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Posted on 1/5/11 at 12:20 pm to um2007
1. Harbaugh is not interested. get over it.
2. You can have Hoke. He wants the big bucks.
3. Miles is already making big bucks and he doesnt have to recruit North Jersey to find players. Miles is looking at yet-another season in 2011, with a top 5 recruiting class, and another top ten team capable of beating ANYONE.
Explain why he leaves all that to go scrabble for Western PA and Ohio left overs with Joe Pa and sweater boy?
2. You can have Hoke. He wants the big bucks.
3. Miles is already making big bucks and he doesnt have to recruit North Jersey to find players. Miles is looking at yet-another season in 2011, with a top 5 recruiting class, and another top ten team capable of beating ANYONE.
Explain why he leaves all that to go scrabble for Western PA and Ohio left overs with Joe Pa and sweater boy?
Posted on 1/5/11 at 12:21 pm to SammyTiger
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HOw much better would LSu and Bama be if Miles and Saban "understood" them. That is such shite. What is there to understand at Michigan? Do they play a different sport?
What are you even talking about? I never said anything about having to absolutely hire a Michigan man, except that it sounds like Harbaugh would not even be considered, which is annoying. It's who the fans want. Not just because he has ties to Michigan but because he's a great coach. Does it help that he would understand the rivalries? Yes. Just because the media keeps insisting the coach has to understand Michigan doesn't mean all of us up here feel that way.
Posted on 1/5/11 at 12:25 pm to um2007
Alumni w/ deep pockets or no, you're talking like $2.5 million is not a lot of money. But it is. Brandon has an athletic budget to oversee, you don't. And there would be an awful lot of those deep-pocketed alumni asking him exactly why he didn't wait a little while and save the university that money. They didn't get their deep pockets by just giving cash away, you know.
Posted on 1/5/11 at 12:33 pm to um2007
How we got here is now irrelevant, unless the next step is to fire Brandon for his "process." His remarks did not even focus on Mich Man as a criteria, but did not rule out hiring one either. What I took away is that he thinks (underscore "he thinks") that this thing is broken in a way that won't be fixed next year or the year after. Using a recruiting class or the hiring of a compatible system guy with the current talent does not seem to come into play. He is going to find the guy he wants to live & die with, and that likely means not only the current RR players, but this last RR class are ill suited to meeting the need. So why even make that an issue in the new hire. RR's biggest flaw was he couldn't put a top flight staff in place. He was loyal to his guys, but some of them are at blame for undercutting their own boss (Scott Shafer and then G-Rob) during games no less. Shafer is said to have tossed up his hands during the PU game and just let the do what they wanted because that's what they were doing, knowing RR wouldn't let them be fired. The tell here is that Brandon is going to get his guy and make sure the staff is first rate, not just some tag-alongs from the coaches last stop.
Posted on 1/5/11 at 12:33 pm to um2007
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Look, realistically what big name is going to come here 5+ days into January and screw over their former employer in having to do a search themselves? The timing of this is awful. People are pissed because why did Dave Brandon honestly need this bowl game to know that RR was not our guy? Who realistically are we going to bring in in January that is going to unite the fan base? That is why people up here are pissed. Forget what Michigan man we will hire, it's the process people are completely pissed at.
UM's new head coach has already been hired behind the scenes. Thats just the way this stuff works in todays world.
This post was edited on 1/5/11 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 1/5/11 at 12:34 pm to Godfather1
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you're talking like $2.5 million is not a lot of money. But it is. Brandon has an athletic budget to oversee, you don't. And there would be an awful lot of those deep-pocketed alumni asking him exactly why he didn't wait a little while and save the university that money.
Not just this, which is true enough. While U of M isn't in the same financial straits that LSU is, it is dealing with budget constraints that are severe relative to what it has had to deal with in the past (the recession has hit the State of Michigan pretty hard, as you must know). And to the extent the Athletic Department has to coexist with the rest of the University, "tossing in" an extra million or two because you don't want to wait a week or two doesn't help that dynamic.
