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re: Finebaum "Saban Built the Program LSU has Today"
Posted on 11/7/11 at 5:59 pm to Mulat
Posted on 11/7/11 at 5:59 pm to Mulat
NO - he is not. If it were that easy, what happened to Notre Dame or Southern California?
How about Florida? Michigan?
Tough as hell to stay on top. Now we did take a 2 years step back but it moved forward last year and we are on a roll.
How about Florida? Michigan?
Tough as hell to stay on top. Now we did take a 2 years step back but it moved forward last year and we are on a roll.
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Posted on 11/7/11 at 6:06 pm to beco
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LSU built the Saban that Alabama has today!!!!
Posted on 11/7/11 at 6:09 pm to Taxing Authority
Is he also responsible for the great success of the Dolphins this year? Not so sure if you can take one without the other....
This post was edited on 11/7/11 at 6:10 pm
Posted on 11/7/11 at 6:24 pm to dukke v
Sorry PJ, you're wrong. A lot goes into building a football program. Saban did a lot, but he did not build it. DiNardo, Emmert and others laid a foundatuon for Saban. Saban took the LSU job because he knew the pieces were there to win big and get him what he wanted, an NFL job with total control. He did a lot fo LSU, but he is not responsible for where we are now.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 6:28 pm to Mulat
LSU built the coaching legend Saban is today.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 6:40 pm to ATLTiger
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this is just as crazy as the earlier remark about Saban winning with inferior talent. Dinardo left Saban a lot of talent, just as Saban did with Les.
I know we had talent and Les used it better that Saban. But having only 11 recruits is like getting a flat and by the time you fix it you have to catch up again.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 6:44 pm to mattchewbocca
So does Mike Shula take credit for laying the foundation at Bama?
Posted on 11/7/11 at 6:53 pm to Chrome
Hell yeah Shula doesn't get credit for some reason. Oh yeah because Saban is a God to the fans of Alabama.
Here are the fact.
1. Saban is a dick.
2. LSU is #1.
3. Alabama is not #1 BECAUSE of LSU.
4. Saban's stupid I wanna be Les Miles envy cost his team. Both of Satan's gambles failed miserably.
5. Last year LSU beat a better Alabama team due to coaching.
6. Miles is the better coach!
Here are the fact.
1. Saban is a dick.
2. LSU is #1.
3. Alabama is not #1 BECAUSE of LSU.
4. Saban's stupid I wanna be Les Miles envy cost his team. Both of Satan's gambles failed miserably.
5. Last year LSU beat a better Alabama team due to coaching.
6. Miles is the better coach!
Posted on 11/7/11 at 6:54 pm to Mulat
He restored the program, yes. If it weren't for Saban we probably wouldn't have Les right now, but everything about the program right now is Les Miles'
Posted on 11/7/11 at 6:58 pm to tubucoco
To build a program is one thing, to maintain one is a completely different animal.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 7:12 pm to H-Town Tiger
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He did a lot fo LSU, but he is not responsible for where we are now.
I give Emmret alot of credit for this. BUT YOU are the FOOL if you think Saban did not put LSU on the map as a national power.
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Saban did a lot, but he did not build it.
We were at the ASHES stage when Saban got here.As far as being a GREAT PROGRAM. Gerry Had his shot and BLEW IT. Saban Did not.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 7:20 pm to pointman
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From what I understand Skip Bergman hired Saban. Bergman built the program. I could be wrong.
Saban was hired by Joe Dean in 1999, two years before Bertman became the athletic director.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 7:23 pm to trackfan
emmert led the search to hire saban as "string music" joe had hired hallman (passing over spurrier) & dinardo
This post was edited on 11/7/11 at 7:24 pm
Posted on 11/7/11 at 7:26 pm to Mulat
Saban Built the Program the Miami Dophins have Today!
Posted on 11/7/11 at 7:28 pm to Mulat
He was saying this all last week and will continue to say it.
IMO, ya got to give a bit of a nod to DiNardo. When he had Carl Reese and Morris Watts, they were bringing back the magic.
He started working to put the recruiting wall back up around Louisiana.
I admire coach Saban, but LSU deserves some credit for going and getting him out of Michigan St.
Saban didn't invent football in the State of Louisiana, but he sure was a valuable asset for us.
F-baum's tune will never change. LSU is Alabama State Champions for 2011! Print the shirt.
IMO, ya got to give a bit of a nod to DiNardo. When he had Carl Reese and Morris Watts, they were bringing back the magic.
He started working to put the recruiting wall back up around Louisiana.
I admire coach Saban, but LSU deserves some credit for going and getting him out of Michigan St.
Saban didn't invent football in the State of Louisiana, but he sure was a valuable asset for us.
F-baum's tune will never change. LSU is Alabama State Champions for 2011! Print the shirt.
This post was edited on 11/7/11 at 7:30 pm
Posted on 11/7/11 at 7:30 pm to H-Town Tiger
it's alway easier to build because no one expects you to do great things and competition tends to overlook you. Keeping a program at championship level is more difficult
Posted on 11/7/11 at 7:30 pm to Stuttgart Tiger
Its pretty baffling how many LSU refuse to give Saban at least some credit for where the program is today
Posted on 11/7/11 at 7:32 pm to dukke v
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We were at the ASHES stage when Saban got here.
The third and fourth seasons, prior to Saban's hiring, combined for 19 wins and top #13 finishes both years. Those 2 seasons (yes, under Dinardo) were better than 3 of Saban's 5 seasons at LSU (including his last).
And Curley left Dinardo with significantly less material and even fewer intangibles (i.e. a belief we could win).
The 1997 team, particularly defeated the #1 team in the country, and was a single field goal against Auburn from being maybe a top 7 or 8 team.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 7:35 pm to josh336
Saban certainly needs credit for the work he did. I don't hate him at all. I still don't like to see him in that script A.
But Nick Saban certainly isn't the starting point for LSU football.
I'm sure F-Baum's theory is, "first there was a pile of shite, the Lord Saban molded it with his hands to make a championship football team."
If any coach wants to make that name for themselves then they need to go turn around Vandy.
But Nick Saban certainly isn't the starting point for LSU football.
I'm sure F-Baum's theory is, "first there was a pile of shite, the Lord Saban molded it with his hands to make a championship football team."
If any coach wants to make that name for themselves then they need to go turn around Vandy.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 7:39 pm to trackfan
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Saban was hired by Joe Dean in 1999, two years before Bertman became the athletic director.
Sorry my brother - that decision was taken completely out of his hands. They appointed the search committee and Joe was allowed to participate in the process, interviews, evaluations, etc., but Mark Emmert made all of the decisions regarding the hiring of Saban, including making Saban the first offeree, etc.
(BTW, it was a complete accident - because of his "tendencies" - someone on the search committee contacted Sexton to develop the list of potential candidates - they said, "Jimmy, would Tubberville be interested in interviewing for the LSU job?" - as he had just made the famous pine box jump from Ole Miss to Auburn. Sexton said, "No, but Nick Saban would.")
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