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re: What Caused the Trading Card Market to Bust?

Posted on 8/15/12 at 8:25 pm to
Posted by Mr. Tom Morrow
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Posted on 8/15/12 at 8:25 pm to
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Were they worthless in the 80s or just recently? I use to always buy Beckett magazines for the prices each month.


I think around the time he got hurt. The man could have been one of the greatest. And my cards could have been worth a lot of money.
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 8/15/12 at 8:26 pm to
I do miss trading cards with friends. I was never allowed to trade any Jordan cards though.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 8/15/12 at 8:28 pm to
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saturation of the market

Posted by Mr. Tom Morrow
Cosmic Ray's Starlight Cafe
Member since Jun 2012
6847 posts
Posted on 8/15/12 at 8:34 pm to
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I was never allowed to trade any Jordan cards though.


I traded every decent card I had for Bo Jackson cards. I was an idiot.
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
90199 posts
Posted on 8/15/12 at 8:59 pm to
At one point, when I was roughly 14, I had both the '86 Fleer complete basketball set along with a Nolan Ryan rookie card.

FML...
Posted by vodkacop
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2008
7882 posts
Posted on 8/15/12 at 9:04 pm to
The dealer i knew when i was in the navy, a friend if mine who was from ohio and had a card shop there, told me that topps pretty much killed the market with baseball cards back sometime in the late 80's when they over produced those ugly wooden border ones. Of course it was the ones i had most of. But i always held on to my barry sanders rookie,pissed me off when he retired lol.
Posted by Mr. Tom Morrow
Cosmic Ray's Starlight Cafe
Member since Jun 2012
6847 posts
Posted on 8/15/12 at 9:25 pm to
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At one point, when I was roughly 14, I had both the '86 Fleer complete basketball set along with a Nolan Ryan rookie card.


I would kick my younger self if I had a time machine. All those cards from Jordan to Griffey Jr.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 8/15/12 at 9:35 pm to
You put all your eggs in the Bo Jacksoni basket ey?

He's one of my favorite athletes of all time though so I ain't gonna hate.



I still collect cards. I try to do as much vintage as possible because they aren't losing value like all the 80's and 90's cards. I did a ton of collecting as a kid and built up a massive collection but only a 10th of it ending up being worth anything. Ebay, 50 bazillion different sets each year, steroids for 80's-90's baseball cards and card grading made collecting not as fun/market drop. I sold a ton of my cards at a garage sell not too long ago, made about $600 which was more than I thought I would get. I had about 50 complete sets from the 80's and 90's. If I buy new I try to stay with the classic brands, mainly Bowman, Topps, Upper Deck or something. Mainly only RC's and Game Used/Autos if it's new.


What's yalls best cards? I got a few that I would never get rid of that I would want to give my kids. Roger Maris RC, 52(I think) Honus Wagner. A bunch of cards from the 50's with $100 Beckett prices, which means nothing. Thurman Munson RC, 2nd year Nolan Ryan, 86 Topps football complete set (Jerry Rice, Steve Young ect RC's).

I like talking baseball cards
Posted by Mr. Tom Morrow
Cosmic Ray's Starlight Cafe
Member since Jun 2012
6847 posts
Posted on 8/15/12 at 9:43 pm to
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You put all your eggs in the Bo Jacksoni basket ey?


Lock stock and barrel. I'm not getting rid of them on the off chance they suddenly gain value.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
34828 posts
Posted on 8/15/12 at 9:58 pm to
O no keep them bad boys. Seems like his rookie is worth almost as much as McGwire and Bonds nowadays.

Off topic side note: Bo's autobiography is pretty awesome. Dick Schaap helped him write it. When ESPN did the sportcentury 100 greatest athletes list, Dick Schaap voted Bo Jackson in the top 3.
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10184 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 12:06 am to
My favorite card is a Dan Marino 84 tops rookie.

I have a ton of Bo Jackson as well the black and white with the football pads and bat is my all time favorite.

I must have 25 Shaquille O'Neal Upper Deck rookies. Not worth a damn thing.
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
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Posted on 8/16/12 at 12:32 am to


Posted by DocBugbear
Arlington, Texas
Member since Mar 2008
7969 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 4:24 am to
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Two things:

1) You had Topps and Fleer, then like 40 other card companies jumped in and started releasing sets every 6 months.

2) Due to that, people stopped giving a shite. It was cool to have one or two different kind of cards once a year - it blew to have 10 cards of one guy every six months.


This is a good explanation, but not quite the full story. I owned a comic book and sports card store in the 1990's. When people were getting cards to collect them, it made a stable market. But once the cards started having value it became a speculators market where people were buying cards to try to make a quick buck. Once people started collecting them for the money rather than for their own sake there was nothing to support the prices and the market collapsed like a house of cards (pun intended).

On a side note, magic cards were awesome! It was like selling crack to junkies! Easy money!
Posted by miamitiger
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/16/12 at 7:54 am to
espn hates lsu
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73181 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 8:01 am to
Don West going off the air is what single handedly brought down the whole market

FACT!

Posted by vodkacop
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2008
7882 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 8:11 am to
So whats the best baseball set to collect yearly? Also when a player is drafted, is that their rookie year or is it when they get called up to the majors? How about when a player gets called up because another player is hurt for 3 games, then, gets sent back down? lol shite is just confusing to me gentlemen.
Posted by Telephone Tough Guy
Member since Feb 2008
2083 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 8:27 am to
The market was flooded. Same thing happened to porn.
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19566 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 8:39 am to
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So whats the best baseball set to collect yearly?


Topps, as it is the only one that is produced annually, and has been for years.

quote:

Also when a player is drafted, is that their rookie year or is it when they get called up to the majors? How about when a player gets called up because another player is hurt for 3 games, then, gets sent back down?


MLBPA supposedly fixed this a few years back, but they still allow Topps to produce cards of any player from the draft on up under the Bowman label. This absolutely destroys demand when a guy makes a splash (i.e. Trout/Harper/Darvish this year) because they already have 3-4 years worth of cards on the market, and Topps/MLBPA is either too greedy, or too stupid to fix it.

The last BIG year for baseball cards was 2001, driven by demand for Pujols and Ichiro who (SURPRISE) had no mainstream cards produced before 2001, so everyone was clamoring to get them out of packs.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41299 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 8:45 am to
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Also when a player is drafted, is that their rookie year or is it when they get called up to the majors? How about when a player gets called up because another player is hurt for 3 games, then, gets sent back down? lol shite is just confusing to me gentlemen.


His rookie card is usually his 1st card.

As far as ROY, A player shall be considered a rookie unless, during a previous season or seasons, he has (a) exceeded 130 at-bats or 50 innings pitched in the Major Leagues; or (b) accumulated more than 45 days on the active roster of a Major League club or clubs during the period of 25-player limit
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Member since Feb 2007
103317 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 9:33 am to
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Upper Deck was the shark jumping moment.


THIS! hologram bullcrap.
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