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re: As the season draws closer and closer, Oregon fans get crazier and crazier

Posted on 6/2/11 at 9:11 am to
Posted by cajunjj
Madison, AL
Member since May 2008
7427 posts
Posted on 6/2/11 at 9:11 am to
We are not in the east side of the SEC a-hole!
Posted by MetryTyger
Metro NOLA, LA
Member since Jan 2004
15608 posts
Posted on 6/2/11 at 9:20 am to
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DucksflyinPAC
And well, you don't really want to get into Scheduling debates because when you look at past schedules for the last many years it looks ugly for the SEC compared to the PAC- we are talking the easiest scheduling of any Conference compared to the hardest, just saying...



Easiest vs the hardest? REALLY!?

What you do not realize, oh Webhopper, is that, in the last 10 years, SEC teams have played (REGULAR season):Hawaii, Washington, Washington State, Oregon State, Cal, UCLA, USC, Fresno St, Arizona State, Arizona, Colorado, Boise State, Texas, Texas A&M, Houston, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Kansas State, Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, Northwestern, Virginia Tech, West Virginia, North Carolina, Clemson, Florida State, Miami(F), Miami(O), South Florida, Central Florida, Georgia Tech, Louisville, Wake Forest, and Southern Miss.

LSU has played TWELVE games against the above just by itself since 2000, five on the road (incl UO and WVA this year), and including home and homes with: Arizona, Va.Tech, Washington, and West Va. Just sayin.'

So I ask, WTF are you talking about ????????



On top of that, the SECCG usually pits two top twenty teams at least; and a few times, two top ten or top five teams.

Historical bonus:
In addition, if you're interested just for bowel movements and guffaws, prior to 2000, LSU played Notre Dame in 1998, 1997, 1986, 1985, 1981, 1971, 1970. We played Southern Cal in 1984 and 1979,
Florida State and Texas A&M thoughout the 80's and 90's, Miami(F), Colorado, Arizona, North Carolina, Ohio State, Indiana, Nebraska, Wisconsin, Colorado State, Southern Miss, Oregon,
Oregon State, etc in the 80's and 70's.

Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
77445 posts
Posted on 6/2/11 at 9:24 am to
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It's amazing how playing 4 creampuffs can bump up your win-loss record. Thus you become ranked. So your conference plays each other and gets credit as being ranked teams for beating Creampuff State? So your teams are ranked because they beat creampuff state? Oh, how awesome they all must be.


Yeah your right...LSU has played Oregon St., Arizona, Arizona St., and Washington over the past few years...we really need to stop scheduling these creampuffs...
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
31958 posts
Posted on 6/2/11 at 9:57 am to
guys, don't feed the trolls. there seem to be some good Duck folks here mixed with monkey dicks.

the more they rant, the more they reveal their doubt.
Posted by MetryTyger
Metro NOLA, LA
Member since Jan 2004
15608 posts
Posted on 6/2/11 at 10:00 am to
You are correct Charles. Most of them seem to be good guys - DucksFly just was not aware :)
But he's cool.....
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10123 posts
Posted on 6/2/11 at 10:05 am to
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And you likewise just cherry picked a few
No cherry picking. Those were traditionally decent teams over the past 5-10 years played in '10 other than those he mentioned. Like you or somebody else mentioned, theres no forecasting where a team might stand when you finally kickoff.
Posted by goducks75
Member since Nov 2010
52 posts
Posted on 6/2/11 at 11:14 am to
If you guys struggle against a North Carolina team last year that had all its best players suspended then you guys aren't beating us by 30+ as many on here seem to believe (though I have seen some rational people on here). And you guys call us crazy....

Not saying you can't or won't win. In fact I think you guys (at least today anyway) will likely win but no way in hell will it be by THAT margin.... More like somewhere between 3 and 14 points if I had to guess (both teams will be rusty/sloppy in the first game and make mistakes as most if not all teams do even against cream puffs, let alone in a game featuring two talented likely top 5 teams). The past 2 seasons in the opening game LSU theoretically should have won by at least 3 TDs against both UW (coming off 0-12, enough said) and UNC due to the talent difference (I'm sorry I know UNC was ranked but come on when all but one of their best players get suspended, you have to take advantage of that...) between both of them and you guys (the same difference in talent I've seen quite a few on here claim over Oregon) but it didn't even happen in those cases where those gaps in talent actually existed...

I'm all for rational discussion but I feel like 90% of the time (at least in threads about this game) I'm on here I see a bunch of pissing matches and stupid arguments, some started by our fans and some by yours but it's really annoying in either case....
This post was edited on 6/2/11 at 11:20 am
Posted by bojabu
Member since Sep 2010
1275 posts
Posted on 6/2/11 at 11:23 am to
Hey, we played UNC with every single player of theirs who didn't break NCAA rules. If they had been guys of better character, they wouldn't have signed with UNC in the first place, they'd be spread around the nation with different teams. Hell, we might have signed some of them. But as luck would have it, CLM laid the fricking law down on Perrililloueax and showed recruits and current players no one is above the rules, 5 star Qb of the future, or not.

