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re: if our D only would have attacked Newton like this...

Posted on 11/26/10 at 3:40 pm to
Posted by c on z
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Posted on 11/26/10 at 3:40 pm to
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n fact, correct me if I am wrong but Keke Mingo is actually lighter than Hightower.




He is 23 lbs. lighter than that guy.


Never seen a guy that big play LB full time. Almost looks like a razor thin DT.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 11/26/10 at 3:41 pm to
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Are you being serious here? Our DEs are playing at the same weight as Donta Hightower. In fact, correct me if I am wrong but Keke Mingo is actually lighter than Hightower.


Lavar Edwards, Levingston, Michael Brockers, Agahyere....

Those are small defensive lineman?


Mingo is tiny, but he is also in on pass rush situations.



And Bama doesnt run nearly as much of 3-4 as they did with Cody. Why? Because they dont have a legit nose.

They'll play these "huge LBs" you are talking about at DE, or stand them up and rush them.


besides, spread offense are best defended by fast defenses. That is the whole reason a lot of teams are focusing more on putting their best athletes on defense.


Big, slow defenses do not stand a chance .

Bama, like has LSU, has big, strong, fast athletes on defense.

Posted by jlc05
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Posted on 11/26/10 at 3:41 pm to
Gary just said Bama's success today is b/c the D IS ATTACKING CAM...and not giving him time to stutterstep and find his lane
This post was edited on 11/26/10 at 3:42 pm
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 11/26/10 at 3:41 pm to
Lester.....they got 14 now.


10 more to go.


I know, points dont matter in this fricked up bitch of a post..

Posted by ashy larry
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Posted on 11/26/10 at 3:43 pm to
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You have to force him to pass.

If he beats you that way, then you tip your hat.


posted about 5 minutes prior to a 70 yard td pass.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/26/10 at 3:44 pm to
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Outside of PP Nevis and Kelvin, everybody else is either young or would be lucky to sniff a phone call by a NFL team after the draft is over.



Posted by Tiger Authority
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Posted on 11/26/10 at 3:44 pm to
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Gary just said Bama's success today is b/c the D IS ATTACKING CAM...and not giving him time to stutterstep and find his lane


Well if Gary or Verne said something I certainly think we would be smart to stop thinking for ourselves.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/26/10 at 3:46 pm to
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posted about 5 minutes prior to a 70 yard td pass.




I didn't say he couldn't pass.

But you have to play to your team's strengths and the opponents weaknesses.


That pass should have never been completed, fwiw.


also i have money on Auburn today. So it's not like its going to hurt my feelings.
Posted by jlc05
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Posted on 11/26/10 at 3:47 pm to
So Gary is wrong and you're right? OK.
Posted by ashy larry
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Posted on 11/26/10 at 3:48 pm to
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I didn't say he couldn't pass.


oh I know. I was just laughing at the timing.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 11/26/10 at 3:48 pm to
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Well if Gary or Verne said something I certainly think we would be smart to stop thinking for ourselves.




geauxaddai was quoting Gary earlier


about how fast defenses can't play against spread teams, which makes zero sense in itself.
Posted by geauxaddai
Chicago, IL
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 11/26/10 at 3:50 pm to
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Lavar Edwards, Levingston, Michael Brockers, Agahyere


I get the impression you are arguing just for the sake of it. You quoted 2 defensive tackles (one of them in the 2nd team rotation) and Aghayere who has not been starting over Keke.

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And Bama doesnt run nearly as much of 3-4 as they did with Cody. Why?


Please take a look at this game and tell me how their DL has been aligned most of the time.





Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 11/26/10 at 3:51 pm to
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So Gary is wrong and you're right? OK.


Have you not watched these two booth fricks for the last five plus years? They are fricking idiots half the time about this stuff. Now you can go and tell me how Gary Danielson played and knows more than me and all that, but the simple fact of the matter is that it's not set in stone because Verne or Gary said something, far from it.

I think it's personally not a matter of attacking but the fact that their linebackers are big enough to play within gaps better than we were able to.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 11/26/10 at 3:51 pm to
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geauxaddai was quoting Gary earlier




And I was commenting to the guy that was voicing his displeasure in our inability to attack Auburn.
Posted by Mindenfan
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Posted on 11/26/10 at 3:52 pm to
Ballgame isn't over yet.
Posted by geauxaddai
Chicago, IL
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 11/26/10 at 3:53 pm to
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about how fast defenses can't play against spread teams, which makes zero sense in itself.


Dude, you have zero credibility. Where did I say that? Gary said the spread does not work in the NFL because of the size at the point of attack. Did I imply that NFL teams don't have any speed? I mean Jeez!
Posted by hashtag
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Posted on 11/26/10 at 3:55 pm to
all we had to do was tackle the guys we touched and we win.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/26/10 at 3:57 pm to
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I get the impression you are arguing just for the sake of it. You quoted 2 defensive tackles (one of them in the 2nd team rotation) and Aghayere who has not been starting over Keke.


I am talking about overall defensive size.


and Mingo has started 1 game all year. Lavar Edwards has started most games opposite of Adams since Montgomery has been down.


260-275 is normal size for college defensive ends. That is not small.

280-300 is normal for most college DTs.


Francois is really the only undersized player on our Defense at LB. He is an obvious weak spot.

Mingo is small, but a situational player.

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Please take a look at this game and tell me how their DL has been aligned most of the time.


they've had 4 and 5 down lineman most of the game.

This post was edited on 11/26/10 at 3:59 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/26/10 at 3:58 pm to
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Gary said the spread does not work in the NFL because of the size at the point of attack. Did I imply that NFL teams don't have any speed? I mean Jeez!


no, you implied that LSU wasn't able to stop Auburn because they were a speed defense.

Posted by ps101
Shreveport
Member since Aug 2005
2194 posts
Posted on 11/26/10 at 4:01 pm to
The problem was read and react to late (Chavis) and when they did get pressure, failed tackles, and no disciple to cover Newton's rushing lanes.
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