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re: Jordan Jefferson to take the Stand
Posted on 9/21/11 at 9:55 pm to Doc Fenton
Posted on 9/21/11 at 9:55 pm to Doc Fenton
quote:Really?
It's hard to believe that prosecutors would be so incompetent to just randomly charge guys based on the most exciting rumors out there.
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but at this point, I suppose it's possible that the B.R. prosecutors just Nifong-ed this thing from start to finish.
Bingo, the detectives rushed the process too much. Lowry and the girl that was with him came back to the scene an hour after the cops showed up, that's plenty of time for them to cook up some kind of story. Also seems a little weird that the only two people arrested both have JJ for their initials. Maybe the girl didn't see them do it, but heard somebody yelling out the initials and mistook it for something else. The vast majority of wrongful arrests are because of witness mis-identification testimony. Also a little weird that the "victims" needed an attorney the next day, hell they had an attorney way before the players.
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Posted on 9/21/11 at 10:07 pm to Choctaw
Team Sweep already assembled, and got us a starting QB
Posted on 9/21/11 at 10:08 pm to whodidthat
word has it there are multiple eye witnesses who all saw different things
it may be impossible to tell who is telling the truth
that is what the defense is banking on
it may be impossible to tell who is telling the truth
that is what the defense is banking on
Posted on 9/21/11 at 10:08 pm to 756
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grand jury is going to hear witnesses who directly contradict each other they will have to decide who they believe
Not really. All they have to do is agree that the confusion requires a full trial, and issue an indictment.
Posted on 9/21/11 at 10:10 pm to davidsheroes
can't they just wait until football season is fuking over?
Posted on 9/21/11 at 10:12 pm to RobbBobb
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Not really. All they have to do is agree that the confusion requires a full trial, and issue an indictment.
you may have hit the nail on the head-
why should they make a decision when they can pass the buck like everyone else?
Posted on 9/21/11 at 10:16 pm to 756
quote:Are Lowery and Long testifying?
IMO there will be some people who will be dumb enough to lie on the stand-
Posted on 9/21/11 at 10:17 pm to 756
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Maybe the girl didn't see them do it, but heard somebody yelling out the initials and mistook it for something else.
I heard in the beginning that someone that went to Catholic High with Lowery recognized Josh Johns and yelled out "hey that is Josh Johns" and that is how she got his name.
There are a lot of people assuming that Jefferson gave contradicting statements to the police, these same people need to look into the statement Lowery gave police on September 4 when he said the truck that hit him swerved onto the shoulder and hit him, after continuing to be question he recanted his statement and said he lied.
Posted on 9/21/11 at 10:19 pm to 756
this whole affair has been ridiculous
if jordan jefferson was not the lsu quarterback, nothing would have been done the police or the da....it a damn bar fight....witnesses drunk = no way to prove case beyond reasonable doubt
shame on baton rouge and the baton rouge police department....jordan is getting a RAW F---- DEAL
if jordan jefferson was not the lsu quarterback, nothing would have been done the police or the da....it a damn bar fight....witnesses drunk = no way to prove case beyond reasonable doubt
shame on baton rouge and the baton rouge police department....jordan is getting a RAW F---- DEAL
Posted on 9/21/11 at 10:21 pm to bree
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these same people need to look into the statement Lowery gave police on September 4 when he said the truck that hit him swerved onto the shoulder and hit him, after continuing to be question he recanted his statement and said he lied.
Wont even be mentioned to this Grand Jury
The charges are on the JJs. The Lowery incident has no bearing. You would also have to have a police report where the female accuser misled police? She also ID'd JJ
Posted on 9/21/11 at 10:30 pm to RobbBobb
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You would also have to have a police report where the female accuser misled police? She also ID'd JJ
Speaking of that police report, I was surprised to hear Bienvenue say in his interview yesterday that Lowery was on the ground and didn't know who kicked him, and that JJ was identified by other witnesses.
I don't have the report saved anywhere, but I'm almost positive Lowery told the officer in the report that it was Jefferson and Johns who attacked him.
Posted on 9/21/11 at 10:31 pm to Antonio Moss
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It's not prosecutors; its the BRPD.
The prosecutors never officially accepted the charges, hence why this is going to the Grand Jury.
Yep, this case seems to be a real big "egg in the face" situation for the BRPD and the police chief who wanted his 15 minutes. Well, he got them, and if the JJs are exonerated, I'd imagine regret is going to really sink in and probably already has.
Posted on 9/21/11 at 10:35 pm to Doc Fenton
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It's hard to believe that prosecutors would be so incompetent to just randomly charge guys based on the most exciting rumors out there.
It's not the prosecutors who charged them, it's the BRPD. And it's very believable they would be that incompetent.
Posted on 9/21/11 at 10:36 pm to davidsheroes
Can someone please explain something for me. If Jefferson did not do it and all these people were out there fighting and screaming, then WHO DID IT? Didn't people see who did it???
Posted on 9/21/11 at 10:37 pm to 756
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you may have hit the nail on the head-
why should they make a decision when they can pass the buck like everyone else?
because that's not their job. their job is not to prove innocence or guilt but to say whether there's enough evidence to warrant a trial. the former is the job of a jury. i wouldn't be surprised at all to see this go either way, although i'm leaning towards it not going to trial.
Posted on 9/21/11 at 10:42 pm to TenTex
This shite needs to be quiet till football season is over. I don't want anything we have right now to be messed up over this shite.
Posted on 9/21/11 at 10:52 pm to filmmaker45
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This shite needs to be quiet till football season is over. I don't want anything we have right now to be messed up over this shite.
agreed...bad enough to lose the o coordinator and have these dumbasses pull this shite just before the season starts, but now it won't go away...
Posted on 9/21/11 at 10:59 pm to Choctaw
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TEAM SWEEP.....ASSEMBLE!!!!!
present boss!!!
Posted on 9/21/11 at 11:04 pm to TenTex
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Can someone please explain something for me. If Jefferson did not do it and all these people were out there fighting and screaming, then WHO DID IT? Didn't people see who did it???
Too logical. Most would rather spend time playing Internet Lawyer.
Posted on 9/21/11 at 11:04 pm to filmmaker45
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This shite needs to be quiet till football season is over
I'm afraid the judicial process will top the college football process every time.
This appears to be more of a distraction for us fans than it is for the players. imo
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