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Posted on 3/9/12 at 1:30 pm to
Posted by LSUinMA
Commerce, Texas
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 3/9/12 at 1:30 pm to
I left midway through the movie and went to dinner.
Posted by Jumbeauxlaya
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
18083 posts
Posted on 3/9/12 at 1:57 pm to
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What an abortion of a movie. Turned it off an hour in. Anyone feel the same? Had so much potential but looked as if it was directed and written by a fifth grader. And the acting??? woof...


You're aware you're watching a comic book action movie right? I'd rank them as follows..

Batman movies.
First Class
Iron Man movies

Captain America
Spiderman 1-2
X-men movies
Thor


Hulk
Spider man 3









Superman
This post was edited on 3/9/12 at 1:59 pm
Posted by Jumbeauxlaya
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
18083 posts
Posted on 3/9/12 at 2:00 pm to
Also at the lack of originality in naming these heroes in the first place..

____man
____man
____man
____-men
____man
Posted by BlacknGold
He Hate Me
Member since Mar 2009
12060 posts
Posted on 3/9/12 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

Captain America
Spiderman 1-2
X-men movies
Thor


kind of unfair to lump x1 and 2 with x3, which was just as bad as spidey3.

id have a hard time picking between x2 and iron man
Posted by thatguy1892
That place you wish you were.
Member since Aug 2011
4628 posts
Posted on 3/9/12 at 2:07 pm to
Hey it was the 20s and 30s ... then there was Stan Lee.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37532 posts
Posted on 3/9/12 at 2:07 pm to
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As far as comic films goes, DC/WB/Nolan has set the bar and it's really high.


Christopher Nolan doesn't make comic book movies.

And the Batman movies have been the only ones from DC inspired properties that have been good.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 3/9/12 at 2:14 pm to
It's not an abortion like you think it is. But it's not oscar worthy IMO. It did what it was supposed to accomplish which was tell the origin story and be a primer to the Avengers.

It's a decent flick for when you need to kill some time.
Posted by thatguy1892
That place you wish you were.
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 3/9/12 at 2:16 pm to
Did you not read the full post?

Also does make comic book films? Then what is Batman? And of course Batman is the only ones that have been good, other than The Green Lantern there hasn't been anything else made recently.

Lastly here's something to go along with "Nolan doesn't make comic book movies."

quote:

On March 10, 2010, Nolan confirmed that he and David Goyer have been working on an idea for a Superman film. Nolan says, "He basically told me, 'I have this thought about how you would approach Superman.' I immediately got it, loved it and thought: That is a way of approaching the story I’ve never seen before that makes it incredibly exciting. I wanted to get Emma and I involved in shepherding the project right away and getting it to the studio and getting it going in an exciting way… A lot of people have approached Superman in a lot of different ways. I only know the way that has worked for us that’s what I know how to do." Although Zack Snyder is directing,[28] Nolan will have significant creative input in the process.[21]
Posted by Starchild
Member since May 2010
13550 posts
Posted on 3/9/12 at 2:17 pm to
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X-men: First Class has substance. Avengers looks like it will go as follows:



You have no basis for this and are going into the movie biased so you'll probably come out of it the same. Maybe it will be what you say...but give it a chance at least before casting judgment.
Posted by bigpetedatiga
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2009
8634 posts
Posted on 3/9/12 at 2:17 pm to
I actually thought it started off good, but after about the hour point, it just went down hill and fast!
Posted by JW
Los Angeles
Member since Jul 2004
4796 posts
Posted on 3/9/12 at 2:19 pm to
I'm working with Joe Johnston as we speak ... I'll be sure to tell him that some of the guys on the movie board thinks his movie is an abortion.

that said, i still haven't seen it.

Posted by constant cough
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2007
44788 posts
Posted on 3/9/12 at 2:19 pm to
Yeah I agree.

I liked Captain America cause it captured that feel good pro-American vibe that director Joe Johnston had previously going on in films like The Rocketeer & October Sky.