So if UNC was short some players, it's their own damn fault, not LSU's. CLM picked the best players for our team, not the best players.
Posted by GoDucks349
Westfir
Member since Jan 2011
420 posts
Posted on 6/2/11 at 11:29 am to
Goducks75, did we have lunch June 24th at Spring Creek Coffee House? LOL

AUHS class of '65
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
77445 posts
Posted on 6/2/11 at 11:44 am to
You Ducks continually bring up the UNC game with the suspended players...but just like the Oregon St game you all keep bringing up the 3 missed extra points failing to mention LSU's 2 missed FGs and TD called back...

You all keep mentioning the UNC game like it was a low scoring affair when LSU put up 30 pts in the game and over 300 yds of offense...

It was LSU's secondary play that played poorly that day and UNC's missing best players were on the defense not the offense...

And don't come in here saying..."well if their best players were in the game they would have won" huh no...if that were the case the game is entirely different from play calls, schemes etc., no one knows how it would have turned out...

If you want to go that route then we could say if LSUs secondary plays like it was suppose to then the game is not close...
Posted by MetryTyger
Metro NOLA, LA
Member since Jan 2004
15608 posts
Posted on 6/2/11 at 11:53 am to
[quote]goducks75
As the season draws closer and closer, Oregon fans get crazier and crazier

If you guys struggle against a North Carolina team last year that had all its best players suspended then you guys aren't beating us by 30+ as many on here seem to believe (though I have seen some rational people on here). And you guys call us crazy....

[quote]

We had a 30-10 lead on UNC and were going in to make 37-10 before we let them off the hook and laid down.
If you aren't intimidated by what we did against North Carolina, what about what we did against Alabama, Florida, and Texas A&M ?????????????
Posted by goducks75
Member since Nov 2010
52 posts
Posted on 6/2/11 at 11:56 am to
quote:

GoDucks349

Negatory, I've never been there though I have heard good things about that place as I have family in the Milwaukie/Oregon City area (though I live in the SW Portland area). Just a tad younger too as I'm still in Eugene going to the UO right now (CCHS class of '07).
Posted by goducks75
Member since Nov 2010
52 posts
Posted on 6/2/11 at 12:11 pm to
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If you aren't intimidated by what we did against North Carolina, what about what we did against Alabama, Florida, and Texas A&M ?????????????

Duly noted and I did watch all those impressive games. That said, even with your talent that you still return, a) you lost a few key pieces from last year's team, b) you are installing a new offense (though way less complicated than Crowton's so it may actually be a good thing instead but time will tell there), and c) it's the beginning of the season. Time off from football and switching in new guys at starters (even those that got PT last year) alters the chemistry and thus they usually start off rusty (partly because by that time they've only had pads on for a few weeks and there's always an adjustment period). That's universal for most teams at the start of the year. I expect Oregon to be rusty too hence why I still think you guys win, just not by a huge margin.

Last year can be an indicator of things to come the following year but comparing what you did in mid/end of the season and assuming you'll just pick up right where you left off as if nothing changed at all to start the season doesn't make much sense. It hardly ever happens like that. Should be a good game but I do think both teams will be getting used to playing again and will not quite be at their respective midseason forms last season.
This post was edited on 6/2/11 at 12:15 pm
Posted by GoDucks349
Westfir
Member since Jan 2011
420 posts
Posted on 6/2/11 at 12:20 pm to
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Negatory, I've never been there though I have heard good things about that place as I have family in the Milwaukie/Oregon City area (though I live in the SW Portland area). Just a tad younger too as I'm still in Eugene going to the UO right now (CCHS class of '07).


Go ya. You just write like my friend talks. He's one of the founders of eDuck. I actually live in SW near PSU. Just sold my place and I'm retiring up near Oakridge. Moving June 13th!!

Yea, I'm a "tad" older..... LOL I remember getting electricity and indoor plumbing and went to a one room school. LOL

I've got a granddaughter that just got accepted to PSU. Tried to get her to become a Duck, she's just young and wants to be close to her "BF". Stupid reason in my opinion.
Posted by Suck Out West
Phoenix, AZ
Member since Dec 2006
5932 posts
Posted on 6/2/11 at 12:32 pm to
Most people who follow LSU as I do felt that Crowton was the biggest probem on offense. He has too many packages for each formation. Too much shifting for no apparent reason. He's just too cute & he out thinks himself sometimes. This leads to plays being sent in late, causing confusion & takes time from the QBs presnap reads. Most of the time he has the better athletes....so just line up and run a play. Too much thinking takes away aggressiveness IMO. I think simplifying things will help JJ tremendously.

As far as the game goes, I expect both teams to give up at least 3 TDs. Theres a lot of talk about LSU's bad offense last year & rightly so. But Oregon has to win in shootouts. I watched ASUs offense have a field day and they werent that great last year. Oregon's D was pitful.

