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re: Official AR-15 thread

Posted on 7/26/13 at 11:12 am to
Posted by chickman1313
Mandeville
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Posted on 7/26/13 at 11:12 am to
quote:

1860pissed


Posted by Propagandalf
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 7/26/13 at 11:16 am to
quote:

but I went cheap and bought a DPMS lower. I wanna upgrade the lower to a Noveske, DD, etc.


The DPMS lower will perform as good as Noveske and DD, unless buying a rollmark is that important to you, I'd leave it be.
Posted by okietiger
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Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 7/26/13 at 11:17 am to
Think so?
Posted by Crawdaddy
Slidell. The jewel of Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
18420 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 11:21 am to
Magpull on PSA lower in flat dark earth for 299


Machined from Aluminum Forgings 7075-T6
Hardcoat Anodizing: MIL-A-8625F, Type III, Class 2
Milspec Receiver Extension
Magpul MOE Stock
Magpul MOE Polymer Trigger Guard
Magpul MOE Pistol Grip
Staked M4 Lock Nut
USGI H Buffer (1 USGI Tungsten, 2 Steel)
Un-notched Hammer compatible with 9mm use
Caliber: Multi
This post was edited on 7/26/13 at 11:24 am
Posted by Soul Gleaux
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2012
4028 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 11:23 am to
quote:

when it comes to furniture for your AR, where should I look to find some olive drab stuff?


Most of mine is Magpul
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66485 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 11:29 am to
quote:

okietiger


get a quality lower
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
19730 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 11:30 am to
nice mega
Posted by okietiger
Chelsea F.C. Fan
Member since Oct 2005
41001 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 11:42 am to
quote:

get a quality lower


That's what I'm thinking...
Posted by Soul Gleaux
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2012
4028 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 11:44 am to
LMT and BCM complete lowers will pop up from time to time. Never seen a Noveske or DD.

Rainier has an LMT with the SOPMOD in stock. Really nice lower, my brother has one. The SOPMOD is one of my favorite stocks. LINK
Or in FDE LINK
This post was edited on 7/26/13 at 11:51 am
Posted by LSUmakemewanna
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2010
1733 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 11:51 am to
Yes. A lower is a lower. They are all just about made from the same aluminum. All they do is house a bunch of parts.
Posted by Propagandalf
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2010
2528 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

get a quality lower


Carson, please explain what makes a quality lower. Lowers, for the most part, are a commodity. If they are in spec there is little to no difference between 2 brands that is not purely cosmetic. I wouldn't be surprised if Noveske and DPMS even use some of the same exact forgings.

Carson, tell me what makes the Noveske or DD lower better than the DPMS? Excluding personal preferences on cosmetics.

okietiger, You should get a Noveske and immediately ship me that piece of shite DPMS lower so I can dispose of it properly.
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
19730 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 12:11 pm to
Remember that PSA deal from a couple weeks ago? Well they made it better.

Rifle and Aimpoint PRO for $999. LINK
Posted by LSUmakemewanna
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2010
1733 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 12:17 pm to
F'ing great deal. If I wasn't building one right now, I would be all over this.
Posted by Soul Gleaux
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2012
4028 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 12:19 pm to
Still a great deal, but the upper on that other one was better. Hence the $50 dollar difference.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66485 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 12:55 pm to
quote:

Carson, please explain what makes a quality lower. Lowers, for the most part, are a commodity. If they are in spec there is little to no difference between 2 brands that is not purely cosmetic. I wouldn't be surprised if Noveske and DPMS even use some of the same exact forgings.

Carson, tell me what makes the Noveske or DD lower better than the DPMS? Excluding personal preferences on cosmetics.

okietiger, You should get a Noveske and immediately ship me that piece of shite DPMS lower so I can dispose of it properly.


2 words. resale value.

in my experience, if you ever want to sell a rifle, having a quality lower makes all the difference. you can't have a noveske or DD upper on a dpms lower. that's retarded. the name is important to people, and im not excluding myself. im a brand whore.

Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66485 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 1:02 pm to
quote:

okietiger


buy this

LINK
Posted by Art Vandelay
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Member since Sep 2005
10718 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 4:04 pm to
BCM rocks. Ordered my barrel and upper late last night. Shipped today. I will come back and let y'all know what that blemished upper looks like. From the reviews I optimistic that it will be pretty good and pass as new. If its too bad I will not be putting it on.
Posted by Propagandalf
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2010
2528 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 4:24 pm to
quote:

im a brand whore.


Admitting is the first step. I prefer my ARs not to look like nascars.

I would be willing to make a sizable bet that DPMS holds its value better than Noveske as a percentage of purchased price. I'll even Parlay that with...it is far easier to sell a used $600 rifle than a used $2500 rifle.

Even if the percentages were the same, a 10% loss in value in a DPMS that cost $650 is $65...on a Noveske at $2500 it's $250. The DPMS would have to suffer an almost 40% loss in value from being used to compare to the money lost reselling the Noveske at a 10% decrease. That means you would be selling the DPMS for $400. A $400 DPMS, would get picked up faster than your mom at reggies after 2 appletinis.

So, beside "resell value"...what is an actually legitimate reason Noveske is better than a DPMS, PSA, Spikes, Surplus Ammo, Aero or any other "cheap" lower.


quote:

buy this

LINK


okietiger, you seem new to the AR game and I'm trying to save you from becoming an ARFCOM brand whore. You could build another AR for the price of that lower he linked. Keep the DMPS and pick up another "cheap" lower to build out into something else. Some of us like to see how expensive they can build a rifle. I like to see how good I can build one for the money.
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
19730 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 5:17 pm to
For me it's about having something not a lot of others have. You can go pick up a spikes or DPMS anywhere. You don't see DDs, knights, LMT, OR A Larue etc around that much.

I'm not a huge brand whore but I like having nice things. I probably don't need a new GMC and could get away with an old Chevy but frick it, I like nice shite.
Posted by HTownTigerFan
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2010
261 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 5:26 pm to
Y'all really lumping Spikes in with DPMS?
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