I really reminded me of The Rocketeer in a lot of ways and that's a good thing.

It wasn't supposed to be some dark brooding drama it was mean to be a more light hearted feel good action adventure and I think that's just what it was.


quote:

I'm working with Joe Johnston as we speak ... I'll be sure to tell him that some of the guys on the movie board thinks his movie is an abortion.



Tell him my thoughts on it instead.
This post was edited on 3/9/12 at 2:21 pm
Posted by JW
Los Angeles
Member since Jul 2004
4796 posts
Posted on 3/9/12 at 2:21 pm to
He would like that better ... he is kind of intimidating, but overall pretty nice.
Posted by DanglingFury
Living the dream
Member since Dec 2007
20452 posts
Posted on 3/9/12 at 2:22 pm to
quote:

Lastly here's something to go along with "Nolan doesn't make comic book movies."


I'm sure Freaux will speak for himself, but I don't think he was saying Nolan doesn't make movies with comic book characters in them. He was saying he makes a legitimate movie, as based in real life as he can make it, and it happens to have a comic character in it.

TDK's story would have worked as a straight up crime genre, but it had Batman in it too.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 3/9/12 at 2:23 pm to
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other than The Green Lantern there hasn't been anything else made recently.


What do you consider recent?

Superman Returns
Watchmen
Jonah Hex

Are all in the last 5-6 years or so.
Posted by thatguy1892
That place you wish you were.
Member since Aug 2011
4628 posts
Posted on 3/9/12 at 2:37 pm to
quote:

Superman Returns, Jonah Hex


I'll give you these two. But again before Nolan was given the production keys to DCU.

As for The Watchmen. It was published through Vertigo. (I know it's own by DC, I'm just trying to play around. ) But to me to Ultimate Cut of The Watchmen was done very well as far as the comics go. Snyder's team changed the ending to make it a little more believable than "aliens."

And if this is the point you were making.

quote:

He was saying he makes a legitimate movie, as based in real life as he can make it, and it happens to have a comic character in it.


Then I agree, but I think that's something that everybody understands but Batman is still a comic book character. That's why in the credits it say "based on the comic book character created by Bob Cane."
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 3/9/12 at 2:46 pm to
I liked it okay overall but it was lacking some substance. I'd recommend it if options are limited.
Posted by constant cough
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2007
44788 posts
Posted on 3/9/12 at 3:00 pm to
quote:

I liked it okay overall but it was lacking some substance.


See that's just it though it wasn't supposed to be substantive or weighty. It's not a serious drama it's generic and formulaic but for me it's a formula that works very well for what the movie is trying to achieve.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37532 posts
Posted on 3/9/12 at 3:46 pm to
quote:

Yeah I agree.

I liked Captain America cause it captured that feel good pro-American vibe that director Joe Johnston had previously going on in films like The Rocketeer & October Sky.

I really reminded me of The Rocketeer in a lot of ways and that's a good thing.

It wasn't supposed to be some dark brooding drama it was mean to be a more light hearted feel good action adventure and I think that's just what it was.


Exactly.

It was supposed to be a little cheesy and goofy.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37532 posts
Posted on 3/9/12 at 3:51 pm to
quote:

I'm sure Freaux will speak for himself, but I don't think he was saying Nolan doesn't make movies with comic book characters in them. He was saying he makes a legitimate movie, as based in real life as he can make it, and it happens to have a comic character in it.


This. There is a large chasm of difference between Batman and Captain America interpretations.

Therefore, Nolan hasn't really "set a bar" for Comic Book Movies, because he doesn't make them.

Captain America does a better job pulling from its roots than Batman does. Fact. That's taking NOTHING away from Nolan's Batman series, which is great on its own terms. In the excellent and focused translation of Batman, Nolan has both lost and gained some things from the original, or even later, versions of Batman.

Both are excellent interpretations, but Batman is as far removed from "comic book" as Captain America is from "gritty reality."
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