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re: My 9 y/o daughter's conclusion after seeing the climax in League of Their Own
Posted on 2/9/12 at 5:02 pm to Freauxzen
Posted on 2/9/12 at 5:02 pm to Freauxzen
I hear ya.
I watched this entire movie last night to form my own opinion.
From the very first 2 minutes of the film it was as if it was meant to show she dropped it on purpose. Like how she was telling her oldest kid to always take it easy on the younger one..
Then all throughout the movie it seems to set up that she drops the ball on purpose.. I don't think she loved the game as much as it was made out to be.. she was just a natural..
but after watching how it all went down.. the actual play itself.. I really don't believe she dropped it on purpose. She came back and played an amazing game. She had the crazy catch in the dugout. She had the go ahead RBI.. and even when her sister did come to the plate she told her pitcher exactly what to do.
I watched this entire movie last night to form my own opinion.
From the very first 2 minutes of the film it was as if it was meant to show she dropped it on purpose. Like how she was telling her oldest kid to always take it easy on the younger one..
Then all throughout the movie it seems to set up that she drops the ball on purpose.. I don't think she loved the game as much as it was made out to be.. she was just a natural..
but after watching how it all went down.. the actual play itself.. I really don't believe she dropped it on purpose. She came back and played an amazing game. She had the crazy catch in the dugout. She had the go ahead RBI.. and even when her sister did come to the plate she told her pitcher exactly what to do.
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Posted on 2/9/12 at 5:08 pm to alajones
quote:If she wanted Kit to win.
So why did she tell the pitcher she can't hit the high ones?
This post was edited on 2/9/12 at 5:09 pm
Posted on 2/9/12 at 5:10 pm to SouljaBreauxTellEm
quote:I agree with this. From the storytelling perspective that these guys think I just don't get.
Then all throughout the movie it seems to set up that she drops the ball on purpose.
quote:Which can only lead to one conclusion.
She came back and played an amazing game. She had the crazy catch in the dugout. She had the go ahead RBI.. and even when her sister did come to the plate she told her pitcher exactly what to do.
Posted on 2/9/12 at 5:16 pm to SouljaBreauxTellEm
quote:
She had the go ahead RBI.. and even when her sister did come to the plate she told her pitcher exactly what to do.
already been covered.
Posted on 2/9/12 at 5:17 pm to alajones
quote:
I agree with this. From the storytelling perspective that these guys think I just don't get.
i'm sorry. i see all sides of this story. yours doesn't hold water.
at all.
i have fundamentally been trained at this type of analyzation since early, early schooling.
quote:
Which can only lead to one conclusion.
that Dottie was slowly coming to the conclusion and facing the obstacles that ended up leading to her ultimate happiness. People don't change overnight. Dottie faced that battle the whole movie.
This post was edited on 2/9/12 at 5:23 pm
Posted on 2/9/12 at 5:37 pm to udtiger
quote:Does someone actually doubt this?
"Dottie dropped it on purpose."
Posted on 2/9/12 at 5:39 pm to LSU Fan 90812
quote:Oh you're smarter than me. My bad. I didn't realize who I was dealing with.
i'm sorry. i see all sides of this story. yours doesn't hold water.
at all.
i have fundamentally been trained at this type of analyzation since early, early schooling.
Posted on 2/9/12 at 5:40 pm to LSU Fan 90812
quote:By your opinions.
already been covered.
Posted on 2/9/12 at 5:42 pm to alajones
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Oh you're smarter than me. My bad. I didn't realize who I was dealing with.
i'd say overall, probably. but when it comes to these types of matters, i'd say almost definitely.
it's really no shame to not be as smart as someone. one of the few things lacking in america is a clear sense of who is smarter and who is dumber. everyone always wants to say everyone has an opinion and it's equally valid. i'm sorry this is simply untrue. there are people who are experts in certain areas and certain types of thinking. i would never pretend to argue with a doctor on matters of medicine, or an engineer about city sewer systems, or a lawyer about the law.
