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re: SI's cover, 24 years ago today
Posted on 2/21/13 at 8:44 am to Smoke Green
Posted on 2/21/13 at 8:44 am to Smoke Green
I still have this mag. I bought it at the Union Bldg the day it came out.
I am old.
I am old.
Posted on 2/21/13 at 8:48 am to Smoke Green
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i had forgotten that...didn't even know the story until a few years ago.
Right. It was at a time in college basketball when the shoe wars were just taking off. It was something that they didn't make a public statement over but behind the scenes it was HUGE. Back then, (when I was there) the programs received huge bucks for shoe brands. I'm not sure how its handled now.
Posted on 2/21/13 at 8:48 am to 3xlsugrad
Shaquille oneal and chris Jackson aren't even in the same league in regards LSU basketball.
One is an embarrassment.
Other has a fricking statue in his honor.
Get a clue bro.
One is an embarrassment.
Other has a fricking statue in his honor.
Get a clue bro.
Posted on 2/21/13 at 8:50 am to Smoke Green
such a great player at LSU! I've got this framed at my house. (As are All times LSU has been on cover of SI are framed) csb
One of the only ones who I've seen get a steal run full speed, stop on a dime at the 3 pt line and shoot and drain it, instead of taking it all the way for an easy lay up.
To the guys arguing who was best, I'll just say this.....Its a shame that team of CJ, Shaq, and Vernel, et all didn't make it to the final 4 much less win it all!!
One of the only ones who I've seen get a steal run full speed, stop on a dime at the 3 pt line and shoot and drain it, instead of taking it all the way for an easy lay up.
To the guys arguing who was best, I'll just say this.....Its a shame that team of CJ, Shaq, and Vernel, et all didn't make it to the final 4 much less win it all!!
Posted on 2/21/13 at 8:52 am to 3xlsugrad
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You obviously do not understand the game of basketball. He was fouled to keep him from dunking the ball which was the only thing he could do.
mmm kay. you are not considered the most dominant player in college basketball, the #1 overall draft pick, one of the most dominant centers ever, and one of the top 50 players (actually probably to 10 or 15) players of all time if the only thing you can do is dunk. keep trying
Posted on 2/21/13 at 8:54 am to Smoke Green
Imagine if he played 4 years with the 3 point shot!
Posted on 2/21/13 at 8:55 am to TIGRLEE
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Shaquille oneal and chris Jackson aren't even in the same league in regards LSU basketball.
One is an embarrassment.
Other has a fricking statue in his honor.
Get a clue bro.
Posted on 2/21/13 at 8:58 am to Smoke Green
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Complete moron... Don't stand for the anthem? Take thy crap elsewhere...
Is this not a free country?? It's funny how in other countries people are more concerned about whatever god they worship rather than worshipping a country and/or flag whereas here in America people are obsessed with the flag and 'Merica. I can tell you, when and if you get to heaven God isn't going to give a shite about what flag you flew. He might even look at the human suffering you supported under whatever regime you were under and that goes for everyone; Muslims, Christians, Buddists, etc
Posted on 2/21/13 at 8:59 am to Smoke Green
Thanks a shite-ton for making me feel old this morning.
arse...
arse...
Posted on 2/21/13 at 9:05 am to ruger
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It's funny how in other countries people are more concerned about whatever god they worship rather than worshipping a country and/or flag whereas here in America people are obsessed with the flag and 'Merica.
yea...try going to the Middle East and desecrating one of their flags and see what happens.
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I can tell you, when and if you get to heaven God isn't going to give a shite about what flag you flew.
this isn't about what happens after i die
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He might even look at the human suffering you supported under whatever regime you were under and that goes for everyone; Muslims, Christians, Buddists, etc
take it to the religion board hippie
Posted on 2/21/13 at 9:12 am to Choctaw
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mmm kay. you are not considered the most dominant player in college basketball, the #1 overall draft pick, one of the most dominant centers ever, and one of the top 50 players (actually probably to 10 or 15) players of all time if the only thing you can do is dunk. keep trying
Look, I like Shaq. He's been a great ambassador for LSU throughout his career. Certainly more so than Jackson. And yes, Shaq was dominant at LSU (especially on the defensive end), but I don't necessarily disagree with those saying that all he could do on the offensive end was dunk. That was 90% of his game. He was big, powerful and essentially unguardable because he just banged/slammed into defenders and physically moved them out of the way. Whether it was a foul or not was at the discretion of the officials. Still doesn't mean that he wasn't a great player. But IMO (which won't get you very much), CJ was clearly a better player at LSU
Posted on 2/21/13 at 9:15 am to Choctaw
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take it to the religion board hippie
The funny thing about CJ was that while he was at LSU, he was EXTREMELY religious. I remember reading the book Don't Count Me Out about Dale Brown and it highlighted certain players and was written when CJ was on campus. It described just how religious he was, going so far as to have a crucifix sewn into his socks or something. Being fanatically religious was second nature to Jackson.
