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Hargrove:" 'Bobby, give me my money,' was not my voice"
Posted on 6/19/12 at 11:34 am
Posted on 6/19/12 at 11:34 am
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Adam Schefter ?@AdamSchefter
DT Anthony Hargrove will speak today at 3 pm ouside NFL offices. "He has some important information to share," said his agent Phil Williams.
This post was edited on 6/19/12 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 6/19/12 at 11:37 am to NorthshoreTiger76
"The NFL Mafia held my family at gun point and coerced my 'confession'".
Posted on 6/19/12 at 11:44 am to Chad504boy
He might pull a "Frank Pintangali"
"I never knew anything about that"
"I never knew anything about that"
This post was edited on 6/19/12 at 11:47 am
Posted on 6/19/12 at 11:47 am to Chad504boy
He's going to be on Dancing With The Stars.
Posted on 6/19/12 at 11:49 am to sicboy
quote:A+
He's going to be on Dancing With The Stars.
Posted on 6/19/12 at 11:51 am to sicboy
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He's going to be on Dancing With The Stars.
he's got evidence to implicate drew brees?
Posted on 6/19/12 at 11:52 am to shel311
"I was asking Bobby to pay me my money from my investments in Joe Horn BBQ Sauce"
Posted on 6/19/12 at 12:06 pm to stapuffmarshy
quote:
Message Posted by stapuffmarshy "I was asking Bobby to pay me my money from my investments in Joe Horn BBQ Sauce"
I love joes sauce. Drippin off the chin good.
Posted on 6/19/12 at 12:19 pm to Chad504boy
Here is the statement his agent made yesterday to the paper.
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Here's is Williams' statement in its entirety:
Questions for the League Office in Regards to "Bountygate":
Why is the NFL acting in a way that, to many of us, appears to be so "cloak and dagger"? Even though the CBA gave you the right to wait until Friday afternoon to hand over "evidence", was it really necessary to do so? Why was it important to give them (the NFLPA and players) only a weekend to study what you considered to be the "evidence"? If these men have committed such grievous crimes that you have determined that their careers should be in danger and/or their names sullied, why be so secretive about the "evidence" that you use to condemn them? Do you care about NFL players enough to be above board with them? They are what makes the NFL the NFL, are they not? If there is a large "pool" of players that you could have made examples of from across the NFL (and there is!), why did you choose these men? And do you really think it fair to "make examples" out of them? What if you are the ones chosen to be "made examples of" in the future?
Why must you demand your right to be judge, jury, and executioner? Even if you have the right, must you use it? Is there anything to be lost by allowing those who are impartial to have a say-so in whether these judged men are truly given a shot at justice? And did you sincerely consider what you gave the NFLPA sufficient enough to tarnish men's careers and reputations? If you believe the "evidence" to be so substantial that you would espouse the 50,000-plus page file, why would most of those pages have zero to do with "bounties" or even "pay-for-performance"? Do you actually have any concrete evidence that any player from another team was injured as a result of a "bounty" and that a player from the Saints was therefore paid accordingly? Can you honestly say that the Saints employed a 3-year "bounty program" if no one was ever paid for a "bounty"? Would that not constitute one of the worst followed programs ever witnessed? Should there not have been dozens of rewards paid out, if in fact, "bounties for injuries" (which is what this was all about in the beginning, I think) paid out money? And why would your "independent" counsel be so highly paid for their counsel (by you) and also be so secretive? Again, if the facts are so obvious, why not allow someone truly impartial to make the final decision and therefore validate your judgments?
Is honesty truly paramount to you? If so, why did you take Anthony Hargrove's declaration and state that it said things that it did not say? Is that honest? Why did you state that Anthony "admitted to lying" when he has done no such thing? Do you hold yourself to the same standard as you hold others? Have you "admitted to lying"? To clarify, would you consider it lying to say someone "admitted to lying" when they did not do so? And why did you not consider the remarkably difficult situation that Anthony was put in by his coaches, who to him were "the NFL"? What would you have done if you had been back in the NFL for less than a year, having served a year-long suspension, with the threat of your career ending (again) hanging over your head? Would you have disobeyed your employer? Would you now? And is it possible that the interview was about semantics, anyway?
Why did you state that the players declined to be interviewed? Did you not know that Anthony agreed to be interviewed in early April, even scheduled a meeting (Tuesday, April 3, 10A.M.) and was told he would be sent flight information, waited for it, and never even received a cancellation notice? If this is true, which it is, is it fair to state as fact that he simply declined, after which he again agreed to consider meeting if certain criteria were met, which you declined to do? Is that being totally truthful? And why do you say that he spoke to someone on another team about an alleged "bounty" program back during the time in question, when in fact he did not? And why was he the only player you chose to interview about the so-called "bounty" program at that time? Was it because of his difficult past? Was it possibly because he was an easy target?
Do you not recognize that we sometimes utter words or phrases that have different meanings depending on their context? For example, have you as fathers ever told your children that you wanted to "tear them up" or "ring their neck" or "blister their hide" or some such other threat? Tough words, but have we not all spoken such rash things at times, though obviously not meaning the full extent of their definition? Do moments of "lost tempers" or "harsh words" for our children "when things get emotional" constitute "programs of terror" on them? Does clamoring for an 18-game schedule exhibit wanton disregard for the health and safety of the players you "lead"(or was that simply a motivational ploy as it related to the negotiation of the CBA)? Is it possible that some might construe that as a "bounty program" in its own right, i.e. extra revenues resulting in a probability of more injuries? In fact, is it possible that the overwhelming majority of this pressing dilemma is about semantics? And if so, is it possible to admit it? Or, has the genie escaped the bottle with no hope of return?
