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Posted on 3/23/13 at 7:21 am to Teague
That's awesome.Beautiful Raptor.
Posted on 3/24/13 at 3:48 pm to tidalmouse
This is not the most sporting flight ever, but it's one of the few up close videos I've gotten, so I'm going to post it anyway. Hawkeye was a little slow and lethargic (I think he may need to be dewormed) but this rabbit was a sitting duck.
Slow-Thinking Bunny
Slow-Thinking Bunny
Posted on 3/25/13 at 12:25 am to Bama and Beer
Well this is just amazing, Teague. I knew people did this but I never really knew what all goes into it. Thanks for sharing, made for some super cool reading.
I notice most of the kills are squirrels and rabbits, and you mentioned that some of it is due to area and some of it is due to what Hawkeye views as prey. What about game like pheasant? Do people use raptors for that as well? Seems to me that would be fascinating to see.
(And now I'm gonna run off to google and youtube instead of waiting on a response )
I notice most of the kills are squirrels and rabbits, and you mentioned that some of it is due to area and some of it is due to what Hawkeye views as prey. What about game like pheasant? Do people use raptors for that as well? Seems to me that would be fascinating to see.
(And now I'm gonna run off to google and youtube instead of waiting on a response )
Posted on 3/25/13 at 7:16 am to Matisyeezy
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I notice most of the kills are squirrels and rabbits, and you mentioned that some of it is due to area and some of it is due to what Hawkeye views as prey. What about game like pheasant? Do people use raptors for that as well? Seems to me that would be fascinating to see.
(And now I'm gonna run off to google and youtube instead of waiting on a response )
Well, if you didn't find it on youtube and google, yes some people hunt pheasant. Most game birds and ducks are hunted with goshawks and various falcons. I've seen pheasant and even ducks taken with red tails, but I don't think either is common. Cooper's hawks, sharp-shinned hawks, and sometimes male harris's hawks are used for smaller birds, like quail.
This post was edited on 3/25/13 at 7:17 am
Posted on 3/25/13 at 9:07 am to Teague
I did see some videos on youtube/had some google results that answered my question, but thanks for giving me more info! I found a video of some Brits using falcons on pheasant. Watching them stoop on a flushed pheasant was AMAZING.
Another question -- how would you describe the relationship between the raptor and the handler? I know you've indicated that they aren't pets, and I wouldn't expect them to be, but after a couple of seasons can the handler expect to form a sort of working relationship with the raptor? From what you've described it sounds like it's largely motivated by feeding/regulating food intake. Is that always the case, or in time will the raptor adopt more "domesticated" (for lack of a better word) tendencies where the strict system of diet regulation becomes less critical?
Again, thanks for taking the time to share your hobby, it's incredibly fascinating!
Another question -- how would you describe the relationship between the raptor and the handler? I know you've indicated that they aren't pets, and I wouldn't expect them to be, but after a couple of seasons can the handler expect to form a sort of working relationship with the raptor? From what you've described it sounds like it's largely motivated by feeding/regulating food intake. Is that always the case, or in time will the raptor adopt more "domesticated" (for lack of a better word) tendencies where the strict system of diet regulation becomes less critical?
Again, thanks for taking the time to share your hobby, it's incredibly fascinating!
Posted on 3/25/13 at 9:32 am to Matisyeezy
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Another question -- how would you describe the relationship between the raptor and the handler? I know you've indicated that they aren't pets, and I wouldn't expect them to be, but after a couple of seasons can the handler expect to form a sort of working relationship with the raptor? From what you've described it sounds like it's largely motivated by feeding/regulating food intake. Is that always the case, or in time will the raptor adopt more "domesticated" (for lack of a better word) tendencies where the strict system of diet regulation becomes less critical?
I'd say it's a working relationship.
There's two main categories of falconry bird; imprint and passage.
An imprint is a bird that was taken from the nest at a young age and raised by the falconer. Those birds see you as a parent, and later a mate (as I understand it). I'm only in my second year, and have no experience with these. But, I do think they can be a little more "tame". However, weight management is still very important. A hawk that isn't hungry isn't motivated to hunt, and will respond to your call when he's good and damned ready.
A "passage" bird is one that was trapped in its first year after leaving the nest. This is what I have. These hawks will also tame down, but maybe not quite as much as an imprint. They soon recognize that it pays to stick close to you and watch for fleeing game in the fields. Every one is a little different in how "tame" they'll get, but I assume the longer they're kept the more tame they'll be.
Both types of birds have their pros and cons.
This post was edited on 3/25/13 at 9:35 am
Posted on 3/26/13 at 8:27 am to Teague
Posted on 3/26/13 at 9:24 am to Bama and Beer
Haha, that was a very poor decision by an immature red tail.
Although Hawkeye did snatch a possum out of a tree, he has shown some smarts on at least one occasion. He moved into position near a squirrel nest. I assumed he'd seen movement in it. I shook a vine going up to it, and a 'coon peaked over the edge at me. Hawkeye passed on that opportunity and I was thankful.
On another note, I'm assuming nobody has watched the video I posted of him pummeling a retarded rabbit. I thought for sure some of you sick bastards would get a kick out of that.
Although Hawkeye did snatch a possum out of a tree, he has shown some smarts on at least one occasion. He moved into position near a squirrel nest. I assumed he'd seen movement in it. I shook a vine going up to it, and a 'coon peaked over the edge at me. Hawkeye passed on that opportunity and I was thankful.
On another note, I'm assuming nobody has watched the video I posted of him pummeling a retarded rabbit. I thought for sure some of you sick bastards would get a kick out of that.
Posted on 3/26/13 at 9:25 am to Teague
I seent it and your red writing made me chuckle
Posted on 3/26/13 at 9:32 am to Teague
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I'm assuming nobody has watched the video I posted of him pummeling a retarded rabbit
I saw it
Posted on 4/2/13 at 7:42 pm to Teague
Had to bump this thread because I finally realize how I depict you out there hawkin' :
Rutger Hauer is a badass.
Rutger Hauer is a badass.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 8:30 pm to W
Haha! Ladyhawk was a red tail.
The season ended Sunday. We finished with 32 rabbits and 11 squirrels. Not spectacular, but not bad for two newbies who got started a month late this season.
The season ended Sunday. We finished with 32 rabbits and 11 squirrels. Not spectacular, but not bad for two newbies who got started a month late this season.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 8:39 pm to Teague
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The season ended Sunday. We finished with 32 rabbits and 11 squirrels. Not spectacular, but not bad for two newbies who got started a month late this season.
Remarkably interesting. You've harvested more rabbits than I've ever killed in a season with a shotgun. Squirrels are another story.
I'm glad you knew the Ladyhawke reference.
Now that the season is over what do you do with your bird?
ETA: I read where you plan to keep them, season to season.
Correct?
This post was edited on 4/2/13 at 8:41 pm
Posted on 4/2/13 at 8:54 pm to W
Yep, he's currently being fattened up for the molt. Looking forward to seeing his adult plumage.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 8:55 pm to Teague
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I'm assuming nobody has watched the video I posted of him pummeling a retarded rabbit. I thought for sure some of you sick bastards would get a kick out of that.
I seent it too!
Question, what happens when Hawkeye hits her prey? Is she able to kill it with her talons or do you usually have to finish it off with that stick?
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