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re: Bioshock Infinite thread (NO SPOILERS)
Posted on 3/27/13 at 11:10 pm to THRILLHO
Posted on 3/27/13 at 11:10 pm to THRILLHO
quote:I was talking about the cool making of video in the credits too.
Don't think I quite understood that part, but overall the ending was superb.
The after credits video just makes you wonder.
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 11:30 pm to DoUrden
So a week or 2 ago this guy asked how free games work with graphics cards. Someone answered him and he asked if anyone wanted his free games (BI and Tomb Raider) I asked for Infinite, not actually expecting to get it considering this is the internet and people aren't that nice. Looked in my Inbox and the guy sent me a working Infinite code. Cool beans. Hope my computer can run it.
Posted on 3/28/13 at 12:24 am to happyhappyjoyjoy
So my bi-racial employee threw the baseball at the couple... 
Posted on 3/28/13 at 12:26 am to happyhappyjoyjoy
Tha frick? reddit? Nice dude.
Posted on 3/28/13 at 12:38 am to Scruffy
finished the game.
feels like my brain is melting, but it is making me re-evaluate every piece of dialogue I heard in the entire game.
kudos to Irrational. it's rare that I devote this much thought to a video game plot.
feels like my brain is melting, but it is making me re-evaluate every piece of dialogue I heard in the entire game.
kudos to Irrational. it's rare that I devote this much thought to a video game plot.
Posted on 3/28/13 at 12:45 am to CornDogCologne
quote:I started another game and the first time I ran into the Lutrece's and they asked you to pick heads or tails and the board has heads checked off a bunch, I thought holy shite! That makes sense now!
feels like my brain is melting, but it is making me re-evaluate every piece of dialogue I heard in the entire game.
Dialogue in this game is amazing.
Posted on 3/28/13 at 1:52 am to Scruffy
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I started another game and the first time I ran into the Lutrece's and they asked you to pick heads or tails and the board has heads checked off a bunch, I thought holy shite! That makes sense now!
***SPOILERS****
How do you figure that made sense? In the link below, someone mentioned that they felt, with an infinite amount of different universes, one of them was bound to have a situation where all odds were demolished and heads came up ~100 consecutive times. That makes the most sense to me (though it's still a huge coincidence that Booker was in that universe). While Lutece(s) apparently had the ability to go to different universes at will, and at the right time, they didn't have the ability to affect the outcome of the flip.
****END SPOILERS******
And here's a good link for anyone that's finished the game:
LINK /
The article is worth a read and it has quite a few comments from people voicing their own opinions.
This post was edited on 3/28/13 at 2:03 am
Posted on 3/28/13 at 2:20 am to THRILLHO
quote:
***SPOILERS****
quote:Well, considering the small number of times that were checked off on the chalkboard, it would be safe to assume that at that particular moment, they had not encountered the Booker who chose tails. There may have been another time where they did, but at that particular moment, they had not. I also don't believe that they had the same power that Elizabeth/Anna does.
How do you figure that made sense?
Or, maybe that was the number of Bookers who had already attempted to rescue Elizabeth and failed, showing the futility of his mission. We get to meet an Elizabeth who Booker failed at one point too.
Or maybe it was nothing more than a game of chance showing that success or failure depends on nothing more than chance. Or is it that success or failure does not depend on chance?
Or maybe it was just to indicate the similarity between these multiple instances. These different universes all have similar choices that result in the same answer, while they have other choices that do not.
Maybe I am thinking WAAAAAAY too hard about this game, but the story is quite intriguing. Plus, plotholes and loopholes are rampant in any story that involves multiple dimensions/time travel.
Although, I don't think it is fair to call them plotholes or loopholes. An infinite number of possibilities allows for an infinite number of situations which creates an infinite number of questions with an infinite number of answers.
Now I'm just having a discussion with myself.
This post was edited on 3/28/13 at 2:45 am
Posted on 3/28/13 at 2:56 am to THRILLHO
SPOILERS
That was an interesting read. I really liked this quote.
I'm gonna play this game again and try to pay even more attention. Also, I only ended with around 60 of the 80 voxophones. I need to find the other 20.
That was an interesting read. I really liked this quote.
quote:It is a Schrodinger's cat situation. That wasn't apparent to me when I heard it.
There’s a relevant quote early on in the game I can’t quite recall verbatim, but it’s something about being both a sinner and a saint when under water during the process of baptism. If he doesn’t ever emerge, he never has to be either.
I'm gonna play this game again and try to pay even more attention. Also, I only ended with around 60 of the 80 voxophones. I need to find the other 20.
