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re: PM keeps running us out of innings
Posted on 6/9/12 at 3:31 pm to LSUAlum2001
Posted on 6/9/12 at 3:31 pm to LSUAlum2001
What exactly was bad about the Snickeris PM call to steal? Hindsight from rantards because of a debatable call? Running on that play was the right move.
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Posted on 6/9/12 at 3:31 pm to beardedzeus
Running to stay out of a DP actually caused a DP yesterday. Ball was hit hard up the middle and by running took the second baseman to the ball, which he turned into a DP anyway.
Posted on 6/9/12 at 3:32 pm to Lsutigerswood60
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Snickeris runs on a 3-2 count and is thrown out killing a major opportunity.
My problem with that play was that at the time, the Stony Brook starter was beginning to labor. If we get the walk there with no one out, there's a chance we might have been able to chase him. Instead he gets a gift out and gets out of the inning.
That said, LSU is not a very good hitting team. It would really help if the Tigers could get an early lead tomorrow. I have a feeling we're gonna need 5 or 6 runs to stay in the game.
Posted on 6/9/12 at 3:33 pm to Lsutigerswood60
Why do people with less than 10 posts always complain about things that don't get talked about enough on the Rant?
Posted on 6/9/12 at 3:36 pm to Les Cajones
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Running to stay out of a DP actually caused a DP yesterday. Ball was hit hard up the middle and by running took the second baseman to the ball, which he turned into a DP anyway.
I disagreed with that call. I don't disagree with running Snickeris today.
Posted on 6/9/12 at 3:37 pm to mtntiger
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If we get the walk there with no one out,
We got the walk.
Posted on 6/9/12 at 3:38 pm to Lsutigerswood60
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PM keeps running us out of innings
Pretty much my only critical thing to say about PM.
But, could it be he understands that he has to try and manufacture runs with the fact that we don't hit that well?
Posted on 6/9/12 at 3:39 pm to Lsutigerswood60
P.M. got you where you are today in a Super Regional needing only 1 win to get to the CWS.
I disagree completely with your thought process.
I disagree completely with your thought process.
Posted on 6/9/12 at 3:40 pm to munchman
the bigger problem today was his mistake of pulling the infielders in on the first run
Posted on 6/9/12 at 3:40 pm to mtntiger
This was pretty much my point. We gave him an out that he didn't earn, which came at a point when he looked to be slowing down. With the pitcher laboring, the risk of being thrown out on the bases seemed to be greater than hitting into a double play. If we hit into a double play, then whatever, the pitcher bailed himself out. But running to prevent a double play and being thrown out at 2nd bails the pitcher out. I just don't think it is necessary in that situation, or in many situations late in games.
Posted on 6/9/12 at 3:47 pm to Tiger Authority
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What exactly was bad about the Snickeris PM call to steal? Hindsight from rantards because of a debatable call? Running on that play was the right move.
My point was that the eventual call (out/safe) is irrelevant. With the pitcher laboring, in that situation, the risks outweigh the rewards. What if in that situation Moore hadn't walked, and the pitch was a called strike 3 and they then threw Snickeris out? Then trying to stay out of a double play would have caused a double play. That is overall point. Trying to avoid double plays seems to be causing them more often than not.
Posted on 6/9/12 at 4:09 pm to Doc Fenton
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Why do people with less than 10 posts always complain about things that don't get talked about enough on the Rant?
IDK. Personally, I think they complain about as much as people with 10k posts.
The rantards have the benefit of hindsight to second guess CPM's calls. Yet they don't talk about the calls that work....lol. I just browse through and laugh/shake my head because CPM has probably forgot more about baseball than these folks will ever know.....including me!
Cue the "I pay my hard earned money so I can bitch all I want" crowd. And let's not leave out the "CPM gets paid millions so a loss is inexcusable" crowd. Did I leave anybody out?
Oh yeah....the "so you're happy with all of CPM's decisions" folks too. I think that about covers it.
Posted on 6/9/12 at 4:21 pm to Lsutigerswood60
You do realize that Snickeris was safe on that steal, correct? The call worked.
It's not Mainieri's fault the kid doesn't forgot the basic principles of baseball that require you to stay on the base if you don't want to be tagged out.
It's not Mainieri's fault the kid doesn't forgot the basic principles of baseball that require you to stay on the base if you don't want to be tagged out.
This post was edited on 6/9/12 at 4:23 pm
Posted on 6/9/12 at 4:38 pm to zip25
Snick thought he was touching the bag with his toe, but he wasn't. Sucked.
Coach was off his game today and Stoners got ALL the breaks. We totally wasted our best pitcher.
Coach was off his game today and Stoners got ALL the breaks. We totally wasted our best pitcher.
Posted on 6/9/12 at 4:49 pm to zip25
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You do realize that Snickeris was safe on that steal, correct? The call worked.
No it didn't. He would have been safe at 2nd had he not stolen. It was ball 4 correct? It was an unnecessary risk that wasn't worth the reward. The outcome of the play was irrelevant.
Posted on 6/9/12 at 5:27 pm to LSURussian
quote:he has nine posts, so affirmative.
PM keeps running us out of innings
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Why is no one talking about this?
Are you new here?
Posted on 6/9/12 at 5:30 pm to GeauxTigers0107
quote:. You also forgot this one. Coaches know more than us and are always right, therefore we shouldn't question them....so let's shut down the rant.
The rantards have the benefit of hindsight to second guess CPM's calls. Yet they don't talk about the calls that work....lol. I just browse through and laugh/shake my head because CPM has probably forgot more about baseball than these folks will ever know.....including me!
Cue the "I pay my hard earned money so I can bitch all I want" crowd. And let's not leave out the "CPM gets paid millions so a loss is inexcusable" crowd. Did I leave anybody out?
Oh yeah....the "so you're happy with all of CPM's decisions" folks too. I think that about covers it.
Posted on 6/9/12 at 5:32 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
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You also forgot this one. Coaches know more than us and are always right, therefore we shouldn't question them....so let's shut down the rant.
That was perfect.Posted on 6/9/12 at 5:53 pm to heartbreakTiger
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the bigger problem today was his mistake of pulling the infielders in on the first run
Seems to me the inability to hit contributes a lot to other problems which have been well documented.
Let get the bats going and many other problems will solve themselves.
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