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re: Disastrous night for the tank
Posted on 4/20/12 at 11:35 am to Fearthehat0307
Posted on 4/20/12 at 11:35 am to Fearthehat0307
So did you go to the games and cheer for the opposing team? Did you wear opposing colors?
Posted on 4/20/12 at 11:35 am to quail man
Exactly. No one drafted kwame brown #1 because they figured he was gonna suck
Posted on 4/20/12 at 11:36 am to TigerTatorTots
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People are acting as if a worse record is guaranteeing them something, when it isnt
Sure it is. It guarantees you better odds. It guarantees you better slotting if you don't get a top 3 pick.
Winning at this point was counter-intuitive.
I was at the game last night and enjoyed myself, and it was hard for me to not go crazy over a win.
Posted on 4/20/12 at 11:37 am to TigerTatorTots
quote:frick no
So did you go to the games and cheer for the opposing team? Did you wear opposing colors?
i didnt openly cheer against our team as a matter fact i had to not watch a bunch of games because while i was watching it i couldnt root against us. so many games i just waited and looked at the score and was satisfied if we lost. it made me sad to watch games i hated seeing the discouraging look on our players faces
Posted on 4/20/12 at 11:42 am to Fearthehat0307
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Fearthehat0307
there's a large difference between what you are saying and what others on the tank side are saying. if this was like a political scale where left wingers are tankers and right wingers are non-tankers, then you'd be a moderate left winger, while many like Minnesota bleepbleep and jumbeauwhogivesafrick are extreme left wingers.
Posted on 4/20/12 at 11:43 am to Fun Bunch
quote:No it doesn't. CLE and SAC could win and therefore is guarantees us nothing.
Sure it is. It guarantees you better odds. It guarantees you better slotting if you don't get a top 3 pick.
Posted on 4/20/12 at 11:45 am to quail man
quote:O I C i didnt read this whole thread i just jumped in i guess like my mom says i jumped all up in the kool-aid and dont know the flavor
there's a large difference between what you are saying and what others on the tank side are saying. if this was like a political scale where left wingers are tankers and right wingers are non-tankers, then you'd be a moderate left winger, while many like Minnesota bleepbleep and jumbeauwhogivesafrick are extreme left wingers.
Posted on 4/20/12 at 11:53 am to TigerTatorTots
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No it doesn't. CLE and SAC could win and therefore is guarantees us nothing.
You're saying it doesn't guarantee you better ODDS? It does.
It guarantees you better slotting than other teams if you don't win the top 3 pick.
There is no logical reason to win right now. None.
Posted on 4/20/12 at 11:55 am to Fearthehat0307
Isn't the lottery picked behind closed doors?? Stern said it himself we One great player away. Davis is ours already 3,4, or 5!
Posted on 4/20/12 at 11:56 am to quail man
quote:i know you werent thinking of it like this but i am pretty pissed off that you put me on the political left
if this was like a political scale where left wingers are tankers and right wingers are non-tankers, then you'd be a moderate left winger
This post was edited on 4/20/12 at 11:56 am
Posted on 4/20/12 at 11:57 am to Fun Bunch
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There is no logical reason to win right now. None.
there are tons of logical reasons to win.
fan support, team morale, excitement for next season, etc.
Posted on 4/20/12 at 11:58 am to Fearthehat0307
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i know you werent thinking of it like this
oh no, i did it on purpose
i figured you'd like that
Posted on 4/20/12 at 12:01 pm to quail man
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here are tons of logical reasons to win.
fan support, team morale, excitement for next season, etc.
Nah.
Fans will forget about an end of season win streak in about 2 weeks. That won't have any impact on fan support whatsoever.
You know what is statistically proven to improve ticket sales and fan support WITHOUT QUESTION? A better draft pick? You know what increases the odds of better draft pick? Losing.
Team morale is also irrelevant. New players, a new owner, an offseason together, and a positive training camp will do far more good than any meaningless end of season spurt.
Big picture people. Quit thinking like "fans".
Posted on 4/20/12 at 12:01 pm to Jumbeauxlaya
I'm late reading this, but
I already told you we still have the 3rd worst record because we have more losses than Sacramento and Cleveland. We could definitely lose out.
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You can rationalize all you want, but the fact is last night cost us at least 5-10% to get the best player.
I already told you we still have the 3rd worst record because we have more losses than Sacramento and Cleveland. We could definitely lose out.
Posted on 4/20/12 at 12:04 pm to Fun Bunch
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"fans".
don't root for their team to lose.
I'm done with this, i'm not convincing any tanker, and no tanker is convincing me.
and i've bookmarked this. i will be back to shite all over every tanker down the line.
Posted on 4/20/12 at 12:07 pm to quail man
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oh no, i did it on purpose
i figured you'd like that
Posted on 4/20/12 at 12:12 pm to Fearthehat0307
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i cheered for our team i think for the first 5 or 6 games before i realized how terrible we were going to be if gordon remained injured thats when i grabbed the wheel and started driving
Exactly my timeframe as well.
Posted on 4/20/12 at 12:16 pm to MinnesotaTiger
Looking at the schedule, I hope we rest Gordon and lose out. We play GS and they're blatantly tanking so we still may win that one, but Sacramento has a game left against Charlotte and Cleveland against Washington. Those are almost guaranteed wins so if we lose our last 3 and they win just one of theirs then we will be fine.
This post was edited on 4/20/12 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 4/20/12 at 12:19 pm to quail man
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don't root for their team to lose.
I'm done with this, i'm not convincing any tanker, and no tanker is convincing me.
and i've bookmarked this. i will be back to shite all over every tanker down the line.
Sure they do. True fans that have the use of logic on their side.
I was at the game. In the moment, I wasn't cheering for them to lose. During the course of a game, I don't cheer for them to lose.
But the logical thing for them to do is lose. Wanting them to win isn't logical at all.
Posted on 4/20/12 at 12:22 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:no it doesn't. Even with a win last night, we can still secure the 3rd worst overall if CLE and SaC win, therefore it isn't garaunteeing anything.
You're saying it doesn't guarantee you better ODDS? It does.
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