In the end, I think the issue people had with CJ when he refused to stand for the flag had far more to do with his change in religion (Christian to Muslim) than it did with politics.
Either way, the guy was simply phenomenal while at LSU and without a doubt the most exciting basketball player we've had since Pistol.
Posted on 2/21/13 at 9:19 am to Alt26
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Look, I like Shaq. He's been a great ambassador for LSU throughout his career. Certainly more so than Jackson. And yes, Shaq was dominant at LSU (especially on the defensive end), but I don't necessarily disagree with those saying that all he could do on the offensive end was dunk. That was 90% of his game. He was big, powerful and essentially unguardable because he just banged/slammed into defenders and physically moved them out of the way. Whether it was a foul or not was at the discretion of the officials. Still doesn't mean that he wasn't a great player. But IMO (which won't get you very much), CJ was clearly a better player at LSU
All true. All it takes is a look at any Shaq highlight reel from his days at LSU and this is obvious. He's as dominant a big man as there ever has been, and wildly athletic...but in no way remotely a complete basketball player. That's not even a shot at him...most big men fall into that category with a few notable exceptions. What CJ could do with a ball was multidimensional and given his size and his Tourettes was even more impressive.
I love Shaq...make no mistake. Cj was simply better.
Posted on 2/21/13 at 9:29 am to Choctaw
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the issue i have with him was that nearly his entire career he would just stay in the locker room during the anthem. but i guess he thought that staying in the locker room wasn't getting him enough attention. and if you really think he only did this because of his beliefs and didn't want the attention then you're f'n naive. he knew exactly what he was doing.
Maybe so. I would have been in high school at the time of the "flag issue", so it's possible that I don't have all of the facts.
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well no shite. and its my freedom to think that he's an America hating a-hole,
I don't disagree.
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but i guess he didn't hate America enough to keep cashing those checks
But he did go play in Turkey for several years after that. So I guess he was ok with leaving America.
Just curious, did he come back? If he did, then yes, he's being pretty hypocritical.
Posted on 2/21/13 at 9:40 am to Choupique19
I support standing for the Anthem; however, I respect his right not to. I'd say it is what makes this country great. The U.S. was founded on the principles of checks and balances, and people like MLK or even Malcolm X are important to positive change occurring. If everyone blindly supported everything about our gov't, we'd be North Korea.
Posted on 2/21/13 at 9:59 am to Smoke Green
had 3 copies autographed while i was at Dale's basketball camp. Gave 1 away, have 2 now as well as 2 autographed Kevin Faulk covers. I used to emulate all his moves on the court.
Posted on 2/21/13 at 10:10 am to Smoke Green
I was at LSU and watched him many times. I can't say that I've seen a college player with his ability since. He made defenders look silly and you were surprised when he didn't hit a shot. Had crazy vert. too.
How in the friggen world did we not win every game with him, Shaq, and Stanley in the lineup?? Brown was a great recruiter...not so much of an X&O coach. The quote from B Knight says it all...
How in the friggen world did we not win every game with him, Shaq, and Stanley in the lineup?? Brown was a great recruiter...not so much of an X&O coach. The quote from B Knight says it all...
Posted on 2/21/13 at 10:15 am to Surv1vor1st
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So you're from the Grove' or Soria City?
No comment.
Posted on 2/21/13 at 10:20 am to 3xlsugrad
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He was in one of my speech classes
I'll go out on a limb and say he failed this class. Yeah, I know. That's mean.
Posted on 2/21/13 at 10:30 am to Choupique19
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He felt strong enough about his beliefs that he was willing to go play oversees over the "flag issue". He wasn't being loud and drawing attention to himself, he was just not standing during the Anthem as he would stay seated and say a prayer to Allah instead. After several games someone in the media noticed it and started asking him about it. Then it became a big story. Not long after that he had trouble picking up with a NBA team, so he played ball in Turkey for a few years. While I don't know his exact feelings on that, I do know that I've never heard him complain about it. To the best of my knowledge he was just fine with playing professional basketball near the Middle East.
I think that === screwing up his NBA career
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