31-27 LSU
Posted by GoDucks349
Westfir
Member since Jan 2011
420 posts
Posted on 6/2/11 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

Most people who follow LSU as I do felt that Crowton was the biggest probem on offense. He has too many packages for each formation. Too much shifting for no apparent reason. He's just too cute & he out thinks himself sometimes. This leads to plays being sent in late, causing confusion & takes time from the QBs presnap reads. Most of the time he has the better athletes....so just line up and run a play. Too much thinking takes away aggressiveness IMO. I think simplifying things will help JJ tremendously.

As far as the game goes, I expect both teams to give up at least 3 TDs. Theres a lot of talk about LSU's bad offense last year & rightly so. But Oregon has to win in shootouts. I watched ASUs offense have a field day and they werent that great last year. Oregon's D was pitful.

31-27 LSU


Now that's an interesting opinion on the game. I personally think should LSU's QB get as good as Oregons QB (Dixon) did after Crowton left. The LSU offense will be much much better. I couldn't agree more about Crowton and his offense. It's why Oregon was getting ready to fire him when LSU bailed him out. NEVER understood that hire.

I remember LSU fans telling me at the time that once he had great athletes like LSU has his offense would crush people and the reason he failed at Oregon was a lack of talent.

Personally, I think he is a horrible QB coach. Maybe part of that is the complexity of what he trys. Still that means he should have changed something.
Posted by goducks75
Member since Nov 2010
52 posts
Posted on 6/2/11 at 12:47 pm to
quote:

Go ya. You just write like my friend talks. He's one of the founders of eDuck. I actually live in SW near PSU. Just sold my place and I'm retiring up near Oakridge. Moving June 13th!!

Yea, I'm a "tad" older..... LOL I remember getting electricity and indoor plumbing and went to a one room school. LOL

I've got a granddaughter that just got accepted to PSU. Tried to get her to become a Duck, she's just young and wants to be close to her "BF". Stupid reason in my opinion.



Nice! Oakridge is a nice area. I live out in the Tigard area myself. Nothing wrong with being a tad older though! More wise in my opinion. My dad was class of '68 at CC and was two year's below Joey Harrington's dad and in the same class as his uncle. Funny thing is much of the old part of CC still remains intact so outside of retrofitting and different paint the old wing is pretty much the same as it was back then.

As for your granddaughter choosing the 'stay closer to her boyfriend approach,' it's kind of unfortunate. Not to say that it will not work out as I have seen one case of it working out (though with more than enough rough points) but unfortunately there are way more cases I've seen where it ended up not working out. That said the park blocks are a nice area and it is cheaper to go up there. Eugene is such a nice area though.....
This post was edited on 6/2/11 at 12:49 pm
Posted by goducks75
Member since Nov 2010
52 posts
Posted on 6/2/11 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

Most people who follow LSU as I do felt that Crowton was the biggest probem on offense. He has too many packages for each formation. Too much shifting for no apparent reason. He's just too cute & he out thinks himself sometimes. This leads to plays being sent in late, causing confusion & takes time from the QBs presnap reads. Most of the time he has the better athletes....so just line up and run a play. Too much thinking takes away aggressiveness IMO. I think simplifying things will help JJ tremendously.

As far as the game goes, I expect both teams to give up at least 3 TDs. Theres a lot of talk about LSU's bad offense last year & rightly so. But Oregon has to win in shootouts. I watched ASUs offense have a field day and they werent that great last year. Oregon's D was pitful.

31-27 LSU


I can definitely respect that. ASU's offense was abysmal but while ASU did better than usual that game, Oregon capitalized on Threet's HORRIBLE performance (a few of his turnovers were handed to us on a platter to be sure but a few were also forced). Oregon's defense also improved a bit as the year went on. As much credit as Auburn deserves for dominating on the DL in the NC (which they obviously did), we did do quite an effective job defensively of shutting down Cam better than even most SEC defenses did despite us not having much size. Then again, I think part of it also had to do with both the Auburn and Oregon defenses being so used to practicing against a fast paced offense every day in practice throughout the season. Both defenses played very well most the game against potent offenses....

I think that our defensive unit this year has the potential to be better than last year's defense was as we are putting in players with more physical talent and upside but I am of the belief that you can never underestimate the value of experience and we do lose a bit in that regard (Matthews, Paysinger, and Bair among others). With that said, the people stepping in for the most part had quality reps last year as we used plenty of substitutions, so it's not like we are putting in players that have never played a down at starting positions. We will need to rely on inexperienced players to get quality reps against you guys though and that could potentially be an advantage for the LSU offense.

We definitely understand the Crowton problem as we had to put up with him too. Part of me wishes he were still there rather than Kragthorpe.......
This post was edited on 6/2/11 at 1:03 pm
Posted by MetryTyger
Metro NOLA, LA
Member since Jan 2004
15608 posts
Posted on 6/2/11 at 1:33 pm to
goducks75 - you know your s--t son.
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
12977 posts
Posted on 6/2/11 at 1:39 pm to
LSU's defense gave up more yards per play against Ole Miss than we did against ASU. There were like almost a 100 plays per offense. Oregon gave up 7 points in the second half of that game. Also, Oregon was melting on the field with game temp at 105. Likewise, ASU was the #29 offense, so they weren't exactly minced meat. Given all of that, it was Oregon's worst defensive performance.
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