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re: Jurgen is going to have some tough decisions to make
Posted on 7/10/13 at 10:41 am to Col Reb is my mascot
Posted on 7/10/13 at 10:41 am to Col Reb is my mascot
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TB: young and has the potential to be the future for the USA team, won't see much playing time but he'll be in Brazil
If you don't think he can contribute, why does he go again?
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Posted on 7/10/13 at 10:50 am to Hester Carries
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Cameron will absolutely be on this team.
I have him in my team, I didn't feel the need to bold him 3 times, so I did it once.
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EJ will be on this team
We'll see how he's doing in a year
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Wondoloski is a 30 year old MLS lifer and goal poacher, he is not an "upstart" in any way.
Age and career wise, no. National team wise, I think he will turn into one for us. This is his last shot at making a world cup roster and I think he makes it AND see's descent minutes as a sub in Brazil.
Posted on 7/10/13 at 10:55 am to Sheep
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Sheep
Because the experience could potentially be huge for him. 23 players on an 11 man roster, not everyone will see descent minutes. If he is truly the future forward of our team, you don't want his first experience to be 5 years from now in the World Cup with a ton of pressure. Let him go and get the experience of being on a World Cup squad, it will pay off big in 5 years when we will need him to produce.
Posted on 7/10/13 at 11:11 am to Col Reb is my mascot
I see no value in bringing a player that can't contribute.
I would reserve the "bring him for the experience" excuse for a transcendent, once in a generation talent.
I don't see any indication of that from Boyd.
I would reserve the "bring him for the experience" excuse for a transcendent, once in a generation talent.
I don't see any indication of that from Boyd.
Posted on 7/10/13 at 11:13 am to Col Reb is my mascot
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Because the experience could potentially be huge for him. 23 players on an 11 man roster, not everyone will see descent minutes
This.
Not everyone is going to play. I'd rather Boyd get experience than someone else that doesn't have much of a future with our team. That's why I had Mix on my roster. There's a slight chance he'll play, but he's going to see a lot of the bench in Brazil.
Posted on 7/10/13 at 11:15 am to Sheep
Outside of our starters, few players will actually contribute. There's basically 0 chance that or #3 goalie ever steps on the field, but he will be on the team.
Posted on 7/10/13 at 11:25 am to pvilleguru
I like Wondo over Herc b/c he's a true target striker. If we play a 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3, we will need a backup for Jozy.
Posted on 7/10/13 at 11:29 am to pvilleguru
GK - Tim Howard
GK - Brad Guzan
GK - Nick Rimando
CB - Matt Besler
CB - Omar Gonzales
CB - Geoff Cameron
CB - Clarence Goodson
RB - Timmy Chandler
RB - Brad Evans
LB - DeMarcus Beasley
LB - Fabian Johnson
MF - Micheal Bradley
MF - Stuart Holden
MF - Jermaine Jones
MF - Landon Donovan
MF - Brek Shea
MF - Mix Diskerud
MF - Graham Zusi
FW - Jozy Altidore
FW - Clint Dempsey
FW - Eddie Johnson
FW - Chris Wondolowski
FW - Herculez Gomez
I think this is a really good 23, there is a lot of versatility, EJ can play on the wings, Cameron can move up to the midfield, Fabian can move up to the wing. I would feel comfortable with putting everyone in a WC game except for Goodson and Rimando, hopefully another CB can step up and take his place, and there is almost no chance Rimando sees the field.
GK - Brad Guzan
GK - Nick Rimando
CB - Matt Besler
CB - Omar Gonzales
CB - Geoff Cameron
CB - Clarence Goodson
RB - Timmy Chandler
RB - Brad Evans
LB - DeMarcus Beasley
LB - Fabian Johnson
MF - Micheal Bradley
MF - Stuart Holden
MF - Jermaine Jones
MF - Landon Donovan
MF - Brek Shea
MF - Mix Diskerud
MF - Graham Zusi
FW - Jozy Altidore
FW - Clint Dempsey
FW - Eddie Johnson
FW - Chris Wondolowski
FW - Herculez Gomez
I think this is a really good 23, there is a lot of versatility, EJ can play on the wings, Cameron can move up to the midfield, Fabian can move up to the wing. I would feel comfortable with putting everyone in a WC game except for Goodson and Rimando, hopefully another CB can step up and take his place, and there is almost no chance Rimando sees the field.
Posted on 7/10/13 at 11:42 am to pvilleguru
I could be wrong, but I think 1998 was the last time the US didn't use EVERY field player.
There's no room for "watching and learning."
Every player needs to be either:
- a starter
- a reasonable facsimile of a starter
- bring a completely different skill set than anyone else
- able to play multiple positions well
Mix is showing to be a talented player, but he plays the same role as Bradley and Holden (Is there value in bringing three of the same guy?)
