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re: If JJ does Redshirt
Posted on 9/19/11 at 10:49 pm to Housplants
Posted on 9/19/11 at 10:49 pm to Housplants
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He supposedly graduates in December. If so, he can transfer anywhere without having to sit out.
Interesting - that does open things up. I'm sure there would be a team in need of a QB. Still, I'd JJ to leave college football as a Tiger.
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Posted on 9/19/11 at 10:51 pm to Rudy40
News flash guys the SEC doesn't allow the graduate transfer thing to apply for playing immediately, so if JJ were to transfer to an SEC school he wouldn't be able to play immediately even if he had graduated.
Russell Wilson SI Article on Graduate Transfer Rules
Russell Wilson SI Article on Graduate Transfer Rules
Posted on 9/19/11 at 10:53 pm to tiggerthetooth
All because of Jeremiah Masoli being a huge criminal.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 10:54 pm to Sabertooth
I would not consider the younger Jefferson's recruitment in making any decisions regarding Jordan. One potential recruit will not make or break a class.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 10:54 pm to Bonjourno
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Not if he enrolls in a graduate program not offered at LSU.
You can't do this anymore. Russel Wilson just made it through to Wisconsin before the rule got changed.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 10:56 pm to Sabertooth
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If JJ is getting screwed, this will not sit well with family
So, if he comes back next year and does not start, do you think his brother comes here?
If he comes back this season and does not start, do you think his family will not think he is getting screwed.
If his brother's college choice will be made based on whether his family is going to be satisfied, Miles will either have to make JJ the starter this season or next, and most believe that would put one of those seasons in jeopardy. Miles surely will not do this.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 10:58 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
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You can't do this anymore. Russel Wilson just made it through to Wisconsin before the rule got changed.
Sounds like the SEC won't allow transfers in, but transfers out to non-SEC teams sounds ok still.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 11:04 pm to coachjeaux
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If JJ does Redshirt
This would be really bad IMO.
Miles himself personally recruited Mett. This would be a really bad move, redshirting JJ. If I know this, I promise you Miles does.
He'll do the right thing, I have no doubt.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 11:08 pm to la_birdman
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This would be really bad IMO.
Miles himself personally recruited Mett. This would be a really bad move, redshirting JJ. If I know this, I promise you Miles does.
He'll do the right thing, I have no doubt.
That's why I say the only way Miles and LSU can win in this situation is to let him back on the team with the clear understanding that there IS NO QB controversy. JJ needs to understand and accept his role as a spot player. If that goes well, then it can only help us.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 11:16 pm to Maximus
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he should go shine at SU
Where he should have begun and ended his career IMO
Posted on 9/19/11 at 11:16 pm to Griffmanjoe
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That's why I say the only way Miles and LSU can win in this situation is to let him back on the team with the clear understanding that there IS NO QB controversy. JJ needs to understand and accept his role as a spot player. If that goes well, then it can only help us.
How do you see that playing out?
The guy that has been the starter for the past 2 seasons and who was named the starter (which means he earned it again in the eyes of the staff) is suspended from the team for something he didn't do* only to be reinstated mid way through the season with the clear understanding that he has no option to redshirt and contribute for a full senior season in 2012 AND he'll have no shot at even earning back when he had earned for the past three seasons? Basically, that despite the fact that he was innocent he ought to just kindly frick off...
Yeah...that ought to go over great with the rest of the team.
*Assumes his innocence and reinstatement to the team.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 11:18 pm to Griffmanjoe
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JJ needs to understand and accept his role as a spot player.
Agreed.
I think he knows he messed up and would take what Miles offered him. It ain't gonna be the starting job, guaranteed. If JJ doesn't like that, he'll sit and not play at all and that'll be it.
I highly doubt JJ would say, "No, I won't take that. I want to start." Or something along those lines.
We've all done something we've regretted.... I'm sure this kid wants this shite to be over and done.
I can't see him being redshirted though.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 11:20 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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That's why I say the only way Miles and LSU can win in this situation is to let him back on the team with the clear understanding that there IS NO QB controversy. JJ needs to understand and accept his role as a spot player.
JJ would ride the bench most of the time. He'd better off to sit out this season and transfer to play somewhere else next year.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 11:21 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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Yeah...that ought to go over great with the rest of the team.
As opposed to letting him back on the team and opening the competition back up? I think that would create a total shitstorm.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 11:22 pm to TriumphTiger
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You can't do this anymore. Russel Wilson just made it through to Wisconsin before the rule got changed.
Sounds like the SEC won't allow transfers in, but transfers out to non-SEC teams sounds ok still.
Correct. As I stated,this graduate transfer rule is going to change in the SEC starting Oct. 1st according to that SI article above. So only in the SEC as far as I know are you not allowed to play immediately regardless of graduate program availability. Jeremiah Masoli debacle is supposedly a big reason for this rule being changed by the SEC.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 11:32 pm to Griffmanjoe
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As opposed to letting him back on the team and opening the competition back up? I think that would create a total shitstorm.
I disagree. JJ was the starter the past 2 seasons...a job the staff felt he earned. He had earned it again this season and unless something had happened thus far would currently be your starter going into Morgantown this Saturday. While most LSU fans seem to hate the guy, the staff does not. He is not some also ran in the QB derby...he was the leader of the pack, such as it was.
If he is cleared of the charges and reinstated, to do so but make it clear he has no shot to actually regain what he had earned over the past three seasons is akin to telling him to walk away even though he had not lost his job on the field.
You do that, and you'll absolutely lose guys in the locker who will assume there but for the grace of Thor go I. All it would take to ruin a career is an unfounded accusation that leads to a suspension and you're toast.
I'm not saying he should walk in and start...and I'm not even saying he could regain the starter's role given the amount of practice time he's missed. But to openly tell the guy he won't even be given a shot to earn it back means you may as well have kicked him off the team in the first place rather than waiting it out.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 11:36 pm to coachjeaux
Posted on 9/19/11 at 11:38 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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JJ was the starter the past 2 seasons...a job the staff felt he earned. He had earned it again this season and unless something had happened thus far would currently be your starter going into Morgantown this Saturday. While most LSU fans seem to hate the guy, the staff does not. He is not some also ran in the QB derby...he was the leader of the pack, such as it was.
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I'm not saying he should walk in and start...
Sounds like you are...
Posted on 9/19/11 at 11:39 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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I'm not saying he should walk in and start...and I'm not even saying he could regain the starter's role given the amount of practice time he's missed. But to openly tell the guy he won't even be given a shot to earn it back means you may as well have kicked him off the team in the first place rather than waiting it out
How would it benefit JJ to join the team at this point of the season. If he was cleared of the charges this week (which is a tremendous long shot), he would not be ready to play in a game for at least a couple of weeks. In addition, his chances of being the starter at that point are almost nil. He would not have any opportunity to play until the season is half over under the best of circumstances (for him).
It seems the smartest thing he could do is redshirt this season.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 11:41 pm to coachjeaux
he should get a shot somewhere to finish his career.
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