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re: LHSAA--Anybody heard any rumors about the LHSAA Executive Director's job?
Posted on 1/23/13 at 1:23 pm to choupiquesushi
Posted on 1/23/13 at 1:23 pm to choupiquesushi
the fact is, if Curtis would have requested up to 5A, they would have been put in a district.
it didn't necessarily have to be the Catholic League.
geographically they would have fit in better with the Jefferson Parish district, but they would have been in one.
it didn't necessarily have to be the Catholic League.
geographically they would have fit in better with the Jefferson Parish district, but they would have been in one.
Posted on 1/23/13 at 1:44 pm to supatigah
You did a good job with it, but I was in a meeting with one of Walker's coaches & ADs yesterday and they said the all but two Orleans Parish HS would be in the select bracket. They were hoping that when the break aways that the Jefferson Parish westbank public schools, would be allowed to come with them.
Posted on 1/23/13 at 1:51 pm to TigerintheNO
Rapides Parish is Open Enrollment and Pineville in 5A is also a Magnet School.
Washington Marion, Glen Oaks and Carroll are all Magnet as well that I know of.
Washington Marion, Glen Oaks and Carroll are all Magnet as well that I know of.
This post was edited on 1/23/13 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 1/23/13 at 2:01 pm to TigerintheNO
the issue with the public select schools in a new association is their school board may not allow it. Having a magnet school in the new association and an under performing inner city school in the old association creates a nightmare political scenario for a school board.
I see a vote on friday of the all classes all sports split failing
I see a vote on friday of the all classes, football only split playoffs passing
this sends a message to the privates that they are systematically being marginalized. That is an untenable situation and will create a groundswell of sentiment to create a separate path. Where that path goes, who is on the path and when it happens has yet to be determined but I dont think it will be good for the have-nots in the association
I see a vote on friday of the all classes all sports split failing
I see a vote on friday of the all classes, football only split playoffs passing
this sends a message to the privates that they are systematically being marginalized. That is an untenable situation and will create a groundswell of sentiment to create a separate path. Where that path goes, who is on the path and when it happens has yet to be determined but I dont think it will be good for the have-nots in the association
Posted on 1/23/13 at 2:01 pm to LABred08
The only thing good about this vote passing is it would place Evangel and John Curtis with the big dogs which would be fun to watch. Parkview Baptist too.
Posted on 1/23/13 at 3:06 pm to TigerintheNO
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They were hoping that when the break aways that the Jefferson Parish westbank public schools, would be allowed to come with them.
and so it begins...
Posted on 1/24/13 at 10:40 am to Choupique19
Anyone know what time the vote is tomorrow?
Posted on 1/24/13 at 10:48 am to GeorgeTheGreek
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Anyone know what time the vote is tomorrow?
Probably all damn day. There is no way that it doesn't take a bunch of people giving their opinions, etc. I think we will get an idea of how 18 will go based on what they vote on for 8. It's going to be a long day tomorrow. Anyone know of people giving live updates? Geauxpreps had a guy sit in on the classification meeting.
Posted on 1/24/13 at 10:49 am to GhostofJackson
I'm hoping LHSAA updates their twitter, but i doubt it.
Posted on 1/24/13 at 10:52 am to GeorgeTheGreek
look for a compromise to appear.... to appease the natives.. but it will get shot down by... the root of the problem.
Posted on 1/24/13 at 11:02 am to supatigah
I like Foote's take on that. It's a South Park take. Carry it to its logical end to show how stupid people are being right now.
Sadly, I don't think many of the people voting on this will see the satire in his writing, even after he pointed out that he doesn't want a split.
Sadly, I don't think many of the people voting on this will see the satire in his writing, even after he pointed out that he doesn't want a split.
Posted on 1/24/13 at 11:03 am to supatigah
funny thing he talks about unfair advantages of privates.. yet sites an example of a PUBLIC school recruiting....
the problem is the rules....and lack of even enforcement.
the problem is the rules....and lack of even enforcement.
Posted on 1/24/13 at 11:05 am to choupiquesushi
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funny thing he talks about unfair advantages of privates.. yet sites an example of a PUBLIC school recruiting
I think he did this to illustrate the absurdity of the people asking for a split.
Maybe I'm giving him too much credit, but I've always found him to be well informed on HS sports.
