re: As the season draws closer and closer, Oregon fans get crazier and crazier

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What you do not realize, oh Webhopper, is that, in the last 10 years, SEC teams have played (REGULAR season):Hawaii, Washington, Washington State, Oregon State, Cal, UCLA, USC, Fresno St, Arizona State, Arizona, Colorado, Boise State, Texas, Texas A&M, Houston, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Kansas State, Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, Northwestern, Virginia Tech, West Virginia, North Carolina, Clemson, Florida State, Miami(F), Miami(O), South Florida, Central Florida, Georgia Tech, Louisville, Wake Forest, and Southern Miss. LSU has played TWELVE games against the above just by itself since 2000, five on the road (incl UO and WVA this year), and including home and homes with: Arizona, Va.Tech, Washington, and West Va. Just sayin.' So I ask, WTF are you talking about ????????

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Why does every time a SEC fan gets questioned by all the cupcakes they play the first thing they do is list some major schools they had played? Of course the SEC plays SOME major schools. The problem however is twofold: Its the other 3(or more) cupcakes that you also play each year(on average). AND the number of BIG boys you play each year does not come close to the number the PAC 10 plays. You listed many, and great job doing that research. But now list all the cupcakes(or rather the whole full schedule the whole SEC has played since the BCS(1998)till now too, cupcakes and all.)

You will easily see the SEC plays the most cupcakes. And you will easily see, if you looked at the full PAC 10 schedule in the same time frame, The PAC plays the HARDEST schedule. You showed me quite a few big schools, but look at the PAC's, there are way more, and way LESS cupcakes.

Hey, I don't blame the SEC. It is what has got them in the BCS games more, from padding their schedule with Cupcake buy wins. But don't expect people to not call the SEC out on it.

The PAC has only played a grand total of 38 D-2 schools. That is the single lowest total of ANY SINGLE CONFERENCE IN AMERICA. So playing D-2 schools is not the PAC's rep. However the SEC has played 85 D-2 schools. lol And as far as non BCS schools, (little sisters of the poor) the PAC has played only 225 of them. The SEC has played 317, WHICH IS THE MOST IN CF OF ANY CONFERENCE!

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So I ask, WTF are you talking about ????????

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WTF I am talking about is the facts and truth.
The facts burn and the truth hurts... Click link.
Conference to Conference Data from BCS era up to 2009

Heck, I just checked also on ESPN the schedules that go back to 2002, for USC and UCLA. Did you know USC "on average" played 3 BCS schools each year. Yes sometimes they played 2, but even with the non BCS schools they were on average very hard. And guess what? Not one single D-2 school, unlike the SEC. And for UCLA, very good too, though not as quite. They scheduled on average 2 BCS schools each year and the rest played on average a good quality none BCS team(on average), and like USC - NOT ONE SINGLE D-2 school. The SEC majors in D-2 schools. And when you start to go through every PAC team and then go through every SEC team, the comparisons are NIGHT AND DAY. To suggest otherwise means A) You can not read B) You are a moron C) You like to lie.

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You will easily see the SEC plays the most cupcakes. And you will easily see, if you looked at the full PAC 10 schedule in the same time frame, The PAC plays the HARDEST schedule.

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This would be true if it weren't for all those PAC-12 teams on the schedule...

Only way to really look is how we both play the same teams.

2003: Arizona
LSU 59-13
UO 48-10

2003: Mississippi State
LSU 41-6
UO 42-34

2004: Oregon State
LSU 22-21
UO 21-50

2005: Arizona State
LSU 35-31
UO 31-17

2006: Fresno State
LSU 38-6
UO 31-24

2006: Arizona
LSU 45-3
UO 10-37

5/6 LSU did better against the same team. The defense Oregon fans claims is going to stop us from passing has all but once allowed more ppg then the LSU defense of the same time frame.



Granted these don't mean much because there have been numerous coaching changes on both teams. However, saying that the SEC plays cupcakes and that's a reason that we get into the BCS games is not telling the whole truth. We fight in the toughest conference, and when we go against common opponents we tend to have a little better record.

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goducks75
As the season draws closer and closer, Oregon fans get crazier and crazier

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goducks75 - you know your s--t son.

Why thank you good sir. I try and keep tabs on as many teams as I can. Really enjoyed you guys putting Oklahoma and the Buckeyes in their place since I can't stand either of them (the Stoops family just rubs me the wrong way and Buckeye fans are the most obnoxious I've ever come across).