This post was edited on 1/5/11 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 1/5/11 at 12:38 pm to loopy
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RR's biggest flaw was he couldn't put a top flight staff in place. He was loyal to his guys, but some of them are at blame for undercutting their own boss (Scott Shafer and then G-Rob) during games no less. Shafer is said to have tossed up his hands during the PU game and just let the do what they wanted because that's what they were doing, knowing RR wouldn't let them be fired. The tell here is that Brandon is going to get his guy and make sure the staff is first rate, not just some tag-alongs from the coaches last stop.
I agree with you completely that this was one of his biggest flaws.
I understand Brandon wants to bring his guy in to define his legacy as the AD. Hopefully we land someone that will be great for this school, just seems awfully hard to do considering how late we are starting.
Posted on 1/5/11 at 12:42 pm to OldManRiver
]Translations:
"We had a plan and Harbaugh told us no.
"Stay near the phone Les."
"Get off my butt about Harbaugh. We wanted him and he said no. And to thank him for fricking us over heres a lovely rumor for him to deal with...He is going to the NFL
Stanford "
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he's starting up a national search today.
"We had a plan and Harbaugh told us no.
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Wants somebody that "understands Michigan". "
"Stay near the phone Les."
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There's been a lot of Jim Harbaugh noise out there. haven't been deaf to hearing it...I personally believe JH headed to NFL
"Get off my butt about Harbaugh. We wanted him and he said no. And to thank him for fricking us over heres a lovely rumor for him to deal with...He is going to the NFL
Stanford "Posted on 1/5/11 at 12:47 pm to Godfather1
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you're talking like $2.5 million is not a lot of money. But it is. Brandon has an athletic budget to oversee, you don't. And there would be an awful lot of those deep-pocketed alumni asking him exactly why he didn't wait a little while and save the university that money. They didn't get their deep pockets by just giving cash away, you know.
To some here its not, especially those that really wanted to get rid of him right away. Whatever, I know I'm rambling and sound angry, sorry for that, I'm just annoyed. No doubt RR was not going to work out here, that much was obvious. Whether DB has someone lying in wait or not, the unknown this late in the game would make any fan nervous, pissed, upset, whatever.
Posted on 1/5/11 at 12:50 pm to um2007
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Whether DB has someone lying in wait or not, the unknown this late in the game would make any fan nervous, pissed, upset, whatever.
I can certainly understand that.
I'm hoping that we won't be going thru that down here next week.
Posted on 1/5/11 at 1:09 pm to um2007
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Look, realistically what big name is going to come here 5+ days into January and screw over their former employer in having to do a search themselves? The timing of this is awful. People are pissed because why did Dave Brandon honestly need this bowl game to know that RR was not our guy? Who realistically are we going to bring in in January that is going to unite the fan base? That is why people up here are pissed. Forget what Michigan man we will hire, it's the process people are completely pissed at.
So would it have made a difference to fire Rich Rod before the bowl game? Do you think Miles or whoever else they may go after is going to give a definitive answer between the end of the season and their bowl game? When would have been the ideal time to rid the program of Rich Rod? The bottom line is keeping Rich Rod was going to set the program back 1-2 years every year he is there...they are more than likely going to go with someone who runs a system like JH or LM and it will take time to get the right players in there...I guess I just don't understand the issue of timing...it was going to happen...why not save a couple million in the process?
This post was edited on 1/5/11 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 1/5/11 at 1:12 pm to Aubie83
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Univ of Michigan AD Dave Brandon: "I personally believe Jim Harbaugh is headed to the NFL."
this is interesting.
Posted on 1/5/11 at 1:15 pm to Aubie83
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Do you think Miles or whoever else they may go after is going to give a definitive answer between the end of the season and their bowl game?