Posted on 1/24/13 at 11:23 am to ProjectP2294
That is exactly correct
He is pointing out the absurdity
The iota principal is butt hurt because they had a great football program in the 90s, they had idiots there as coaches that ruined it and now their best football players want to go to notre dame and they can't stand it. They kicked out a kid recently, the kid transferred to notre dame, the iota principal filed a complaint and they had a hearing.
He is pointing out the absurdity
The iota principal is butt hurt because they had a great football program in the 90s, they had idiots there as coaches that ruined it and now their best football players want to go to notre dame and they can't stand it. They kicked out a kid recently, the kid transferred to notre dame, the iota principal filed a complaint and they had a hearing.
Posted on 1/24/13 at 11:24 am to choupiquesushi
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yet sites an example of a PUBLIC school recruiting
awwwwwww public school recruits all the time, just find an in district address and there you go.
not gonna put any school names out there *coughcentraldutchtown*
Posted on 1/24/13 at 11:53 am to Modern
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From Curtis to Karr, concerns about fair playing field continue
Posted by: Ed Daniels in Prep Sports on Nov 07, 2012
'PLAYING UP' PART OF ONGOING DEBATE
The calls began Tuesday and continued into Wednesday morning. When I answered, it went like this.
"Hey, Ed. What is J.T. gonna do?"
Some high school coaches and administrators were hoping they could avoid two football seasons in the same classification as John Curtis Christian school.
I heard from one school that actually "desired" to be in the same class as Curtis.
But that was a rarity indeed.
Ultimately, Curtis informed the LHSAA it would compete the next two seasons in Class 3A moments before the noon deadline.
For years, when I heard complaints about the alleged unlevel playing field in Louisiana high school football, those gripes centered around Curtis and Evangel.
There was relative quiet from the public schools when Curtis and Evangel both competed in class 2A.
In 5A, West Monroe was still dominant. In 4A, Neville and Franklinton were two of the powerhouses.
But now there is a new school that is in the crosshairs of this debate.
Edna Karr, welcome to the spotlight. The Cougars are now churning out Division I stars and Superdome Classic appearances.
Quarterback Munchie Legaux is a star at the University of Cincinnati. The current Karr quarterback, Speedy Noil, is being recruited by many BCS schools including LSU.
Karr's best player is a defensive end. His name is Gerald Willis. He is listed as 6-foot-3, 255 pounds. In week 10 against O Perry Walker, Willis made a one-handed interception of a screen pass and then outraced the opposing offensive skill players to the end zone.
Frankly, I didn't hear too much complaining about Karr, until the last two years. That's when the Cougars made back-to-back trips to the state 4A championship game.
Now, I am hearing that Karr has an unfair advantage as a member of the Algiers Charter schools.
Those schools have open enrollment. If you live in the city of New Orleans, you can attend Edna Karr.
Indeed, Karr has a lot going for it. Head coach Jabbar Juluke is an experienced head coach who plays top flight competition. He has turned out a lot of football players that seem to have no problem making good grades and good test scores.
Two of his recent troops are LSU offensive lineman Derek Edinburgh and Tulane defensive back Shakiel Smith.
At the end of this school year, defensive back Collin Early could be headed to the Ivy League.
As for "fairness," I really don't know how to legislate it.
Maybe the right move is to drop attendance zones completely.
If you live in Orleans, go to school anywhere in the parish. Same for Jefferson, St Tammany, and so forth.
I don't have all the answers. But a split playoff certainly isn't it.
It would be bad for Louisiana high school football.
And, as an athletic director told me Wednesday in Baton Rouge, the public schools should play nice. Soon, they will be in the minority.
From Curtis to Karr, concerns about fair playing field continue
Posted by: Ed Daniels in Prep Sports on Nov 07, 2012
'PLAYING UP' PART OF ONGOING DEBATE
The calls began Tuesday and continued into Wednesday morning. When I answered, it went like this.
"Hey, Ed. What is J.T. gonna do?"
Some high school coaches and administrators were hoping they could avoid two football seasons in the same classification as John Curtis Christian school.
I heard from one school that actually "desired" to be in the same class as Curtis.
But that was a rarity indeed.
Ultimately, Curtis informed the LHSAA it would compete the next two seasons in Class 3A moments before the noon deadline.
For years, when I heard complaints about the alleged unlevel playing field in Louisiana high school football, those gripes centered around Curtis and Evangel.