This post was edited on 2/9/12 at 5:45 pm
Posted on 2/9/12 at 5:54 pm to LSU Fan 90812
Holy shite 
Posted on 2/9/12 at 6:00 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
Holy shite
:shrug:
i'm smart. there are smarter. but there a whole lot who are dumber.
Posted on 2/9/12 at 6:02 pm to LSU Fan 90812
quote:
i'd say overall, probably. but when it comes to these types of matters, i'd say almost definitely
good to know you are so humble about it to.
people that have to brag about how much better they are than everyone else, usually aren't.
quote:
there are people who are experts
Yep, and many times they are blinded by their own arrogance, often with disasterous results.
Posted on 2/9/12 at 6:07 pm to Choupique19
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I've never understood the argument that it was NOT intentional. The scene earlier in the movie showed that Dottie could hold onto the ball.
I can show you pictures of Wes Welker catching hundreds of passes from Tom brady. He dropped a crucial one in the SB on Suday, is it then your conclusion that he dropped it on purpose?
Posted on 2/9/12 at 6:09 pm to H-Town Tiger
quote:
good to know you are so humble about it to.
people that have to brag about how much better they are than everyone else, usually aren't.
assertion isn't bragging. nowhere did i say that I was the smartest, best, or most insightful critic of movies on this board. there are many, specifically, those who surround me on a daily basis who are much more adept at breaking down movies, even on a minute by minute basis than me. some of them are even on this board.
but compared to the lay movie watcher, i might as well be scorcese.
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Yep, and many times they are blinded by their own arrogance, often with disasterous results.
you mistake arrogance for competence.
This post was edited on 2/9/12 at 6:12 pm
Posted on 2/9/12 at 6:12 pm to H-Town Tiger
quote:
I can show you pictures of Wes Welker catching hundreds of passes from Tom brady. He dropped a crucial one in the SB on Suday, is it then your conclusion that he dropped it on purpose?
really, really dumb analogy.
Posted on 2/9/12 at 6:13 pm to udtiger
I didn't get to weigh in on this the first time the thread was hanging around, but since it's back...she dropped it on purpose, no doubt in my mind.
Posted on 2/9/12 at 6:16 pm to xavierTIGER
quote:
she dropped it on purpose, no doubt in my mind.
and there's a reason for that.
because every bit of structure in the movie supports it. it's not just that you're ilke hmmmmmmm....
it's because the movie is constructed in a way to MAKE this obvious to you without you thinking it.
Posted on 2/9/12 at 6:21 pm to LSU Fan 90812
quote:
I can show you pictures of Wes Welker catching hundreds of passes from Tom brady. He dropped a crucial one in the SB on Suday, is it then your conclusion that he dropped it on purpose?
really, really dumb analogy.
Well, his brother was covering him wasn't he?
I think you guys need a distraction.
Posted on 2/9/12 at 6:24 pm to LSU Fan 90812
quote:
People don't truly understand when they're missing the point, or an author's intention
then find where the author's said it.
quote:
always feel bad for them. it's not condescension really. it's just genuine sympathy akin to when people can't take context clues in social situations.
there are only a few things i'm truly good at, but reading/film comprehension is one of them.
Its extremely condesending. Are you at all familar with the term confirmation basis? You are apparently a big fan of the classic story structure and will see it in everything. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
Posted on 2/9/12 at 6:29 pm to LSU Fan 90812
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you mistake arrogance for competence.
Nope, you have it backwards. You think your expertice makes you right in all cases. Now in something like interperting literature/movies, its no big deal, but in mnay other aspects, just trusting "experts" has had disasterous results, over and over and over again.
There is a great line from the moive the Pirates of Silicon Valley.
Success is a menace, it tricks smart people into think they can't be wrong.
This post was edited on 2/9/12 at 6:32 pm
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