - not a bad option
Joe Corona - not a bad option
FWD
Clint Dempsey
Jozy Altidore
Eddie Johnson
Herculez Gomes - Wondo takes his spot
Terrence Boyd - future, not now
Chris Wondolowski
Posted on 7/10/13 at 1:06 am to NOTORlOUSD
i might have cherundolo over evans and i havent decided on my center backs but the rest i agree with
Posted on 7/10/13 at 1:06 am to NOTORlOUSD
If Cherundolo is healthy and wants to play he's in over Evans not even a debate
Posted on 7/10/13 at 1:08 am to Broski
quote:
Tim Howard
Brad Guzan
Nick Rimando
Matt Besler
Omar Gonzales
Geoff Cameron
Clarence Goodson
Steve Cherundolo
Timmy Chandler
Brad Evans
DaMarcus Beasley
Fabian Johnson
Michael Bradley
Jermaine Jones
Stuart Holden
Mix Diskerud
Brek Shea
Graham Zusi
Landon Donovan
Clint Dempsey
Jozy Altidore
Eddie Johnson
Herculez Gomes
I picked Brad Evans over Danny Williams because I'm very skeptical of Cherundolo making it to 2014.
I think Cameron's versatility makes Williams expendable. A lot can change in a year, though.
Posted on 7/10/13 at 1:12 am to NOTORlOUSD
quote:
NOTORlOUSD
You bolded Fab Johnson twice
Posted on 7/10/13 at 1:18 am to Broski
GK - Tim Howard
GK - Brad Guzan
GK - Nick Rimando
CB - Matt Besler
CB - Geoff Cameron
CB - Omar Gonzales
CB - Clarence Goodson(Hopefully by the time for Brazil someone can step up and take this place from Goodson)
RB - Timmy Chandler
RB - Brad Evans
(wild card for this position is Eric Lijah)
LB - DeMarcus Beasley
LB - Fabian Johnson
MF - Micheal Bradley
MF - Stuart Holden
MF - Jermaine Jones
MF - Mix Diskerud
MF - Danny Williams/Maurice Edu(basically take who is in the best form and coming off of a good season)
MF - Landon Donavon
MF - Graham Zusi
FW - Jozy Altidore
FW - Clint Dempsey
FW - Eddie Johnson
FW - Terrance Boyd
FW - Herc Gomez
GK - Brad Guzan
GK - Nick Rimando
CB - Matt Besler
CB - Geoff Cameron
CB - Omar Gonzales
CB - Clarence Goodson(Hopefully by the time for Brazil someone can step up and take this place from Goodson)
RB - Timmy Chandler
RB - Brad Evans
(wild card for this position is Eric Lijah)
LB - DeMarcus Beasley
LB - Fabian Johnson
MF - Micheal Bradley
MF - Stuart Holden
MF - Jermaine Jones
MF - Mix Diskerud
MF - Danny Williams/Maurice Edu(basically take who is in the best form and coming off of a good season)
MF - Landon Donavon
MF - Graham Zusi
FW - Jozy Altidore
FW - Clint Dempsey
FW - Eddie Johnson
FW - Terrance Boyd
FW - Herc Gomez
This post was edited on 7/10/13 at 1:20 am
Posted on 7/10/13 at 1:23 am to Broski
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This post was edited on 7/21/23 at 11:05 am
Posted on 7/10/13 at 1:23 am to TheIrishFro
Beasley is going to make it.
Posted on 7/10/13 at 1:23 am to Broski
Double post.