There was relative quiet from the public schools when Curtis and Evangel both competed in class 2A.
In 5A, West Monroe was still dominant. In 4A, Neville and Franklinton were two of the powerhouses.
But now there is a new school that is in the crosshairs of this debate.
Edna Karr, welcome to the spotlight. The Cougars are now churning out Division I stars and Superdome Classic appearances.
Quarterback Munchie Legaux is a star at the University of Cincinnati. The current Karr quarterback, Speedy Noil, is being recruited by many BCS schools including LSU.
Karr's best player is a defensive end. His name is Gerald Willis. He is listed as 6-foot-3, 255 pounds. In week 10 against O Perry Walker, Willis made a one-handed interception of a screen pass and then outraced the opposing offensive skill players to the end zone.
Frankly, I didn't hear too much complaining about Karr, until the last two years. That's when the Cougars made back-to-back trips to the state 4A championship game.
Now, I am hearing that Karr has an unfair advantage as a member of the Algiers Charter schools.
Those schools have open enrollment. If you live in the city of New Orleans, you can attend Edna Karr.
Indeed, Karr has a lot going for it. Head coach Jabbar Juluke is an experienced head coach who plays top flight competition. He has turned out a lot of football players that seem to have no problem making good grades and good test scores.
Two of his recent troops are LSU offensive lineman Derek Edinburgh and Tulane defensive back Shakiel Smith.
At the end of this school year, defensive back Collin Early could be headed to the Ivy League.
As for "fairness," I really don't know how to legislate it.
Maybe the right move is to drop attendance zones completely.
If you live in Orleans, go to school anywhere in the parish. Same for Jefferson, St Tammany, and so forth.
I don't have all the answers. But a split playoff certainly isn't it.
It would be bad for Louisiana high school football.
And, as an athletic director told me Wednesday in Baton Rouge, the public schools should play nice. Soon, they will be in the minority.
Posted on 1/24/13 at 12:08 pm to supatigah
Nonselect vs. select sparks plenty debate at LHSAA meeting
Select school administrators discuss options for dividing LHSAA
LHSAA considers dividing schools between select, nonselect for playoffs
Select school administrators discuss options for dividing LHSAA
LHSAA considers dividing schools between select, nonselect for playoffs
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Key differences
The South Beauregard plan calls for separate championships in football and seven other sports: baseball, basketball, cross country, soccer, softball and outdoor track and field and volleyball.
This means select and non-select schools will continue to compete against each other in swimming, gymnastics, bowling, wrestling, powerlifting, tennis, indoor track and golf for LHSAA titles. The football-only proposal makes no provision for other sports.
The proposals differ on the percentage of students a dual-curriculum school must draw from outside its attendance zone in order to be considered select.
The South Beauregard proposal calls for 33 percent. The football-only proposal calls for 25 percent. Henderson has told LHSAA principals his staff does not have dual-curriculum percentages and would have to obtain them.
Because the South Beauregard proposal was tabled last year, a vote will be required to get it considered. The football only proposal is in line for consideration.
By the numbers
The 92-year-old LHSAA has 388 member schools. Of that group, there are 90 private schools, 19 charter schools, eight full magnet schools, three lab schools and 21 schools with magnet components that are dual-curriculum schools. Private schools make up 20.6 percent of the membership. Factoring in the maximum number of dual-curriculum schools makes the possible select percent 30.9.
The LHSAA agenda has breakdowns on where schools would fall in the select/nonselect categories. Several schools are shaded in gray, noting their status as dual-curriculum schools that could be either select or nonselect.
Also shaded in gray are Louisiana Recovery School District members coded as nonselect schools, noting those schools could be converted into charter schools. That list of five schools includes Sarah Reed-New Orleans, and four schools in the BR area: Capitol, Istrouma, Pointe Coupee Central and St. Helena Central.
Henderson said he has been told different things about the status of New Orleans schools, Eleanor McMain and McDonogh 35. Are they full magnet schools or dual curriculum? That’s just one question that must be answered.
Posted on 1/24/13 at 12:15 pm to supatigah
It's hilarious to me that they are trying to go forward with this without knowing even some of the unintended consequences.
They don't even know which schools will go where, but some people's heads are so far up their own asses they still think this is a godo idea.
They don't even know which schools will go where, but some people's heads are so far up their own asses they still think this is a godo idea.
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