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re: Class of '96: Jeter, Kobe, Tiger & Ray Lewis
Posted on 1/8/13 at 7:31 pm to SaintCajun
Posted on 1/8/13 at 7:31 pm to SaintCajun
You really can't be serious. How many MVP's does Jeter have? If it's fewer than 10, give it up.
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Posted on 1/8/13 at 7:35 pm to lsugolf1105
Oh and doesn't Bernie Williams have some postseason records too? 
Posted on 1/8/13 at 8:03 pm to lsugolf1105
quote:
do you really think kobe has been more successful than tiger? if so, care to share any facts that support this?
He works out at the same gym as a guy who knows this to be a fact.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 8:15 pm to SaintCajun
quote:
I said jeter was the most successful because of what he has accomplished in a sport that is the statistically hardest to compete in
In a given tournament, golfers have to outplay roughly 143 other golfers to win said tournament. Tiger wins just under 30% of the time. Jeter is not more successful than Tiger.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 8:25 pm to Lester Earl
I'd go
Tiger
Kobe
Lewis
Jeter
#1 and #2 are no brainers.
I'd take Lewis over Jeter simply because he has a better case as being the best or closer to the best, to ever play at his position than Jeter Imo.
Tiger
Kobe
Lewis
Jeter
#1 and #2 are no brainers.
I'd take Lewis over Jeter simply because he has a better case as being the best or closer to the best, to ever play at his position than Jeter Imo.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 8:33 pm to theunknownknight
quote:
Kobe has influenced his sport longer.
Tiger has been a side show for a few years now.
Kobe
this is why you'd never be an admin or even in the conversation.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 8:47 pm to KingofthePoint
quote:
In a given tournament, golfers have to outplay roughly 143 other golfers to win said tournament. Tiger wins just under 30% of the time. Jeter is not more successful than Tiger.
Jeter has 5 World Series titles in 18 years, 27.7%, tiger woods winning percentage is 27.3%
Posted on 1/8/13 at 9:01 pm to SaintCajun
quote:
Jeter has 5 World Series titles in 18 years, 27.7%, tiger woods winning percentage is 27.3%
Man that Jeter is a beast, Not only does he pitch, but he also catches and plays the other 7 positions in the field, while batting 1-9 in the order. Does he implement the ghost runner method of keeping track where he is on base?
Winning a team based title =/= winning an individual title.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 9:15 pm to texastiger38
I know it doesn't equal and I'm not the one who brought up winning %, I was just showing that his is higher. Also it is a lot harder to have success in team sports than it is in an individual sport.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 9:24 pm to SaintCajun
quote:
Also it is a lot harder to have success in team sports than it is in an individual sport.
While I agree with this, it's laughable to think that Jeter was the sole reason why his teams one 5 championships
ETA: Not to mention he was on probably the best possible team to be successful on.
This post was edited on 1/8/13 at 9:25 pm
Posted on 1/8/13 at 9:29 pm to texastiger38
Maybe not the sole reason but he was a big reason. Before he got there the last time the Yankees won a World Series was 1978 and their last AL pennant before he got there was 1981
Posted on 1/8/13 at 9:34 pm to texastiger38
I think using the "he did it by himself" argument is kind of a bs argument. If that's the case, every golfer to win a major is better than anyone who played a team sport because they did it by themselves.
Not saying that Tiger isn't the best of the four listed, just the argument doesn't apply
Not saying that Tiger isn't the best of the four listed, just the argument doesn't apply
Posted on 1/8/13 at 9:43 pm to DA Shaker
quote:
I think using the "he did it by himself" argument is kind of a bs argument. If that's the case, every golfer to win a major is better than anyone who played a team sport because they did it by themselves. Not saying that Tiger isn't the best of the four listed, just the argument doesn't apply
Which is why you have to compare their individual accomplishments
Posted on 1/8/13 at 9:55 pm to jimithing11
Success:
Tiger
(Huge gap)
Kobe
(Littler gap)
Lewis
(Small gap)
Jeter
Influence:
Tiger
(Huge gap)
Kobe
(Small gap)
Jeter
(Bigger gap)
Lewis
Tiger
(Huge gap)
Kobe
(Littler gap)
Lewis
(Small gap)
Jeter
Influence:
Tiger
(Huge gap)
Kobe
(Small gap)
Jeter
(Bigger gap)
Lewis
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