re: Miles Bashing

yea i agree. the only thing about hiring top assistance is they will always be up for HC jobs. it's difficult to get all of the pieces to line up.

not making a decision and promoting two guys to DC was disaster. time management has been a disaster.

i think miles has made decisions that opened the door for constructive criticism.

i do hate when sports columnists like Greg Doyle say things like "you know les is stupid by his eyes. they are so close together you can blindfold him with your thumb." it's ok if i criticize him. i just don't like it when others do it.

vilified! Sir I agree with yor post but in due respect I must inform you that this board is not a fan of LSU board. This board has been prated by a bunch of punks who have meaningless lives and they love to stir up shite. Those in the know, understand the situation the staff was put in when a certain QB had to be dismissed. Coach Miles has and is working on the problems the Tigers have endured. He may not be finished but at least he is not sitting on his hands. God bless LSU and the coaches and players who represent the school that I love.

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state has a better coach.

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This has been proven how exactly ?

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I do remember looking back after McClendon's demise thinking that 7-3 and 8-3 seasons didn't look so bad

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Yep. Unfortunately, an entire generation of LSU fans got conditioned into this mentality of mediocrity. Instead of being a school like Alabama where 7-3 is a failure, we became a school like..well, LSU, where 7-3 was considered good. I was very glad when I thought that finally changed in the 2000s. Now, we find out whether it did or not.

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not making a decision and promoting two guys to DC was disaster.

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who would you have hired?

the right hire was not there, so he decided the best route would be to keep the same system with people that had been there.

well it didn't work. and he took care of it.

god, the way some of you think every decision has to be the absolute right decision (hindsight mind you) is rediculous. in hindsight it was a mistake, but at the time i can't come up with a better course of action. can you?

seriously, anybody can look back at any random persons decisions and criticize. but without the knowledge of how things turned out you don't know shite.

Certainly agree.

I remember a different time and place over the years. Patience was a commodity. Money hadn't ruined sports as much as today. Millions were what a pro team was worth; now millions is a signing bonus for a twenty something kid. Kids didn't leave after two seasons. Pressure, pressure, pressure. Like it or not, that's the lay of the land. Any coach with half a brain knows that.

I have a friend who is an LSU fan. Every assessment of an LSU football issue ends with "Miles is an idiot and needs to be fired." I can agree with some of the critics. Ole Miss was a debacle. Alabama just sort of broke your heart and spirit, and Penn State certainly looked winnable to me. Bad breaks and bad decisions all around.

I am hoping for the best, not exactly expecting the worst, but ready to accept whatever happens. If that means a new coach, amen to that. I just really don't like coach shopping because it's hard to predict the future. Everybody looks like the reincarnation of Knute Rockne and Bear Bryant when introduced to the public on day one. On day two we realize what we got ourselves into. Do I believe we stick with someone and let them develop over the next ten years? Even if I did, that's not today's world.

I really started something with this thread. To all on the list, especially the Pollyannas who see no wrong and the "negatigers" who see no right, we are all Tiger fans. We all want to win each and EVERY game. I am somewhere skewed to the positive, but certainly not unrealistic. We need to win, and winning at one school is not winning at LSU. An 8-3 season at No Name University will not cut it here over the long haul.

I respect everyone's opinion even when they are diametrically opposed to mine. I know this. I certainly wouldn't want to coach the Tigers. That's the reason the salaries for coaches are astronomical. Coaching tenure is an oxymoron. The pressure to win means a bad coach has a short stay, and a good coach will be like a hired gun moving from job to job.

This ought to be good for about five or ten more replies. Good God you have to love this list and the passion of the people on it.

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Those in the know, understand the situation the staff was put in when a certain QB had to be dismissed.

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Miles bears responsibility for recruiting him and not having a valid Plan B. However, it was the correct decision to dismiss him. Once that decision was made, it was certain to cost us 2 to 4 games over the two years that RP would have played. If we go back and add just 2 games over the past 2 seasons - 19 wins doesn't look so bad, and if just 1 game is a conference game, we are back above .500 in conference.

It is not the only reason - dukke v constantly reminds us that the "offense" wasn't the problem in 2008 (though I disagree specifically on the QB play issue) - but there is no more critical player on the team than QB, period.

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lsu is picked to finish 4th-in the west

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And these predictions always pan out? They are never wrong?

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state has a better coach

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Based upon what?

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Les let LSU get beat with 21pt half time lead by a guy who wasn't good enough to play for LSU and had to transfer

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YOu must be pretty fu cking stupid to not recall the events surrounding that game.

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i honestly hope Les runs the table,

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No you don't. You love to pontificate in the vain hopes that someone will take you seriously.

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somehow learns to speak,

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Now that is truly funny. It is amazing how the denizens of a state who butcher the English can criticize anyone else's speaking. Now tell me the truth, you think Yat Talk is good English?

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the only thing about hiring top assistance

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Back to the English thing. Now I know why you don't understand Miles.

Thnaks for proving my points about the Miles bashers. Children like you make it too easy.
I have to go now before the Chihuahua gets me.

Miles is not a bad coach. I just don't think he is a great coach.

You can't fear failure. If Miles has another blah year it's time for a change. You have to take some risks to get there. I would rather take a gamble for greatness (and risk having a worse situation if the new coach doesn't pan out) than be stuck in mediocrity.