This post was edited on 3/28/13 at 2:58 am
Posted on 3/28/13 at 3:00 am to Scruffy
***SPOILERS THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE POST, FOR ALL YOU LOSERS WHO DON'T HAVE TIME TO FINISH A 15+ HOUR GAME IN 2 DAYS***********
You done goofed already. They only had about 10 or so heads vs zero tails on the front, but when he turned around, there was a board on his back end that had 100+ heads and zero tails.
Don't think that's possible. I don't really agree with any of your guesses, but I don't have a legit one of my own either.
And while I agree that the Luteces don't have the same abilities as Elizabeth, I think they've perfected their art.
And one thing that occurred to me hours after completing the game that was probably evident to most: in at least one of the prominent universes, Dewitt was both the leader of the Comstalk folk (obviously, being that he WAS Comstalk) AND the lead of the VOX (would have to have been brought in from another universe by Elizabeth or Lutece, since both can't exist in the same universe). Also, in case you didn't notice (I didn't), but the Lutece twins were the same person from different universes, one in which Lutece became a male, one a female. That's why they complete each other's sentences.
ETA: I also saw a legit reason for her having powers: one of the Luteces (female I think) invented the technology, but when she got her finger cut off, she developed the power. The question is, how did they develop the tech? They may have done it based on studies of the girl. I don't know it off the top of my head, but there's a word for something that exists only because of time travel: i.e I invent something based on something I find, then time travel and leave that technology in the past, then my past self finds the technology and invents the thing. There's no way to know if one of the Luteces developed the technology off of her powers, or she developed the power off of their totally independent technology, or the craziness I just posted.
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Well, considering the small number of times that were checked off on the chalkboard, it would be safe to assume that at that particular moment, they had not encountered the Booker who chose tails.
You done goofed already. They only had about 10 or so heads vs zero tails on the front, but when he turned around, there was a board on his back end that had 100+ heads and zero tails.
quote:
Maybe I am thinking WAAAAAAY too hard about this game
Don't think that's possible. I don't really agree with any of your guesses, but I don't have a legit one of my own either.
And while I agree that the Luteces don't have the same abilities as Elizabeth, I think they've perfected their art.
And one thing that occurred to me hours after completing the game that was probably evident to most: in at least one of the prominent universes, Dewitt was both the leader of the Comstalk folk (obviously, being that he WAS Comstalk) AND the lead of the VOX (would have to have been brought in from another universe by Elizabeth or Lutece, since both can't exist in the same universe). Also, in case you didn't notice (I didn't), but the Lutece twins were the same person from different universes, one in which Lutece became a male, one a female. That's why they complete each other's sentences.
ETA: I also saw a legit reason for her having powers: one of the Luteces (female I think) invented the technology, but when she got her finger cut off, she developed the power. The question is, how did they develop the tech? They may have done it based on studies of the girl. I don't know it off the top of my head, but there's a word for something that exists only because of time travel: i.e I invent something based on something I find, then time travel and leave that technology in the past, then my past self finds the technology and invents the thing. There's no way to know if one of the Luteces developed the technology off of her powers, or she developed the power off of their totally independent technology, or the craziness I just posted.
This post was edited on 3/28/13 at 3:06 am
Posted on 3/28/13 at 3:10 am to CornDogCologne
quote:
inished the game.
feels like my brain is melting, but it is making me re-evaluate every piece of dialogue I heard in the entire game.
kudos to Irrational. it's rare that I devote this much thought to a video game plot.
omg i cant wait to pick it up tomorrow. I had to resist the urge with the impending test in the morning. I have thurs-mon to play Tomb Raider (just in from Gamefly) and bioshock, then I'm off to Panama City Beach to get sooooooo fricked up
Posted on 3/28/13 at 3:17 am to THRILLHO
quote:
***SPOILERS THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE POST, FOR ALL YOU LOSERS WHO DON'T HAVE TIME TO FINISH A 15+ HOUR GAME IN 2 DAYS***********
quote:No, I remember that, but we are dealing with infinities here. Only 110+ situations within an infinite number of instances is such a minuscule number. That allows for the potential for 100+ coin tosses occurring in a row.
You done goofed already. They only had about 10 or so heads vs zero tails on the front, but when he turned around, there was a board on his back end that had 100+ heads and zero tails.
Then again, we are dealing in probabilities here and in the universes they visited, the probabilities of heads occurring over tails could possibly be one of the constants.
quote:I actually didn't catch this. Just never crossed my mind.
but the Lutece twins were the same person from different universes, one in which Lutece became a male, one a female. That's why they complete each other's sentences
quote:As for her powers, what did you make of the multiple dead bodies within the Comstock House? Failed Elizabeths maybe? They did state many times that they wanted to "kill the specimen," indicating that she was replaceable.
