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LSU Football Receives Praise for Academic Scores Among Bowl Teams
Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:09 am
Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:09 am
LSU FOOTBALL RECEIVES PRAISE FOR ACADEMIC SCORES AMONG BOWL TEAMS
Much like its performance on the field, LSU received high rankings in the classroom in a study released Monday of the 70 Football Bowl Subdivision schools that will participate in the upcoming college football bowl season.
LSU ranks eighth among the 70 bowl teams in Graduation Success Rate and tied for 12th among all bowl teams in the Academic Progress Rate.
The report by the University of Central Florida’s Institute for Diversity and Ethics in Sport notes an overall Graduation Success Rate (GSR) improvement from 67 percent to 68 percent for students on the 70 bowl teams. LSU’s GSR this year is well above average at 77 percent.
LSU’s mark of 77 ranks second among all Southeastern Conference schools behind only Vanderbilt.
Also, for the second straight year 99 percent of schools in bowl games received a score higher than the target 925 on the NCAA’s four-year Academic Progress Rate (APR). Teams with a four-year APR of 925 or below face penalties including loss of scholarships. LSU’s APR this year is 966, its highest score since the NCAA began compiling the data in 2003-04.
“If I was an advisor of athletes on a college campus, I would feel good about myself overall,’’ said primary study author Richard Lapchick. “One of the things about the report is that if you do well, it helps you stand out. If you don’t do well, hopefully the motivation is to continue to do better.’’
Lapchick pointed out that, unlike past years when BCS title game teams often had less than stellar academic credentials, both of this year’s participants — LSU and Alabama — rank high, with APRs of 966 and 963, respectively. LSU graduates 77 percent of its players and Alabama graduates 69 percent of its players.
Lapchick said that, based on the poor overall record of bowl teams a decade ago, he wouldn’t have thought that the teams competing in the national championship would have such strong academic credentials this fast.
“That brought a big smile to my face,’’ he said.
Much like its performance on the field, LSU received high rankings in the classroom in a study released Monday of the 70 Football Bowl Subdivision schools that will participate in the upcoming college football bowl season.
LSU ranks eighth among the 70 bowl teams in Graduation Success Rate and tied for 12th among all bowl teams in the Academic Progress Rate.
The report by the University of Central Florida’s Institute for Diversity and Ethics in Sport notes an overall Graduation Success Rate (GSR) improvement from 67 percent to 68 percent for students on the 70 bowl teams. LSU’s GSR this year is well above average at 77 percent.
LSU’s mark of 77 ranks second among all Southeastern Conference schools behind only Vanderbilt.
Also, for the second straight year 99 percent of schools in bowl games received a score higher than the target 925 on the NCAA’s four-year Academic Progress Rate (APR). Teams with a four-year APR of 925 or below face penalties including loss of scholarships. LSU’s APR this year is 966, its highest score since the NCAA began compiling the data in 2003-04.
“If I was an advisor of athletes on a college campus, I would feel good about myself overall,’’ said primary study author Richard Lapchick. “One of the things about the report is that if you do well, it helps you stand out. If you don’t do well, hopefully the motivation is to continue to do better.’’
Lapchick pointed out that, unlike past years when BCS title game teams often had less than stellar academic credentials, both of this year’s participants — LSU and Alabama — rank high, with APRs of 966 and 963, respectively. LSU graduates 77 percent of its players and Alabama graduates 69 percent of its players.
Lapchick said that, based on the poor overall record of bowl teams a decade ago, he wouldn’t have thought that the teams competing in the national championship would have such strong academic credentials this fast.
“That brought a big smile to my face,’’ he said.
This post was edited on 12/7/11 at 8:15 am
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Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:12 am to Russianblue
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This post was edited on 12/7/11 at 8:22 am
Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:14 am to sicboy
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Don't use all caps in your thread title. Good way to get it anchored
I think the admins can make an exception for this one. Nothing wrong with being excited about this good news.
Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:15 am to Russianblue
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70 Football Bowl Subdivision schools that will participate in the upcoming college football bowl season.
not to get off topic....but thats freaking ridiculous
Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:16 am to sicboy
Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:19 am to Russianblue
That's good news but, how much value is there in merely graduating? How many have a degree but really have learned little to nothing?
As an aside, wouldn't it benefit a school and it's players to require, as a condition of their scholarship, that they take a few public speaking classes?
As an aside, wouldn't it benefit a school and it's players to require, as a condition of their scholarship, that they take a few public speaking classes?
Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:27 am to Jake88
quote:being an LSU football player + graduating with a degree from LSU = plenty of open doors in Louisiana
That's good news but, how much value is there in merely graduating?
Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:29 am to Jake88
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That's good news but, how much value is there in merely graduating? How many have a degree but really have learned little to nothing?
so what's new with that? a degree is a door opener only and always has been. the gist of being successful is the character of the individual. sports is a great teacher of character. not the only teacher, but a great one nonetheless. it is always sad when i see a college graduate tending bar because he/she can't find the job they think they should have. jobs are out there and it is the kid's responsibility to go find them, whereever they may be. i had to leave BR to Philadelphia to find one in '73 and i damn sure started at the bottom. i just have no sympathy for those that half arse try to find one and then whine about it.
Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:33 am to LSU GrandDad
quote:Amen!
so what's new with that? a degree is a door opener only and always has been. the gist of being successful is the character of the individual. sports is a great teacher of character. not the only teacher, but a great one nonetheless. it is always sad when i see college graduate tending bar because he/she can't find the job they think they should have. jobs are out there and it is the kid's responsibility to go find them, whereever they may be. i had to leave BR to Philadelphia to find one in '73 and i damn sure started at the bottom. i just have no sympathy for those that half arse try to find one and then whine about it.