This post was edited on 7/10/13 at 1:25 am
Posted on 7/10/13 at 1:24 am to Broski
Here's mine
GOALKEEPERS (3): Tim Howard, Brad Guzan, Nick Rimando
DEFENDERS (7): Matt Besler, Omar Gonzales, Steve Cherundolo, DaMarcus Beasley, Geoff Cameron, Clarence Goodson, Timothy Chandler
MIDFIELDERS (9): Michael Bradley, Jermaine Jones, Landon Donovan, Clint Dempsey, Fabian Johnson, Graham Zusi, Stuart Holden, Maurice Edu, Brek Shea
FORWARDS (4): Jozy Altidore, Eddie Johnson, Herculez Gomez, Terrence Boyd
Depth chart would look like this (starters in bold)
GK
Howard
Guzan
Rimando
RB
Cherundolo
Cameron
Chandler
CB
Besler
Gonzales
Cameron
Goodson
Edu
LB
Beasley
F. Johnson
Chandler
RM
Donovan
Zusi
E. Johnson
CM
Bradley
Jones
Holden
Edu
LM
F. Johnson
Beasley
Shea
E. Johnson
FWD
Dempsey
Altidore
Donovan
Gomez
E. Johnson
Boyd
GOALKEEPERS (3): Tim Howard, Brad Guzan, Nick Rimando
DEFENDERS (7): Matt Besler, Omar Gonzales, Steve Cherundolo, DaMarcus Beasley, Geoff Cameron, Clarence Goodson, Timothy Chandler
MIDFIELDERS (9): Michael Bradley, Jermaine Jones, Landon Donovan, Clint Dempsey, Fabian Johnson, Graham Zusi, Stuart Holden, Maurice Edu, Brek Shea
FORWARDS (4): Jozy Altidore, Eddie Johnson, Herculez Gomez, Terrence Boyd
Depth chart would look like this (starters in bold)
GK
Howard
Guzan
Rimando
RB
Cherundolo
Cameron
Chandler
CB
Besler
Gonzales
Cameron
Goodson
Edu
LB
Beasley
F. Johnson
Chandler
RM
Donovan
Zusi
E. Johnson
CM
Bradley
Jones
Holden
Edu
LM
F. Johnson
Beasley
Shea
E. Johnson
FWD
Dempsey
Altidore
Donovan
Gomez
E. Johnson
Boyd
This post was edited on 7/10/13 at 1:35 am
Posted on 7/10/13 at 1:24 am to hendersonshands
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This post was edited on 7/21/23 at 11:05 am
Posted on 7/10/13 at 1:25 am to DB10_AFC
quote:
(wild card for this position is Eric Lichaj)
Nah, barring a ridiculous season from him this year.
Posted on 7/10/13 at 1:35 am to Broski
While our first 11 is real quality, we don't have the proven depth of most of the big international teams. Would you guys really want Wondo or Gomez to lead the line if Jozy got hurt? Those two players are fine for CONCACAF opposition, but I don't believe in them against decent teams.
Our CB pairing is woefully inexperienced, and can hardly be counted as a sure thing. Goodson can't be relied upon, and Onyewu is a shadow of the player he could have become. Bocanegra is in the twilight of his career, though he might be a reliable fourth option.
Then at LB we are going with a player in Beasley who has just been converted to LB, and a promising young player in Johnson. We've struggled for a consistent LB for years now, and while Beasley has played well recently, I'd like to see him play against a winger who can actually pin him back.
At RB we have more options, and I'm confident we can find someone to get the job done.
In midfield we have the most options, with Jones, Bradley, Holden, Cameron, and Diskerund my top options.
Then our attack will rely on Jozy, Donovan, Dempsey and someone else. We know Jozy will be up top, but Dempsey and Donovan can play a wide variety of positions across the front line, which gives us some tactical options depending on our opponent. Zusi seems like a good option out wide, though he strikes me as a little slow.
Our attacking depth still has to be sorted, as we don't have the international pedigree in those positions as we do deeper in midfield.
Someone unexpected will step up, and hopefully it will be a young attacking player who can give something different to our attack.
Our CB pairing is woefully inexperienced, and can hardly be counted as a sure thing. Goodson can't be relied upon, and Onyewu is a shadow of the player he could have become. Bocanegra is in the twilight of his career, though he might be a reliable fourth option.
Then at LB we are going with a player in Beasley who has just been converted to LB, and a promising young player in Johnson. We've struggled for a consistent LB for years now, and while Beasley has played well recently, I'd like to see him play against a winger who can actually pin him back.