Edu (or Beckerman
) may prove more VALUABLE because they are a "break up the offense player" only. Are either of them a better player than Mix? I don't think so.
But a WC roster is not a FIFA 13 roster. You don't bring your 21 best field players. You bring your top 15-16 and your best pieces to complement those.
I still don't see where Boyd fits any of those needs.
Jozy Altidore and Charlie Davies didn't go to the 2006 WC and they did okay in 2010 qualifying.
There's no room for "watching and learning."
Every player needs to be either:
- a starter
- a reasonable facsimile of a starter
- bring a completely different skill set than anyone else
- able to play multiple positions well
Mix is showing to be a talented player, but he plays the same role as Bradley and Holden (Is there value in bringing three of the same guy?)
Edu (or Beckerman
) may prove more VALUABLE because they are a "break up the offense player" only. Are either of them a better player than Mix? I don't think so. But a WC roster is not a FIFA 13 roster. You don't bring your 21 best field players. You bring your top 15-16 and your best pieces to complement those.
I still don't see where Boyd fits any of those needs.
Jozy Altidore and Charlie Davies didn't go to the 2006 WC and they did okay in 2010 qualifying.
Posted on 7/10/13 at 11:51 am to Sheep
I just think that, if you are down to your last striker on the depth chart, I would rather Terrence Boyd going up against other world cup teams than Wondo.
I think he is quicker, has more technical ball skills, and is more of a physical presence.
I think he is quicker, has more technical ball skills, and is more of a physical presence.
Posted on 7/10/13 at 11:52 am to Sheep
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I could be wrong, but I think 1998 was the last time the US didn't use EVERY field player.
Brian Ching went and didn't play in 06.
Posted on 7/10/13 at 11:53 am to Col Reb is my mascot
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Col Reb is my mascot
How is GAM inconsistent but Wondo isn't?
Seems like you are letting that hat trick go to your head.
Posted on 7/10/13 at 11:53 am to Sheep
Boyd is a long long ways off before he makes any sort of positive impact for us in any meaningful game. Unless he goes absolutely apeshit this next year he should not be going to Brazil.
Posted on 7/10/13 at 12:04 pm to The Boat
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Brian Ching went and didn't play in 06.
Good call. But his purpose was to be Brian McBride if Brian McBride couldn't play in a game. It's a one for one replacement.
I still don't see what Boyd does today that would warrant inclusion, other than "he might be good one day."
I think we'll be in a similar place as we were in 2010 (albeit with better options):
Dempsey (obviously)
Jozy (for Jozy)
Eddie (for straightline speed & versatility)
The two most in form goal scorers (from March - May), whoever that may be
Posted on 7/10/13 at 12:19 pm to Sheep
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Eddie (for straightline speed & versatility)
I don't think his speed is enough to override an otherwise mediocre skill set.
Posted on 7/10/13 at 12:25 pm to acgeaux129
I think he and Herc are playing for one spot. Eddie's faster, Herc's a little better across the board... but they fill the same roles.
I think that's how people are looking at this wrong. It's not "how good is this guy?", it's "what does this guy do, and who else does it?"
I think that's how people are looking at this wrong. It's not "how good is this guy?", it's "what does this guy do, and who else does it?"
Posted on 7/10/13 at 12:28 pm to Broski
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GK - Tim Howard
GK - Brad Guzan
GK - Nick Rimando
CB - Matt Besler
CB - Omar Gonzales
CB - Geoff Cameron
CB - Clarence Goodson
RB - Timmy Chandler
RB - Brad Evans
LB - DeMarcus Beasley
LB - Fabian Johnson
MF - Micheal Bradley
MF - Stuart Holden
MF - Jermaine Jones
MF - Landon Donovan
MF - Brek Shea
MF - Mix Diskerud
MF - Graham Zusi
FW - Jozy Altidore
FW - Clint Dempsey
FW - Eddie Johnson
FW - Chris Wondolowski
FW - Herculez Gomez
this.
This post was edited on 7/10/13 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 7/10/13 at 12:30 pm to Sheep
Herc has been in pretty much every WCQ camp, Wondo not so much.
Unless Herc gets injured, dies, stops getting club PT, he will be on the plane to Brazil.
Unless Herc gets injured, dies, stops getting club PT, he will be on the plane to Brazil.
Posted on 7/10/13 at 12:32 pm to Sheep
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I think that's how people are looking at this wrong. It's not "how good is this guy?", it's "what does this guy do, and who else does it?"
Yep, Johnson fits a similar mold to Cameron except on the offensive end.
He isn't the best in the pool at any position, but he can play many positions at a quality level which makes for a perfect reserve.
Posted on 7/10/13 at 12:44 pm to Broski
I really wish we could have seen Boyd play and play alot with this Gold Cup squad. Hard to know whether he really deserves inclusion in the WC squad when he barely ever gets on the pitch.
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