This post was edited on 12/7/11 at 8:34 am
Posted on 12/7/11 at 9:19 am to rileytiger
i think the point is that in comparison to our competitors, we have done relatively well. i think that to perform at this high of a level in football is never a matter of talent alone. it takes a LOAD of determination, competitiveness, positive decision-making and intestinal fortitude to go from making a 92% A (3rd in SEC or so) to a 100% A+ top of the class NUMBER 1 nationally (BCS Championship Bound). That's what is being done on the football field.
there is no doubt whatsoever that some of the lessons these guys have learned from their coaches who have pushed them to achieve at such a high level on the field has translated into some additional success in the classroom.
you are right, there's no way to tell what hard skills a kid has actually learned, but i think it is fair to deduce that they will leave college having learned myriad life lessons that will serve them very well and will make successful men out of many kids who never would have otherwise had a chance. the degree may be just a symbol and not carry anything other than intangible value, but many of these kids know how to work and work HARD. hell, as an employer, that's 90% of the battle right there. and if they are doing it significantly better than their peers, they should be applauded.
there is no doubt whatsoever that some of the lessons these guys have learned from their coaches who have pushed them to achieve at such a high level on the field has translated into some additional success in the classroom.
you are right, there's no way to tell what hard skills a kid has actually learned, but i think it is fair to deduce that they will leave college having learned myriad life lessons that will serve them very well and will make successful men out of many kids who never would have otherwise had a chance. the degree may be just a symbol and not carry anything other than intangible value, but many of these kids know how to work and work HARD. hell, as an employer, that's 90% of the battle right there. and if they are doing it significantly better than their peers, they should be applauded.
Posted on 12/7/11 at 9:22 am to Jake88
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That's good news but, how much value is there in merely graduating? How many have a degree but really have learned little to nothing?
As an aside, wouldn't it benefit a school and it's players to require, as a condition of their scholarship, that they take a few public speaking classes?
Most of our players I hear speak, actually seem to speak pretty well for 18-22 year old kids.
If they get a degree, it's up to them as to what they do with it.
A degree from LSU, having lettered on the football team, will open more than a few doors for anyone.
Posted on 12/7/11 at 9:29 am to Russianblue
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Richard Lapchick
Posted on 12/7/11 at 9:32 am to Rekrul
Get to parents of all recruits asap (LOL) 
Posted on 12/7/11 at 9:41 am to TutHillTiger
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Get to parents of all recruits asap (LOL)
Why laugh? This is an awesome recruiting aid. Some parents might be assuming a pro career, but even then, an injury can change that.
Kudos to LSU and the student/athletes for this achievement.
Posted on 12/7/11 at 9:44 am to TutHillTiger
FWIW, I didn't learn much at LSU that actually helped me professionally...most real work skills were learned on the job in my case. Frankly, I could have not graduated at all and still have learned what I needed on the job. But that little piece of paper called a diploma opened a lot of doors and made it much easier to get a first job, and I got paid more than I would have been paid without it.
That said, it is fantastic that the team's graduation rate is so high. Very nice to hear.
That said, it is fantastic that the team's graduation rate is so high. Very nice to hear.
Posted on 12/7/11 at 9:44 am to Jake88
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How many have a degree but really have learned little to nothing?
I got a degree and didn't learn shite, even though I had good grades and didn't have to cheat. Most teachers are just awful and teach straight out of the book anyways. Undergrad degrees are overrated and not as valuable as they used to be. It's not about how much you know, but what you know.
Posted on 12/7/11 at 9:49 am to Russianblue
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LSU and Alabama — rank high, with APRs of 966 and 963, respectively.
by a field goal
Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:02 am to Russianblue
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LSU FOOTBALL RECEIVES PRAISE FOR ACADEMIC SCORES AMONG BOWL TEAMS
I heard the blurb mid-season, and I hope it picks up steam in the press. Guys like Gunner Kiel, who care about academics (maybe it's more limited to QBs and OL, but, believe it or not, kids from more middle class backgrounds and/or kids from families who are concerned about academics - a good example is Shaq - are evaluating a school from a "total" college experience), and while we're not going to beat Vandy in an academics competition, to be mentioned, positively, as second only to Vandy in footbal graduation rates is going to resonate - especially coupled with the fact we're playing for all the marbles after winning the SEC championship.
I can't see the downside. It's not like guys from Ole Miss are punking Sam Montgomery ("Ha, ha, you guys have to go to class, MF").
Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:03 am to Tommy Patel
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by a field goal
ETA - PRINT THE T-SHIRTS!!!
This post was edited on 12/7/11 at 10:04 am
Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:26 am to SportTiger1
This has a lot to do with the Coach and his priorities.
After the shady's incident wife walks into the classroom on the first day of class and there are three huge dudes sitting side by side, basically squeezing into the only three chairs on the front row (auditorium style room).
She tells them there's plenty of room, you can spread out. One of them kind of looks down and says " Coach told us we have to sit on the front row"
Kind of says it all.
After the shady's incident wife walks into the classroom on the first day of class and there are three huge dudes sitting side by side, basically squeezing into the only three chairs on the front row (auditorium style room).
She tells them there's plenty of room, you can spread out. One of them kind of looks down and says " Coach told us we have to sit on the front row"
Kind of says it all.
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