ETA: I also saw a legit reason for her having powers: one of the Luteces (female I think) invented the technology, but when she got her finger cut off, she developed the power. The question is, how did they develop the tech? They may have done it based on studies of the girl. I don't know it off the top of my head, but there's a word for something that exists only because of time travel: i.e I invent something based on something I find, then time travel and leave that technology in the past, then my past self finds the technology and invents the thing. There's no way to know if one of the Luteces developed the technology off of her powers, or she developed the power off of their totally independent technology, or the craziness I just posted.
I do agree with the idea that since this Elizabeth technically existed within two universes at the same time, her powers could come from that. The Luteces happened to live within the fabric of the multiverse due to an accident during one of their experiments, if I understood that correctly.
This post was edited on 3/28/13 at 3:22 am
Posted on 3/28/13 at 3:28 am to Scruffy
****SPOILERS YOU frickING countS**********
OK, we're on the same page there, but that still means that, as the Dewitt that you're playing, you happened upon a universe where that actually happened, which is highly unlikely. The game certainly begs for another play through, but I redboxed mine and have shite to do the rest of the week, so I'll be returning it and revisiting the game in a few months.
Missed the multiple dead bodies, but from one of the recordings I picked up, the scientists wanted to kill her because they didn't understand the extent of her powers, but were aware that she could frick up the status quo.
I was under the impression that they were both just very smart and had control of the technology. I didn't catch any sort of experiment accident. The only trouble that I know they faced was Comstalk killing them in one (multiple?) universe because they knew too much and had the ability to change things. Seemed that Lutece(s) from other universes that survived got shite done.
quote:
No, I remember that, but we are dealing with infinities here. Only 110+ situations within an infinite number of instances is such a minuscule number. That allows for the potential for 100+ coin tosses occurring in a row.
OK, we're on the same page there, but that still means that, as the Dewitt that you're playing, you happened upon a universe where that actually happened, which is highly unlikely. The game certainly begs for another play through, but I redboxed mine and have shite to do the rest of the week, so I'll be returning it and revisiting the game in a few months.
quote:
As for her powers, what did you make of the multiple dead bodies within the Comstock House? Failed Elizabeths maybe? They did state many times that they wanted to "kill the specimen," indicating that she was replaceable.
Missed the multiple dead bodies, but from one of the recordings I picked up, the scientists wanted to kill her because they didn't understand the extent of her powers, but were aware that she could frick up the status quo.
quote:
The Luteces happened to live within the fabric of the multiverse due to an accident during one of their experiments, if I understood that correctly.
I was under the impression that they were both just very smart and had control of the technology. I didn't catch any sort of experiment accident. The only trouble that I know they faced was Comstalk killing them in one (multiple?) universe because they knew too much and had the ability to change things. Seemed that Lutece(s) from other universes that survived got shite done.
Posted on 3/28/13 at 3:34 am to THRILLHO
HURRY UP AND FINISH THE GAME SO I CAN STOP TYPING SPOILERS BEFORE I POST
I could have sworn that the scientists said that they could kill Elizabeth, but the problem was that they didn't have the time to start over. I can't really remember though.
I think that was the gist of it.
quote:I remember seeing a bunch of wrapped up bodies next to a furnace in the Comstock house. Didn't really know what to make of it.
Missed the multiple dead bodies, but from one of the recordings I picked up, the scientists wanted to kill her because they didn't understand the extent of her powers, but were aware that she could frick up the status quo.
I could have sworn that the scientists said that they could kill Elizabeth, but the problem was that they didn't have the time to start over. I can't really remember though.
quote:There was one of female Lutece's voxophones which stated that due to an accident they were fragmented amongst the multiverse. Her twin wasn't happy about it, but it allowed them to be together, so she was. His unhappiness resulted in them searching for a way to reverse what had been done.
I was under the impression that they were both just very smart and had control of the technology. I didn't catch any sort of experiment accident. The only trouble that I know they faced was Comstalk killing them in one (multiple?) universe because they knew too much and had the ability to change things. Seemed that Lutece(s) from other universes that survived got shite done.
I think that was the gist of it.
This post was edited on 3/28/13 at 3:35 am
Posted on 3/28/13 at 3:56 am to Scruffy
**** I WANT YOUR SPOILERS, I WANT THEM DEEP INSIDE ME****
**** END SPOILERS*****
**** END SPOILERS*****
Posted on 3/28/13 at 6:28 am to THRILLHO
ahh people are finally beating it
Posted on 3/28/13 at 10:24 am to THRILLHO
What is the replay value for those of you who have beat the game?
Posted on 3/28/13 at 10:27 am to RolandDeschain
I think I am close to the end at 11 hours played. I will play it again, not right away but it will get another run in the future.
Posted on 3/28/13 at 10:38 am to DoUrden
Damn I am no where close to beating it. I haven't gotten to play more than a couple of hours though and I have a bad habit of tweaking graphics and controls a lot trying to find the perfect fit for me.
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