If you're limiting your choices to coaches with bowls yet to be played, this is true. Plenty of good candidates out their who have completed their seasons. maybe not from a Michigan perspective though, since they are only looking for "Michigan Men".
Posted on 1/5/11 at 1:15 pm to ottothewise
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Miles is already making big bucks and he doesnt have to recruit North Jersey to find players. Miles is looking at yet-another season in 2011, with a top 5 recruiting class, and another top ten team capable of beating ANYONE.
Explain why he leaves all that to go scrabble for Western PA and Ohio left overs with Joe Pa and sweater boy?
Very solid post. 
Posted on 1/5/11 at 1:16 pm to Aubie83
He could have really done it after the OSU game. I don't think he needed this bowl game to further evaluate. However, I've come off the ledge. Initially hearing the comments it sounded as if this was a garbage process, however the more I think about it I realize what could Dave Brandon have really said? He keeps crap close to the vest, that much is obvious with zero leaks coming from inside the AD throughout this entire process. Not to mention immediately after firing the HC he can't really say I've been looking at new coaches for a month, here is who I have lined up.
Assuming he lands us a great hire (not Hoke) I'm fine with this. Sorry for the earlier rambling, anger, etc.
BTW. Brandon never said he was specifically looking for someone with ties to Michigan, that is purely the media running with that story.
Assuming he lands us a great hire (not Hoke) I'm fine with this. Sorry for the earlier rambling, anger, etc.
BTW. Brandon never said he was specifically looking for someone with ties to Michigan, that is purely the media running with that story.
This post was edited on 1/5/11 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 1/5/11 at 1:22 pm to um2007
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um2007
Who do you think the best candidate is that UM has a legit chance of getting?
Posted on 1/5/11 at 1:24 pm to Aubie83
Brandon has had a lot to deal with since coming in March. Of course the FB program was front and center, but BB was troubled as well, and Hockey is facing a coaching change in the near term as well. Brandon has been handed a lot of nice new facilities, along with a mountain of debt that paid for them. Then the NCAA "stretching" violations thing. Personally, I think he knew shortly after he got here that the FB program was going to be torn up again. Maybe he thought he could get JH, but still the program was going to be torn up. So what timing fixes that? In his mind, no timing fixes or even helps that. Just hiring the right guy. Up until the wire he probably felt he could woo JH, but to no avial. But, that changes nothing, he needs to get the right guy and now he will go "seeking" him out. Disappointing, but this day was set in motion years ago (around 2006) when CARR wanted to leave, but stayed to sell the New Big House concept, but forgot to recruit anyone for the next two years. Who ever came after CARR was already doomed then, they just didn't know it.
Posted on 1/5/11 at 1:29 pm to Aubie83
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Who do you think the best candidate is that UM has a legit chance of getting?
I honestly don't know anymore. Everyone though Harbaugh would be a sure thing up until yesterday so.
I don't think Miles will be considered, I've felt that all along. Plus, if I were him I would tell us to F off since he should have been pursued harder in 07.
I don't even want to think of Hoke as a possibility.
Brandon also made it seem like the whole "michigan man" thing wouldn't be a factor so it really could be anyone at this point.
Posted on 1/5/11 at 1:37 pm to um2007
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I don't think Miles will be considered, I've felt that all along. Plus, if I were him I would tell us to F off since he should have been pursued harder in 07.
I also think that the media has been unfairly abusive of Miles, and it will hurt him now. Sure, he's a little quirky. But he is not only a guy of character with a great record at LSU (and a successful turnaround at Okie State), he is, in fact, a smart and savvy guy and one of the best recruiters in the game. But it has suited the media's agenda to pick on him, with little regard to truth. I'm not saying they've been "out to get him" so much as they have failed to restrain themselves in pursuit of a catchy routine and if he becomes "collateral damage" they couldn't care less. That will work to his disadvantage in any talent hunt by Michigan.
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