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re: Were the last 4 years the worst stretch of QB play in LSU history?

Posted on 5/2/12 at 9:16 pm to
Posted by djmicrobe
Planet Earth
Member since Jan 2007
4970 posts
Posted on 5/2/12 at 9:16 pm to
YES, worst QB play I have ever seen. Over the past 4 years there were some years that the LSU offense was not in the Top 100 in passing.
Posted by Tiger Abe
Tiger Town
Member since Aug 2011
795 posts
Posted on 5/2/12 at 9:22 pm to



You, my boy, are a prime example of why counsins should f@#k!

Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 5/2/12 at 9:24 pm to
quote:

Jefferson was an above average LSU quarterback when you look at his stats and add his running stats to the mix.


yeah, he was awesome
This post was edited on 5/2/12 at 9:25 pm
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16660 posts
Posted on 5/2/12 at 9:35 pm to
I've been saying this for 4 years now, Lee wasn't that bad in 2008. Did he have a lot of interceptions? Yes. Did the defense help him AT ALL? No.
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Go back and look at the offensive output that year (including Lee's). It's not nearly as bad as most LSU fans remember. The defense was simply atrocious so we were always playing from behind - this led to a lot of Lee's interceptions. Now I'm not arguing that he was great that year, or that he doesn't deserve any of the blame for the problems we had, but he was definitely a serviceable QB.


Very much agree with this. JL was pretty good as a Fr provided: a) there was someone to spell him (Hatch before the injury vs UGA) and b) he wasn't compelled to make something happen every snap because the D was so bad.

I don't dismiss the int's. They're on JL. But the pick 6's were mostly a fluke (he couldn't have done that had he tried).
Posted by BT
North La
Member since Aug 2008
9766 posts
Posted on 5/2/12 at 9:40 pm to
Idk, but the worst starting qb in the history of this school started the majority of games in this 4 years.
So yeah I suppose answer is yes.
Posted by DrD
Houston
Member since Jan 2010
2622 posts
Posted on 5/2/12 at 9:51 pm to
Overall ..... Maybe. I thought both JJ and JL had their moments of significant accomplishments on the football field at different times. Hard to argue with the overall success of the program as well. May they both rest in folklore peace.
Posted by Gladzilla
Member since Mar 2012
149 posts
Posted on 5/2/12 at 10:04 pm to
josh booty was worse
Posted by FlyingTiger06
Bossier City, LA
Member since Nov 2004
1897 posts
Posted on 5/2/12 at 10:27 pm to
quote:

Did he have a lot of interceptions? Yes. Did the defense help him AT ALL? No.


Agreed. One of the games that JL caught the most flak for was the UGA game where we lost 52-38. he threw two pick-6's in that game which gave UGA 14 points. But do the math, that means our defense gave up 38 points on their own. At the same time, our offense scored 38 points against a pretty good UGA defense. If our defense would have held their end of the bargain, even with the pick-6's, it would have at least been a close game.
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 5/2/12 at 10:30 pm to
1990: Chap Loup vs. Sol Graves -- TURRIBLE
1991: Chad Loup vs. Jesse Daigle vs. Brad Strohm -- LOB IT UP TO TODD KINCHEN
1992: 4-way race (Loup/Daigle/Howard/Huffman) -- CRAZY
1993: Chad Loup vs. Jamie Howard -- NOT GOOD, BUT PIGS FLEW
1994: Jamie Howard vs. Melvin Hill -- NIGHTMARE AT AUBURN
This post was edited on 5/2/12 at 10:32 pm
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 5/2/12 at 10:32 pm to
quote:

Were the last 4 years the worst stretch of QB play in LSU history?
Yes.

2009 being the only aberration.
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 5/2/12 at 10:34 pm to
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2009 being the only aberration.


WTF?

Out of the years 2008 thru 2011, 2009 was clearly the worst quarterbacked year of them all.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 5/2/12 at 10:57 pm to
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WTF?
Good numbers.

Had alot of sacks, though.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10125 posts
Posted on 5/2/12 at 11:07 pm to
quote:

but the worst starting qb in the history of this school started the majority of games in this 4 years.
You should look this up because JJ holds numerous top ten spots- %, ypg, wins, TD passes and others. Neither JJ or JL were as bad as the chicken little beraters like you imply.

Posted by STRIPES
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
4771 posts
Posted on 5/3/12 at 3:42 am to
The K.O. Trimble/Billy Broussard days were worse.

No doubt about it.
Posted by LSU CRAZY
Da Bestbank!!
Member since Dec 2004
3457 posts
Posted on 5/3/12 at 5:33 am to
Booty>>>>JJ
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
29340 posts
Posted on 5/3/12 at 6:51 am to
quote:

Outside of the first half of 2011, QB play has been downright abysmal


And what was different about that particular stretch?

No matter, LookAtMe will be in here to dazzle us with some spreadsheets and selective statistics, and boxcar and the rest of the family will ask you what you were watching-Tebow II was terrific behind center.
Posted by Tiger Roux
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
4942 posts
Posted on 5/3/12 at 7:17 am to
the last 3 games of the year saw the worst QB play I can remember.
Posted by DP40
Swamps and creeks
Member since Nov 2008
9907 posts
Posted on 5/3/12 at 7:23 am to
quote:

Jefferson was an above average LSU quarterback when you look at his stats and add his running stats to the mix.

His TD/INT ratio is a lot better than a good number of LSU QB's.


Selective stats only guys are the worst. JJ was freaking horrible in every facet.

Took way too many sacks and looked to run way too much when his number one option was covered. His pocket presence was the worst I've seen here and you can't "stat" that.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10125 posts
Posted on 5/3/12 at 8:13 am to
quote:

the last 3 games of the year saw the worst QB play I can remember.

One of those was 200+yds passing at 60+%
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 5/3/12 at 8:25 am to
quote:

One of those was 200+yds passing at 60+%


one decent game out of what?? fricking 30 something?

Keep fighting the good fight bro.
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