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re: Why does most people on this board hate on Nintendo?

Posted on 12/28/12 at 1:41 pm to
Posted by BaddestAndvari
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Posted on 12/28/12 at 1:41 pm to
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I play consoles for their exclusives


I know more people that buy consoles for this

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and huge multiplayer online services.


than this..

With the PC market booming, why would you want to pay for an online service that comes free with your computer?!

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Nintendo has easily the worst of both.


Nintendo has easily the best of exclusives, and this is coming from someone that sold his wii, but Nintendo still has the best exclusives, and it's not even close.
Posted by BaddestAndvari
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Posted on 12/28/12 at 1:42 pm to
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Nintendo has fewer critically acclaimed exclusives then Microsoft or Sony

Nintendo has WAY more.


When I saw that.. i was like.. SERIOUSLY!?!?!?!?!?!
Posted by BaddestAndvari
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Posted on 12/28/12 at 1:44 pm to
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ou realize the Vita is almost a dead console at this point?


You know they said the same thing about the 3DS right?

The VITA is far from dead, just give it time..

In just the last 2 weeks I have gotten 20 friend request from people on "Near" that got VITAs for Christmas or around that time. Sales were MUCH better than Sony had ever expected as well.
Posted by oauron
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Posted on 12/28/12 at 1:46 pm to
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Why would you seriously spend money on the WiiU at this point? I mean its cpu is 3 wii processors taped together, pretty much precluding it from playing actual next generation titles and next gen multiplats. It has trouble with current gen multiplats.



I'd hope people would learn from early this generation that it takes time for developers to optimize a console. Remember the PS3 ports of 360 games? They were horrendous. You'll see dramatic increases in performance and visuals as developers learn how to get more out of the hardware.

The Wii U is handicapped though by some of the design choices and that was a poor management decision on the internals.

I won't even justify the other bits with a response.
This post was edited on 12/28/12 at 1:47 pm
Posted by oauron
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Posted on 12/28/12 at 1:47 pm to
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Mistwalker and Monolith Soft are first party developers for Nintendo now


Mistwalker is not. They were commissioned to make The Last Story. That is all.
Posted by LSUSaintsHornets
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Posted on 12/28/12 at 1:49 pm to
So you call out some retarded kinect game for being prepackaged then talk about Mario Kart wii The only games that sell on wii are prepackaged or have Mario in the title, and sometimes both.
Posted by BaddestAndvari
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Posted on 12/28/12 at 1:50 pm to
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Mistwalker is not. They were commissioned to make The Last Story. That is all.


oh.. did The Last Story sell well? I haven't heard the news, I was slightly angry about the direction of MW, they created the best RPG of gen 7, then jumped into the handheld market.. and then created a non-turn base RPG on their "comeback tour," was slightly depressing.
Posted by oauron
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Posted on 12/28/12 at 1:51 pm to
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You realize the Vita is almost a dead console at this point? It's sad, because it's my favorite handheld, but there is no monetary interest for devs to make AAA games for it


Pretty sure Assassin's Creed Liberation has been a great success and is proof that is developers put out big titles, it will be well-received. Even the Call of Duty for Vita has sold moderately well and it's the worst reviewed game on the platform.

Bioshock Vita is an odd case though. Take 2 pretty much wants Sony to not only foot the bill but do the development themselves. Vita development also is not very expensive. You generally need to sell less than half of PS3/360 game to break even.
Posted by oauron
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Posted on 12/28/12 at 1:52 pm to
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So you call out some retarded kinect game for being prepackaged then talk about Mario Kart wii The only games that sell on wii are prepackaged or have Mario in the title, and sometimes both.



The games that have sold really well on the Wii are first party and social games. Just Dance for Wii is a monster and will probably pay for several new projects.

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oh.. did The Last Story sell well?


Decently. Worse than Blue Dragon ( ) and Lost Odyssey.
This post was edited on 12/28/12 at 1:54 pm
Posted by Eyothrie
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Posted on 12/28/12 at 1:54 pm to
I can't wait to see what Monolithsoft has been working on..Xenoblade was fantastic.
Posted by BaddestAndvari
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Posted on 12/28/12 at 1:59 pm to
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So you call out some retarded kinect game for being prepackaged then talk about Mario Kart wii The only games that sell on wii are prepackaged or have Mario in the title, and sometimes both.


