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re: Official What Happened Behind the Scenes Thread: Day 2, Still Waiting for Truth
Posted on 1/11/12 at 12:51 pm to windhammontanatigers
Posted on 1/11/12 at 12:51 pm to windhammontanatigers
We were dazed and confused from the opening kickoff. It was not LSU football.
Something happened Monday. I might never know anything definitive, but I am going to keep asking the question.
Something happened Monday. I might never know anything definitive, but I am going to keep asking the question.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 12:52 pm to MoreOrLes
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supposedly there's a bad element on the team that has fought to get their way, and it eventually ate them alive from the inside out. Gee i wonder who this is?
Did Joe Horn frick someone's wife or Mom on the LSU squad?
Posted on 1/11/12 at 12:52 pm to windhammontanatigers
Rumor in the other thread, T Bob and Jefferson got into a fist fight in the locker room.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 12:53 pm to filmmaker45
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filmmaker45 Official What Happened Behind the Scenes Thread: Day 2, Still Waiting for Truth Rumor in the other thread, T Bob and Jefferson got into a fist fight in the locker room.
Before the game or after?
Which thread?
Posted on 1/11/12 at 12:54 pm to filmmaker45
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Rumor in the other thread, T Bob and Jefferson got into a fist fight in the locker room
after the game i assume? Maybe its becuae JJ said he played well and made good decisions and deflected blame.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 12:54 pm to filmmaker45
Thanks for the insight. Guess i will go to that thread next.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 12:55 pm to AlaTiger
Has anyone heard the rumor that Jarrett Lee had some sort of nervous breakdown after the first Alabama game?
Posted on 1/11/12 at 12:55 pm to BobBoucher
If it happened after, it wouldnt explain why LSU played like shite from the get go
Posted on 1/11/12 at 12:55 pm to LsuTool
So at this point people are just actively making things up?
Posted on 1/11/12 at 12:55 pm to Cold Cous Cous
this thread is about to get whacked.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 12:56 pm to White Roach
quote:Their coach was better than our coach?
Here's another (semi-plausible!) explanation:
Posted on 1/11/12 at 12:58 pm to goraggio
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goraggio Official What Happened Behind the Scenes Thread: Day 2, Still Waiting for Truth Has anyone heard the rumor that Jarrett Lee had some sort of nervous breakdown after the first Alabama game?
Dumb. And what's a nervous breakdown. If he was upset because he got benched, who wouldnt understand that? If he kind of gave up, I get that too.
Anyone interpreting that as a nervous breakdown is just stupid.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 1:00 pm to Cold Cous Cous
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So at this point people are just actively making things up?
Shhhhhhhh, you're spoiling the fun.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 1:01 pm to AlaTiger
I heard the T-Bob and Jefferson fight happened at half time.
T-Bob wanted Ice-Cream for his half time snack, while Jefferson wanted Oranges.
Since Miles loves Jefferson so much, he opted to give everyone Oranges for their snack and T-Bob was irate.
Since Lee and T-Bob are good friends, Lee had a nervous break down and told coach Miles he couldn't go in the game while his friends were fighting.
T-Bob wanted Ice-Cream for his half time snack, while Jefferson wanted Oranges.
Since Miles loves Jefferson so much, he opted to give everyone Oranges for their snack and T-Bob was irate.
Since Lee and T-Bob are good friends, Lee had a nervous break down and told coach Miles he couldn't go in the game while his friends were fighting.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 1:01 pm to mule74
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Nick Saban taught his DEs and OLBs to scrape down the line on the option. That's it. That's all that happened.
NO...much more than that happened. We simply failed to respond and make significant changes...no effort to adapt. No way with all the talent on that team that we were out of other options, we just didn't try them. Why was that?
Posted on 1/11/12 at 1:03 pm to Jsoula
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Me and my family walked over to the Hilton right before the team loaded the bus and rode over to the superdome. Let me just say, not ONE player looked up/ready for this game. While the players walked on to the bus and we the fans were cheering, going crazy, chanting "L S U", and just getting emotionally fired up for the game, I couldn't quite tell from the player's facial expressions if whether they were EXTREMELY focused, or if they're moms had just been shot and killed. They literally looked drained/lifeless. I specifically remember one player as he sat down on the bus, put his head down against the window and not even look out the window towards the crowd. Also, not but 3-4 players i remember out of the whole team as they boarded the bus glanced at us cheering. It was really odd. Almost spooky. I mean I don't expect them to be hootin and hollerin and making a big deal out it, but, it was NOT like what you usually see when the team walks down victory lane. They looked extremely tight or nervous, and didn't seem right at all.
Anyways, not saying or trying to fuel a rumor, but this just what i witnessed and thought i would share. Maybe someone else who was there would agree with me.
Those of us who watched on TV heard pregame comments (might have been Erin Andrews?) that Les Miles stated he thought his team was too amped up and jittery prior to the Ohio State game of the 2007 season, and that he believed it caused many miscues (allowing a 65 yd TD run and going 3 and out on first possession) during that game. The comment (made before this game) was that Miles was trying to make sure that didn't happen again for this game.
This was stated very clearly. It turned out to be true and we witnessed the result. If the result of the game was that the team was not "amped up" enough, it was intentional. Blame lies solely on the shoulders of Les Miles for intentionally "amping it down". It's certainly not worth firing him over.
I think he learned a lesson that he did not need to learn, by stupidly over-valuing improbable events that occurred in the first quarter of that game. Many coaches do that. It's a shame he had to experience that so late in his career and with such an important game on the line.
Of course detractors will say that Les simply gave that tale to the reporters because he was trying to cover for something else that happened which he knew would result in an emotionless team taking the field. I don't believe Les is smart enough to plant a story before a game.
So if it is true that players were angry at Miles AFTER the game, it may simply be them releasing that emotion HE instructed them to suppress at a time when they felt his decisions led to their demise. They should be pissed that they were not permitted to get "amped up" (as reported on TV before the game), and they should obviously be pissed at Les.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 1:03 pm to TulsaTimeTiger
I posted this in the anchored thread, but...
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We were completely demoralized and unnerved by Bama. That is what happened.
When you are embarrassed that bad, everyone's emotions get heated and people are looking to others to blame, so is is very possible there was a locker room scuffle or players calling out coaches etc.
A fix? Really? Come on people. I don't think this is even possible with the amount of people who would have to be involved. Plus, the line was only what, 2 points? Why would we have lost by that much.
Players going out the night before the game...that's possible. A fight over a girl or players going out, also possible, but not a damn fix.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 1:06 pm to White Roach
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We got our nuts whipped by a team that prepared and executed better than we did.
Don't be ridiculous man, no way it's this.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 1:07 pm to Slickback
Don't worry, this guy will get it all figured out.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 1:07 pm to SBC
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Um...it is easy. They played a team that they had already beaten.
How can the team not be up for the Championship game with an opponent that has stated its purpose is to beat you and "restore the order"? I would have been over the edge motivated to drag them up and down the field about that.
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