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re: Eric Bledsoe vs. Trey Burke
Posted on 5/10/13 at 4:57 pm to 504Voodoo
Posted on 5/10/13 at 4:57 pm to 504Voodoo
Burke college- 46% FG, 38% 3P
Bledsoe college- 46% FG, 38% 3P
Success in college doesnt equate to success in the NBA.
Bledsoe has proven success in the NBA. Burke hasn't. I like both (Bledsoe way more) but in this scenario it's obviously Burke.
Im not going to go into defending Bledsoe, but everyone will understand when he gets a starting job. Darren Collison comparison?
Bledsoe college- 46% FG, 38% 3P
Success in college doesnt equate to success in the NBA.
Bledsoe has proven success in the NBA. Burke hasn't. I like both (Bledsoe way more) but in this scenario it's obviously Burke.
Im not going to go into defending Bledsoe, but everyone will understand when he gets a starting job. Darren Collison comparison?
Posted on 5/10/13 at 6:44 pm to Jordanreid2000
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If he works hard, CP3-like career or better. I would dare to say I'd rather Burke than CP back in NO.
oh lawwwd
...i'll take Bledsoe. it wouldn't cost a top 5 pick.
This post was edited on 5/10/13 at 6:49 pm
Posted on 5/10/13 at 11:11 pm to 504Voodoo
I am happy with either one but I go with Burke who has more potential!
Posted on 5/10/13 at 11:28 pm to BayouBengal0505
I see I'm alone here, but I'm really leaning towards bledsoe. I want the proven guy on defense. Who i know for a fact will be a major upgrade from vasquez. I'm jus not sure about burke. Im not overly impressed over him like most others. I think he will be a decent pg. Possibly have a rather succesful career. But to be the next cp3 as some people hype hype him up to be..naww not at all
Posted on 5/10/13 at 11:47 pm to Jester
Anyone can toe the line on every issue and operate under the guise of an Internet contrarian, jesty poo
Your rotflmao suggests you think Bledsoe won't be good. You should give a definitive stance instead of being cryptic for the sake of being an interest BA
Your rotflmao suggests you think Bledsoe won't be good. You should give a definitive stance instead of being cryptic for the sake of being an interest BA
Posted on 5/11/13 at 5:36 am to QJenk
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Who i know for a fact will be a major upgrade from vasquez.
The mighty Oz has spoken.
Posted on 5/11/13 at 5:43 am to GynoSandberg
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Your rotflmao suggests you think Bledsoe won't be good. You should give a definitive stance instead of being cryptic for the sake of being an interest BA
Do I really need to explain this for the 4,000,000th time? I think Bledsoe will continue to be what he had proven to be in the NBA, a good backup point guard. His own team gave up a bunch to replace him and they improved greatly by doing so. Oh, but his PER is high going against backups.
I was laughing at your delivery. You have no crystal ball. Nobody is saying he is terrible, but you keep acting like he's a future all-star, which I think is laughable, hence the emoticon.
Posted on 5/11/13 at 11:59 am to Jester
id love bledsoe if we could keep our lotto pick, otherwise take burke with the 4th or 5th pick and im fine with that too, just get us a point guard that can deny the lane and actualy close out on 3 point shooters i think greivas is a great backup in the league but he IS NOT a good enough defender to be on the court in the nba when it matters most.. i hope we keep roberts and get blesdoe somehow while keeping out lotto pick to get otto porter, this would be FAP worthy
Posted on 5/11/13 at 3:38 pm to 504Voodoo
Bledsoe Bledsoe Bledsoe!
...Although if those are our two options I'd say keep Vasquez
...Although if those are our two options I'd say keep Vasquez
This post was edited on 5/11/13 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 5/12/13 at 9:29 pm to teke184
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Given their relative glut at the 2 and the 3
They don't have one player worth a damn on their roster. You take BPA.
Posted on 5/12/13 at 10:59 pm to 504Voodoo
This is not close
Give me the guy who has already proven to be a quality NBA player
Give me the guy who has already proven to be a quality NBA player
Posted on 5/13/13 at 9:22 am to 504Voodoo
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Bledsoe
Weaknesses: Ability to run offense
Shooting
FWIW, when he was at UK he ran the point a little bit. Especially if Wall got into any kind of foul trouble. I think he could certainly adapt.
Posted on 5/13/13 at 9:37 am to BluegrassBelle
I agree. He gets knocked a bit because he isnt a traditional pg. No rule says your pg must get X assists in order to be good or a good fit.
Posted on 5/13/13 at 9:47 am to corndeaux
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I agree. He gets knocked a bit because he isnt a traditional pg. No rule says your pg must get X assists in order to be good or a good fit.
It's more than assist numbers. You've made it pretty clear that you are anti-assist as an indicator of guard play, but a PG should get assists, or he's either a chucker or not a point guard.
Bledsoe is touted as this defensive/transition monster by several posters, but transition often leads to easy assists. Where are those? Overall, it implies he is a good finisher, but has limited court vision, which I want in a PG.
Frankly, he is another combo guard that is pretty redundant with Gordon. People are trying to make him a starting PG here, but I just don't see it. If I eat crow, so be it. I really just don't think his numbers will project out to a starting PG role.
Posted on 5/13/13 at 10:02 am to QJenk
I think Burke will be a very solid PG. But, I like Bledsoe more. He will make the Pelicans faster for easy baskets and make the perimeter defense much much better.
Most people are talking about Burke like he is proven in the NBA. I have no doubt his offensive skills will translate but Bledsoe has NBA experience and this team can definitely use some experience.
Most people are talking about Burke like he is proven in the NBA. I have no doubt his offensive skills will translate but Bledsoe has NBA experience and this team can definitely use some experience.
Posted on 5/13/13 at 10:04 am to Jester
This is also the first season Bledsoe has shot over 28% from 3P. His ast/to was at or below 1.5 prior to this year. This is his best year for ast/to by far, and it's still only 1.58. That's without having to carry the load and bring the ball up the court against the best opposing defense.
I'm just not sold on him as a big upgrade. He could definitely improve our rotation, but I don't think he is a big splash in our pond.
I'm just not sold on him as a big upgrade. He could definitely improve our rotation, but I don't think he is a big splash in our pond.
Posted on 5/13/13 at 10:08 am to BarbaricPelican
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He will make the Pelicans faster for easy baskets.
Faster does not guarantee easier baskets or he would have either a high true shooting percentage or efficient assist/turnover numbers, but he has neither.
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and make the perimeter defense much much better
He is definitely better than Vasquez defensively, but the cost of that is just too high, in my opinion.
Posted on 5/13/13 at 10:12 am to Jester
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He is definitely better than Vasquez defensively, but the cost of that is just too high, in my opinion.
Which has been my objection to him as well.
Trading for him or paying him a big contract is fine. Trading for him in order to give him a big contract is too much for what we'd get.
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