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re: Why did Justin Vincent become a bust?

Posted on 2/11/11 at 11:38 am to
Posted by skewbs
Member since Apr 2008
2013 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 11:38 am to
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If you're going back that far then you damn sure better put LeBrandon Toefield on here


Re-read it again bro namath
Posted by LSUcajun77
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2008
21363 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 11:47 am to


this.
Posted by TigerBoy85
Member since Feb 2008
963 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 12:20 pm to
Seems like the real debate here is if it was Reggies, Bogies, or Fred's that pulled him down.
Posted by Teacher
Member since Sep 2006
3060 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 12:35 pm to
quote:

I heard it was booze and broads, can't really blame the guy I also really enjoy the booze and the broads.


I don't like the way you rantors are bashing a LSU player that we could not have won the 2003 BCS bowl without. He was a monster back for the 2003 season. Now in regards to after the 2003 season he ripped up his knee and never really made it back 100%. Food, girls, and beer, yes, but the 2003 season was golden and will live forever in our minds.
Posted by TheAdmiral
The Ocean Blue
Member since Nov 2009
103 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 1:05 pm to
quote:

I'm around the same age as Vincent. He was having sex with my girlfriend at the time. Over the summer of "03" his body looked to soften. No homo. He did indeed drink often.


FIFY
Posted by LSURep864
Moscow, Idaho
Member since Nov 2007
10973 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 1:18 pm to
LINK

Watch at the 12:31 mark and tell me he wasn't going to be great.
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12513 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 1:24 pm to
I disagree with the premise of the question. Yes, his later years were somewhat disappointing after his freshman season raised such high expectations. But no player -- under any circumstances -- who led our team in rushing on the way to winning SEC and National Championships where he was the MVP, can EVER be called a "bust."

A "bust" is a guy who never earned his scholarship. If Vincent had never played another down of football after '03, his contributions in that season alone would have 100% been worth all four (or five) years of his scholarship.

Posted by OhFace55
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2007
7040 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 1:29 pm to
When you dont live up to your potential bc of laziness you are a bust
Posted by Kevin TheRant
Member since Nov 2010
1732 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 1:51 pm to
I almost forgot how good that team was.
Posted by ragacamps
Member since Jan 2011
2997 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 2:02 pm to
Im not bashing him. I just said he liked to chase poontang and drink a lot. Who doesnt?? I just know that if I had practice the next morning and I didnt get home until 4am and I was stil drunk when I got home. I would not be at my best. The kid was just so dam talented that he was still able to compete on a high level. Imagine how awesome he would have been if he got a few extra hours of sleep.
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
34534 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 2:48 pm to
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How does someone go from so damn good, to as shitty as he was in one season
He got hurt and found out he liked the buffet line. And we found out he couldn't hold onto the ball.
Posted by ngilbe1
Nashville, TN
Member since Dec 2007
40 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 2:52 pm to
They would do this thing called parking lot pmping after 2pm outside of tigerland. I knew sluts that would show up at this time after the bars closed.
Posted by gjackx
Red Stick
Member since Jan 2007
16527 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 3:01 pm to
It's also pretty amazing that he was the 4th or 5th string back to start the '03 season...injuries gave him his chances and then they took his career (which led to the extra time off and the drinking etc)
Posted by mule74
Watersound Beach
Member since Nov 2004
11332 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 3:07 pm to
quote:

Seems like the real debate here is if it was Reggies, Bogies, or Fred's that pulled him down.


Fred's

I saw him at Bogie's occasionally, but he was a fixture at Fred's. May have slipped over to Reggie's occasionally to "play in sand box".
Posted by geaux99
Wamegeaux, KS
Member since Aug 2005
1591 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 3:09 pm to
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But no player -- under any circumstances -- who led our team in rushing on the way to winning SEC and National Championships where he was the MVP, can EVER be called a "bust."

A "bust" is a guy who never earned his scholarship. If Vincent had never played another down of football after '03, his contributions in that season alone would have 100% been worth all four (or five) years of his scholarship.


This.
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 3:18 pm to
Bogies & White Women from what I've heard. I've seen him at bogies a few times this semester.
Posted by geaux99
Wamegeaux, KS
Member since Aug 2005
1591 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 3:36 pm to
quote:

Mealey
Broussard
Addai
Toefield
Carey
Ridley
Scott
Keiland
Hester
Dominique Davis

All recent backas that were way better than vincent


I won't say that any one of those backs had a better year than Justin Vincent did in 2003. Some had better careers than Vincent, but none a better single season.

Shyrone fricking Carey? Are you kidding me?

Of that group, Joe Addai, D. Davis, Toefield, Charles Scott, and Jacob Hester had better careers.

And all of those guys ran behind great offensive lines...except for Scott and KW.

JV rushed for over 1000 yards as a freshman and didn't become the starter until the South Carolina game (which was something like week 7). He was the MVP of both the SECCG and the BCS National Championship Game.

But you think Shyrone Carey and Rondell Mealey were better running backs?
This post was edited on 2/11/11 at 3:49 pm
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 4:48 pm to
quote:

But no player -- under any circumstances -- who led our team in rushing on the way to winning SEC and National Championships where he was the MVP, can EVER be called a "bust."

A "bust" is a guy who never earned his scholarship. If Vincent had never played another down of football after '03, his contributions in that season alone would have 100% been worth all four (or five) years of his scholarship.



Agreed
Posted by gjackx
Red Stick
Member since Jan 2007
16527 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 4:54 pm to
And, JV is really good people. Can't say a bad thing about the guy personally
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 4:57 pm to
It amazes me how stupid people are. The thread is to discuss why JV didn't develop into a 4 year stud on the field. Its been very well documented that his off the field habits were not the best to remain in top physical shape.

Its not like this thread is some baseless bashing of JV. FWIW, I knew him pretty well his Junior and Senior year at LSU. Incredibly nice guy and he'll be one of the first to admit that he let himself slide after 2003.
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