You are talking like Nintendo has the worst lineup of exclusives, then write off the sales of said exclusives because of their game title? I don't get it, does Nintendo have the best exclusives, or don't they!?! You make 0 sense!?

Mario Kart Wii (32.44 million)
New Super Mario Bros. Wii (26.26 million)
Super Smash Bros. Brawl (10.79 million)
Super Mario Galaxy (10.68 million)
Mario Party 8 (7.6 million)
Super Mario Galaxy 2 (6.36 million)
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (5.82 million)
Donkey Kong Country Returns (4.98 million)
The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword (3.52 million)
Super Paper Mario (2.28 million)
Disney Epic Mickey (2 million)
Monster Hunter Tri (1.9 million)
Punch-Out!! (1.86 million)
Mario Strikers Charged (1.77 million)
Resident Evil: The Umbrella Chronicles (1.2 million)
Red Steel (1 million)
MadWorld (700,000)
No More Heroes (500,000) - indie game, made millions
No More Heroes 2 (300,000) - same

Yup, let's just ignore those exclusives.. they aren't worth mentioning anyways.
Posted by LSUSaintsHornets
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Posted on 12/28/12 at 2:04 pm to
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When I saw that.. i was like.. SERIOUSLY!?!?!?!?!?!



Games over 90 on metacritic
PS3
45
Xbox 360
50
Wii
14

Exclusives over 90
PS3
11
Xbox 360
9
Wii
7


Posted by LSUSaintsHornets
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Posted on 12/28/12 at 2:09 pm to
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You are talking like Nintendo has the worst lineup of exclusives

They do have the worst lineup of exclusives, and the worst lineup of games in general.
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write off the sales of said exclusives because of their game title

Mario games or prepackaged games are the only ones that sell well, period. Most of those Mario games aren't even particularly good they just have the most name recognition of any video game character going for them.
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I don't get it, does Nintendo have the best exclusives, or don't they!

Not even close.
Posted by LSUSaintsHornets
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Posted on 12/28/12 at 2:11 pm to
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Yup, let's just ignore those exclusives.. they aren't worth mentioning anyways

Yes, mario party 8 is not worth mentioning, at all. Red steel was critically panned and as the 3rd party killer app sold 1 million units. fricking zelda couldn't outsell any gears of war game with a vastly larger user base.
Posted by The Dudes Rug
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Posted on 12/28/12 at 2:11 pm to
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Most of those Mario games aren't even particularly good

Posted by LSUSaintsHornets
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Posted on 12/28/12 at 2:16 pm to
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I'd hope people would learn from early this generation that it takes time for developers to optimize a console.

It's hardly an optimization issue at this point. The Wii U processor is worse than the processor of a 7 year-old game console. Devs are openly complaining that the processor is shite. The GPU is better than the PS3 or 360 offerings but the system as a whole can hope to match or very slightly exceed this gen's graphical fidelity.
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You'll see dramatic increases in performance and visuals as developers learn how to get more out of the hardware.

Not before the next generation has started and has made the Wii U outclassed again.
This post was edited on 12/28/12 at 2:17 pm
Posted by oauron
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Posted on 12/28/12 at 2:18 pm to
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When I saw that.. i was like.. SERIOUSLY!?!?!?!?!?!



Critically acclaimed means review scores, not sales wise. I don't think anyone really wants to argue Wii vs Ps3 and 360. The HD twins continue to get new titles and you can't objectively consider the Wiis lineup better.
Posted by The Dudes Rug
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Posted on 12/28/12 at 2:20 pm to
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LSUSaintsHornets

I bet you love some COD.
Posted by oauron
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Posted on 12/28/12 at 2:20 pm to
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It's hardly an optimization issue at this point.


But I think it is. You had people doing the same with the PS3 since it only has 256MB of dedicated RAM (512MB shared). People got around it.
Posted by LSUSaintsHornets
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Posted on 12/28/12 at 2:21 pm to
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I bet you love some COD.

My sig is "God's gift to COD". It's a pretty safe bet.
This post was edited on 12/28/12 at 2:21 pm
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