At RB we have more options, and I'm confident we can find someone to get the job done.
In midfield we have the most options, with Jones, Bradley, Holden, Cameron, and Diskerund my top options.
Then our attack will rely on Jozy, Donovan, Dempsey and someone else. We know Jozy will be up top, but Dempsey and Donovan can play a wide variety of positions across the front line, which gives us some tactical options depending on our opponent. Zusi seems like a good option out wide, though he strikes me as a little slow.
Our attacking depth still has to be sorted, as we don't have the international pedigree in those positions as we do deeper in midfield.
Someone unexpected will step up, and hopefully it will be a young attacking player who can give something different to our attack.
Posted on 7/10/13 at 7:40 am to crazy4lsu
quote:
You bolded Fab Johnson twice
Good point, Mix gets back in on my squad.
Posted on 7/10/13 at 7:41 am to crazy4lsu
GK(3)- Tim Howard, Brad Guzan, Nick Rimando
DEF(8)-Steve Cherundolo, Timmy Chandler, Matt Besler, Omar Gonzales, Geoff Cameron, John Anthony Brooks, Fabian Johnson, DeMarcus Beasley
MID(7)-Alejandro Bedoya, Graham Zusi, Jermaine Jones, Michael Bradley, Stu Holden, Brek Shea, Josh Gatt
FWD(5)- Jozy Altidore, Clint Dempsey, Terrance Boyd, Landon Donovan, Hercules Gomez
Guys that just missed
Mix
Will Bruin
Eric Lichaj
Clarence Goodson
Sean Johnson
Wondo
Brad Evans
Jack Macinerny
Danny Williams
Joe Corona
Guys that just made it
Dolo
JAB
JJ
Gomez
Bedoya
Rimando
DEF(8)-Steve Cherundolo, Timmy Chandler, Matt Besler, Omar Gonzales, Geoff Cameron, John Anthony Brooks, Fabian Johnson, DeMarcus Beasley
MID(7)-Alejandro Bedoya, Graham Zusi, Jermaine Jones, Michael Bradley, Stu Holden, Brek Shea, Josh Gatt
FWD(5)- Jozy Altidore, Clint Dempsey, Terrance Boyd, Landon Donovan, Hercules Gomez
Guys that just missed
Mix
Will Bruin
Eric Lichaj
Clarence Goodson
Sean Johnson
Wondo
Brad Evans
Jack Macinerny
Danny Williams
Joe Corona
Guys that just made it
Dolo
JAB
JJ
Gomez
Bedoya
Rimando
Posted on 7/10/13 at 8:05 am to Broski
GK
Tim Howard
Brad Guzan
Nick Rimando
C B
Besler
Gonzo
Cameron
Goodson
RB/LB
Beasley
Johnson
Chandler
Dolo
CM
Bradley
Jones
Holden
Mix
LM/RM
Donovan
Zusi
Shea
Corona
FWD
Dempsey
Jozy
GAM
Gomez
Multiple guys can obviously play multiple positions here but if we had to pick today this is our best 23.
Tim Howard
Brad Guzan
Nick Rimando
C B
Besler
Gonzo
Cameron
Goodson
RB/LB
Beasley
Johnson
Chandler
Dolo
CM
Bradley
Jones
Holden
Mix
LM/RM
Donovan
Zusi
Shea
Corona
FWD
Dempsey
Jozy
GAM
Gomez
Multiple guys can obviously play multiple positions here but if we had to pick today this is our best 23.
This post was edited on 7/10/13 at 8:07 am
Posted on 7/10/13 at 8:32 am to etm512
That would be my list as well.
Take either Gomez or Wondo, whoever is in the best form at the time.
Take either Gomez or Wondo, whoever is in the best form at the time.
This post was edited on 7/10/13 at 8:34 am
Posted on 7/10/13 at 8:42 am to lsugradman
I think I still take Gomez for the simple fact that he can play out wide in a pinch. I wouldn't expect either to see much time unless there were injuries or suspensions galore.
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