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Relief well drilling halted while new cap is tested

Posted on 7/14/10 at 9:02 am
Posted by nycajun
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Posted on 7/14/10 at 9:02 am
Does this make sense, or is it just another BP decision driven by a financially-based desire not to spike the existing well?
Posted by mylsuhat
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Posted on 7/14/10 at 9:05 am to
maybe theyre extremely close to tapping into the well
Posted by PJinAtl
Atlanta
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Posted on 7/14/10 at 9:10 am to
CNN report said that well #1 was halted because they were afraid that a pressure rise when the new cap is closed could blow out the backside. I guess they are so close it wouldn't take much pressure to fracture the area between the primary well and the relief well.
Posted by Klaus
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Posted on 7/14/10 at 9:12 am to
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maybe theyre extremely close to tapping into the well


They are extremely close.
Posted by nycajun
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Posted on 7/14/10 at 9:14 am to
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maybe theyre extremely close to tapping into the well


They are. The question is, does it make sense to stop the relief well, which would, if successful, plug the main well permanently, in order to test the cap? If the cap works, then they can continue to take (and market) oil from the original well. If not, more oil in the marshes until the relief well is finished, and then they have to drill another well (if they are permitted) to tap into the reservoir. Or am I wrongly suggesting that BP is still motivated by the bottom line?
Posted by nycajun
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Posted on 7/14/10 at 9:15 am to
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CNN report said that well #1 was halted because they were afraid that a pressure rise when the new cap is closed could blow out the backside. I guess they are so close it wouldn't take much pressure to fracture the area between the primary well and the relief well.


Does this explanation make more sense than my cynical speculation? Maybe so.
Posted by MountainTiger
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Posted on 7/14/10 at 9:19 am to
Are you guys positive they're not talking about DD II? It has paused so that it doesn't get too close and interfere with the ranging runs that DD III is doing. This was the plan all along.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 7/14/10 at 9:20 am to
Put it this way, there is NO FINANCIAL BENEFIT for BP delaying the well.
Posted by PJinAtl
Atlanta
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Posted on 7/14/10 at 9:29 am to
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Are you guys positive they're not talking about DD II? It has paused so that it doesn't get too close and interfere with the ranging runs that DD III is doing. This was the plan all along.
You are right that relief well 2 is halted as to not interfere with relief well 1, but RW1 is halted due to new cap tests.

From CNN:

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Meanwhile, work on two relief wells -- seen as the ultimate solution to the oil disaster -- was suspended.

Wells said work on the first relief well, expected to be completed in August, was delayed while officials prepare for the integrity test out of an abundance of caution. It is possible, though unlikely, that shutting in the well as part of the integrity test could cause the back side of the relief well to be blown out, Wells said.

"It's a good precaution to take at this time," he said. However, the delay will set the relief well progress back by one to two days.

Operations on the second relief well were temporarily suspended at a depth of 15,963 feet "to ensure there is no interference with the first relief well," BP said in a statement Tuesday.
Posted by MountainTiger
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Posted on 7/14/10 at 9:30 am to
Thanks, just making sure. There's been so much disinformation throughout this whole thing that I thought I'd double check.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 7/14/10 at 9:32 am to
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Or am I wrongly suggesting that BP is still motivated by the bottom line?


Dude. The idea of them in any way saving this oil for production having anything to do with how they are handling this is crazy talk.
They want this shite closed off and are doing whatver they can to make sure this happens.
Posted by nycajun
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Posted on 7/14/10 at 9:47 am to
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Dude. The idea of them in any way saving this oil for production having anything to do with how they are handling this is crazy talk.


One would hope. But BP hasn't exactly established a pattern of sacrificing marginal revenue in the interests of safety, the environment, or the niceties of government regulations (such as they are).
This post was edited on 7/14/10 at 9:52 am
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
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Posted on 7/14/10 at 9:54 am to
no way bp is making any money off the oil coming out of that well.
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14859 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 9:58 am to
100% correct diat. Profits on everything they collect go to relief efforts. Everything they don't collect they have to pay to clean up. I don't think there's anybody that wants the flow stopped more than BP.
Posted by nycajun
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Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 7/14/10 at 9:59 am to
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no way bp is making any money off the oil coming out of that well.


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Profits on everything they collect go to relief efforts.


I missed that piece of legislation. Or court order. Or whatever. Or, more bluntly, sez who?

My point (and I admit I'm speculating, and out of an abundance of uncertainty about the facts) is that whatever loss BP is takinghere, and it is monumental, would be reduced by any proceeds from the sale of the oil (or refined products therefrom) if they can cap the well and take oil out through the cap. If they spike it with the relief well, the oil stays in the reservoir until another well gets drilled. If ever.
This post was edited on 7/14/10 at 10:03 am
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 7/14/10 at 10:04 am to
The recovered oil may be generating some revenue for BP, but there's no way it is a profitable operation.
Posted by nycajun
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Member since Dec 2004
18183 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 10:06 am to
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The recovered oil may be generating some revenue for BP, but there's no way it is a profitable operation.


Of course not. But losing less is "profitable" in a relative sense.

I don't know. Is the cap an alternative to the relief well, or just an interim step?
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 7/14/10 at 10:08 am to
Interim
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14859 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 10:17 am to
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I missed that piece of legislation. Or court order. Or whatever. Or, more bluntly, sez who?

I'm not sure it would be constitutional to legislate that but IANAL. Anyway, BP announced early on that whatever money they make from collected oil would go toward the relief effort. I can't hunt down a press release right now so you'll either have to take my word for it...or not.

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My point (and I admit I'm speculating, and out of an abundance of uncertainty about the facts) is that whatever loss BP is taking here, and it is monumental, would be reduced by any proceeds from the sale of the oil (or refined products therefrom) if they can cap the well and take oil out through the cap. If they spike it with the relief well, the oil stays in the reservoir until another well gets drilled. If ever.

That's not consistent with their desire to shut in the well. If that were the case, they would have simply put a better (sealing) top hat on it and tried to collect as much as they can. However, that's not what they've done.

I know it's fun to throw out wild speculation but you have to look at what would motivate such behavior and whether that behavior is consistent with their other behavior. In this case, there is no motivation to allow the flow to continue and it's not consistent with other actions they've taken to stop the flow.
Posted by Drew Orleans
Member since Mar 2010
21577 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 10:33 am to
Because if when they cap it the back pressure causes another blowout in the relief well you will be yelling...," Why didn't they fricking stop drilling?"
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