***************
Here's is Williams' statement in its entirety:
Questions for the League Office in Regards to "Bountygate":
Why is the NFL acting in a way that, to many of us, appears to be so "cloak and dagger"? Even though the CBA gave you the right to wait until Friday afternoon to hand over "evidence", was it really necessary to do so? Why was it important to give them (the NFLPA and players) only a weekend to study what you considered to be the "evidence"? If these men have committed such grievous crimes that you have determined that their careers should be in danger and/or their names sullied, why be so secretive about the "evidence" that you use to condemn them? Do you care about NFL players enough to be above board with them? They are what makes the NFL the NFL, are they not? If there is a large "pool" of players that you could have made examples of from across the NFL (and there is!), why did you choose these men? And do you really think it fair to "make examples" out of them? What if you are the ones chosen to be "made examples of" in the future?
Why must you demand your right to be judge, jury, and executioner? Even if you have the right, must you use it? Is there anything to be lost by allowing those who are impartial to have a say-so in whether these judged men are truly given a shot at justice? And did you sincerely consider what you gave the NFLPA sufficient enough to tarnish men's careers and reputations? If you believe the "evidence" to be so substantial that you would espouse the 50,000-plus page file, why would most of those pages have zero to do with "bounties" or even "pay-for-performance"? Do you actually have any concrete evidence that any player from another team was injured as a result of a "bounty" and that a player from the Saints was therefore paid accordingly? Can you honestly say that the Saints employed a 3-year "bounty program" if no one was ever paid for a "bounty"? Would that not constitute one of the worst followed programs ever witnessed? Should there not have been dozens of rewards paid out, if in fact, "bounties for injuries" (which is what this was all about in the beginning, I think) paid out money? And why would your "independent" counsel be so highly paid for their counsel (by you) and also be so secretive? Again, if the facts are so obvious, why not allow someone truly impartial to make the final decision and therefore validate your judgments?
Is honesty truly paramount to you? If so, why did you take Anthony Hargrove's declaration and state that it said things that it did not say? Is that honest? Why did you state that Anthony "admitted to lying" when he has done no such thing? Do you hold yourself to the same standard as you hold others? Have you "admitted to lying"? To clarify, would you consider it lying to say someone "admitted to lying" when they did not do so? And why did you not consider the remarkably difficult situation that Anthony was put in by his coaches, who to him were "the NFL"? What would you have done if you had been back in the NFL for less than a year, having served a year-long suspension, with the threat of your career ending (again) hanging over your head? Would you have disobeyed your employer? Would you now? And is it possible that the interview was about semantics, anyway?
Why did you state that the players declined to be interviewed? Did you not know that Anthony agreed to be interviewed in early April, even scheduled a meeting (Tuesday, April 3, 10A.M.) and was told he would be sent flight information, waited for it, and never even received a cancellation notice? If this is true, which it is, is it fair to state as fact that he simply declined, after which he again agreed to consider meeting if certain criteria were met, which you declined to do? Is that being totally truthful? And why do you say that he spoke to someone on another team about an alleged "bounty" program back during the time in question, when in fact he did not? And why was he the only player you chose to interview about the so-called "bounty" program at that time? Was it because of his difficult past? Was it possibly because he was an easy target?
Do you not recognize that we sometimes utter words or phrases that have different meanings depending on their context? For example, have you as fathers ever told your children that you wanted to "tear them up" or "ring their neck" or "blister their hide" or some such other threat? Tough words, but have we not all spoken such rash things at times, though obviously not meaning the full extent of their definition? Do moments of "lost tempers" or "harsh words" for our children "when things get emotional" constitute "programs of terror" on them? Does clamoring for an 18-game schedule exhibit wanton disregard for the health and safety of the players you "lead"(or was that simply a motivational ploy as it related to the negotiation of the CBA)? Is it possible that some might construe that as a "bounty program" in its own right, i.e. extra revenues resulting in a probability of more injuries? In fact, is it possible that the overwhelming majority of this pressing dilemma is about semantics? And if so, is it possible to admit it? Or, has the genie escaped the bottle with no hope of return?
Posted on 6/19/12 at 12:19 pm to whodatfan
10 bucks says ESPN doesn't cover this. They'd hate to interrupt their LeBron coverage.
Posted on 6/19/12 at 12:31 pm to notiger1997
WHERE'S THE NATIONAL MEDIA COVERAGE ON THIS?
Posted on 6/19/12 at 12:31 pm to hg
I can't stop laughing at that gif.
Posted on 6/19/12 at 12:38 pm to Chad504boy
quote:
he's got evidence to implicate drew brees?
Vitt was right. He can't dance.
Posted on 6/19/12 at 1:04 pm to Chad504boy
quote:
Hargrove has some information he'd like to share! 2 pm Central
Posted on 6/19/12 at 1:29 pm to Suntiger
any chance he rolls over and let's the bus roll over him?
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