Despite how much fun everyone pokes at Les for being quirky and just being plain nuts at times, I actually really like the guy. He's always done stuff his way without worrying what other people think and you can definitely tell he strongly prides himself as being a Michigan man in the sense that he conducts himself with class but he adds that gutsy flair to it. The man never runs short on luck it would seem and you gotta hand it to him for finding a way to win as much as he does, though he could still use some work on his clock management skills.

I really can't wait for this game as I think it will be a good matchup

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GoDucks here's the latest Miles anecdote :)
DucksFly - it's cool dude.....




Les Miles makes Tiger roar noises at SEC meetings against MSU's Cowbells (Posted on 6/2/11 at 9:47 a.m.)

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Rules are rules, said LSU coach Les Miles, and artificial noisemakers are not supposed to be allowed, according to NCAA rules.

"I voted against it," Miles said. "I think it's illegal. It should be called illegal. It should not be allowed. It's wrong. Otherwise, we need to get some artificial noisemakers with Tiger roars."

At this point, Miles growled like a Tiger.

"The new rule encourages them not to make noise with the bells at the wrong times," he said. "The league is saying you can cheat, but we're going to have this ability to fine you. I have no idea what the hell that's about."

The vote to allow cowbells again was 10-2, Miles/Alleva was one vote against. I wonder who the other was?

LINK

Is anyone bored yet?

Probably Ole Piss. They'll vote against Moo State on almost anything.

Some teams are willing to schedule good teams. I like when we played UNC and WVU last year. That was fun for me, but I wouldn't want the challenge every year. Way to rough to add an additional 2 BCS teams that are conference contenders when we already have the fight the SEC.

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DucksflyinPAC
As the season draws closer and closer, Oregon fans get crazier and crazier


MetryTyger,
NP, very polite response. I need to do some math though and check some stats because I saw many PAC 4 games OOC. So I need to find out when the switch was to 3 OOC games for us. And I need to do some math from that time period to see if your explanation holds up as you are very right, PAC 10 = only 10 teams vs SEC. However off the top of my head and not looking, the SEC played more non BCS schools then any single other Conference out there. And there were other 12 school other conferences. And the SEC was within a few games of having the most D-2's.

Again, I need to crunch some math, look up some more things. Yes, you were right. It got my goat. Only why is because those are easily readable stats as such as how many D-2 schools(and all the other cream-puff evidence played) and for other SEC fans to even hint that is not true just irks me, because the whole world knows it and anyone can easily see it.

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Dude, it's cool.
I agree with you that we have played more creampuffs, but I don't think (all the time that is) that it's because we WANT to.
Scheduling contracts and negotiations with ADs can be hairy sometimes.
While there's no way you could have known this, New Orleans metro and Baton Rouge metro area and other state media have done numerous stories over the years on teams that LSU has, is, and will be in negotiation with to play. It's just something that is not newsworthy nationally :)

The reason I made that long list of "worthy" OOC opponents is simply because we DID play them, and I just happen to think it's a pretty representative list, 'creampuffs' notwithstanding.


I met a real good guy from Oregon who had the handle "baciami" from the National Rivals message board. He, along with Rivals posters from all over the country, decided to attend the LSU-Alabama game in Baton Rouge in November of 2008 (the 28-21 OT game). He was funny, and he had a blast....

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I still find it remarkable that you got to the title game, because your computer rankings had to be horrid.

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How so? I'm not about to say we had a tough SOS but it wasn't low enough to kill our chances obviously. We had a tougher schedule than TCU, the only other undefeated team outside of Oregon and the only other team close enough to Oregon in the rankings with a significantly higher SOS than Oregon was Stanford, but they weren't about to put a non-conference champion (from the same conference no less) in the NC, especially after the Nebraska and Oklahoma incidents in the early 2000s (the very reason SOS isn't as strong of a factor as it used to be in the BCS rankings) where they didn't even win their conference but got in the NC anyway. Most people saw the Oregon/Stanford game and it would be absolutely ridiculous if Stanford got in over us after that. Everyone else was ranked too low to be considered, even with a higher SOS.

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Granted these don't mean much because there have been numerous coaching changes on both teams. However, saying that the SEC plays cupcakes and that's a reason that we get into the BCS games is not telling the whole truth. We fight in the toughest conference, and when we go against common opponents we tend to have a little better record.

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Last part said what I was trying to get across.