re: Miles Bashing

I love the original post. You made some great points. Whether youre a posi or negi, I believe both sides make good points and I believe everyone on this board are die hard Tigers and want to see our team be successful. Im with the older Tiger fans who came up in the late 80's and the 90's and it's not that we accept mediocrity as much as that its the fact that we've seen how bad it can get. I know some of you are in doom and gloom mode wanting to make wholesale changes to the staff but hey its your opinion and youre entitled to it, but in my opinion its not as bad as people are making it.

I agree that Les has made plenty of bone head descisions but I also believe he is a good coach and unlike Saban this is not a stepping stone for something better and that he actually wants to be here. I believe he is going to turn it around this year and make a serious run for a NC.

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when he kept drives going against Florida by busting them on 4th downs? Pretty smart coaching huh?

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So, now all it takes for "smart coaching" is to go for it on 4th down when a punt will obviously lose the game for you? Hell, almost every coach is "smart" in that situation.

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And vistories over the likes of Miami, Georgia Tech, Ohio State and SEC opponents were all just accidental?

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How many Quality teams has LSU beat the last TWO YEARS???????/

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So if you don't have an elite program you're not determined enough? I guess all those dozens of teams just don't care about football enough to be elite.

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Yep. In a nutshell, that's it.

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When they occasionally slip from it, they fire and hire coaches until they're back to it. Texas, Ohio State, Michigan, Nebraska, Notre Dame, USC, Alabama, etc. do not think 8-4 on a consistent basis is OK just because it could be 4-8 instead if they fire a coach.


Neither does LSU.

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So far, we have. And, more to the point of this thread, the OP clearly does.

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Which programs are you speaking of?

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Any program where 8-4 is considered "not all that bad" and having a "7 win team" in the 5th year of a coaching regime but getting 9 wins out of it is considered an accomplishment.

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Les Miles is not .500 in SEC games

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He is in the last two years.

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I'll take all this with a grain of salt considering you were calling Miles the best coach in the SEC two years ago.

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Didn't you read my sig quote? I was right all along. I never meant all those good things I said about Miles. Rocket confirms this. Right? Or, on the other hand, maybe I just look at the performance, good or bad, and make a judgment, good or bad, based on that.

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So, now all it takes for "smart coaching" is to go for it on 4th down when a punt will obviously lose the game for you? Hell, almost every coach is "smart" in that situation.

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Really? Actually if you were to be intellectually honest, just for a moment, you would have to admit that most coaches would have punted and played defense hoping the longer field would slow down the Florida offense.

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It's always about Ole Miss. Ole Miss.

shite happens.

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When you are working for an employer, and you're the fricking CEO making $4 million a year, and your job consists of going to work every day, but there are 12-14 really huge days every year that determine the success and future of the company, "shite" might "happen" once in a while, but it damned sure does not happen on one of those 12-14 days that the whole company spent the entire rest of the year getting ready for if you want to keep your $4 million a year job.

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Mack Brown did the same thing in the Big XII champ. game.

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No, he didn't. He didn't sit there on his arse with a timeout and let 17 crucial seconds run off the clock because he didn't have sense enough to know it was running. He didn't get his sack-prone QB sacked with a stupid arse play call when he was in FG range.

Mack Brown in the BXIICG did about what Miles did against Auburn in 2007. He took one more shot at a play before kicking the FG. The fact that the clock operator let too much time off the clock in both scenarios (from 3 or 4 down to 1 in the LSU-Auburn game, from 1 to 0 in the Texas-Nebraska game) doesn't make either a coaching mistake.

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The Sabanistas, particularly, have forgotten anything other than 2001, 2003, 2008 and 2009.

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I compare 2004 to the 2008 season. Saban didn't have a quality team that year. I compare the 2001 team to the 2006 team.

How does anyone take PeeJ seriously?

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most coaches would have punted and played defense hoping the longer field would slow down the Florida offense.

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bullshite. Down by 10 in the 4th quarter facing 4th and 1 around midfield, 99% of coaches would go for it. Ditto for being down by 3 in the last few minutes. The only real risks he took in that game were the two times in the fourth quarter that he passed up the FG inside the UF 5 and went for it instead. Those were good coaching decisions that a lot of coaches would not have made. Miles deserves full credit for those, and would have deserved it even they had not worked out in our favor.

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If so, the criticism will stop.

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You don't actually believe this do you? Too many ranters have vested too much attacking Miles. Nothing will calm them down. An undefeated season would bring them out bitching about the number of first downs opponents made.