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Corexit Ingredients In Gulf Spill Area Far Above Toxic Levels

Posted on 7/8/10 at 2:13 pm
Posted by BeaverPRO
Tampa
Member since Aug 2009
16264 posts
Posted on 7/8/10 at 2:13 pm
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Samples Confirm Corexit Ingredients In Gulf Spill Area Far Above Toxic Concentrations


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Benzene and other highly toxic contaminants were very low however the concentration of propylene glycol was between 360 and 440 parts per million. Just 25 parts per million is know to kill most fish and propylene glycol is just one of many ingredients found in Corexit.



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Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 7/8/10 at 2:18 pm to
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26248 posts
Posted on 7/8/10 at 6:18 pm to
So some guys scooped up some oil and it tested over the level of toxicity that would kill fish. The first post makes it sound like they took represenative WATER sample of what is in the gulf.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
52884 posts
Posted on 7/9/10 at 12:06 am to
1) Benezine is not a component of Corexit as stated. That is an element of the oil, and is violitle so it evaporates quickly. (It is highly toxic though, but as is noted its concentration is low due to the rapid evaporation

2)
quote:

Just 25 parts per million is know to kill most fish and propylene glycol is just one of many ingredients found in Corexit.


bullshite.

Question EVERYTHING that the article says if they are saying this. Propylene glycol is known for its general lack of toxicity, and is very widely used. Routine medical procedures have patients drink it by the GALLON, and it is also routinely used on fish as the solvent for fish toxicity tests. So it is certainly not going to kill the fricking fish at 25 parts per million.

The only harm that it can cause is indirect: as it is being broken down by microbes for energy, it takes up more oxygen from the water. But in practical quantities it is not toxic.


I REALLY wish people would stop taking for granted that because someone is on the internet, it is true. Especially if they are going to forward these "pearls of wisdom" along.
This post was edited on 7/9/10 at 12:43 am
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62486 posts
Posted on 7/9/10 at 9:13 am to
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Propylene glycol is known for its general lack of toxicity, and is very widely used.
Also an ingredient in many foods. Including Zatarains Creole Mustard LINK (click on the ingredients tab).
Posted by WNCTiger
Member since Aug 2006
2883 posts
Posted on 7/9/10 at 3:57 pm to
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Propylene glycol is known to exert high levels of biochemical oxygen demand (BOD) during degradation in surface waters. This process can adversely affect aquatic life by consuming oxygen aquatic organisms need to survive. Large quantities of dissolved oxygen (DO) in the water column are consumed when microbial populations decompose ethylene glycol.


Oh crap. That means its bad for marine life. Or is that just a lie too?

IIRC, everything will be fine and we'll never know it happened by October (earliest denier claims) or so its been written on this forum.

I'll withhold judgment on that claim until October.

Your mileage may vary.








Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61246 posts
Posted on 7/9/10 at 5:06 pm to
I am sure the truth is somehwhere in the middle, but I wish the "world is going to end" crowd would stop with their stupid blogs and emails with worst case scenerio stuff.
Did you hear about the large methane cloud that is going to kill us all? How about the good possibility that the well is going to cave in and cause a huge arse tsunami and wipe out the gulf coast? Did you hear the one about the crops being killed in Miss. by poisened rain?
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
52884 posts
Posted on 7/9/10 at 8:02 pm to
quote:

Oh crap. That means its bad for marine life. Or is that just a lie too?


I did specify precisely that in my post.

However, it takes a LOT more than 25 parts per million to cause that negative effect. What you are referring to is mainly an issue from runoff from northern airports that use 50% propylene glycol solutions to rinse off planes to keep them deiced.

Doesn't change the fact that the compound is not inherently very toxic to life as the article tried to claim

"OMG, we found levels 10 times of what would be enough to kill fish!"

"But there are no mass fish deaths?"

"NEVER MIND THE MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN!"

Under the right conditions WATER is toxic to marine life as well.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 7/11/10 at 7:39 pm to
But ... but ... isn't propylene glycol a chemical?
Posted by machete31
Member since May 2010
2 posts
Posted on 7/13/10 at 2:05 pm to
I give Propylene Glycol to my dog once a month, it is the solution used to add Ivermec to for heart worm preventative.
Posted by LSU2001
Cut Off, La.
Member since Nov 2007
2388 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 10:26 am to
I viewed this video several weeks ago and this guy is pretty much a moron. But everyone is ignoring the much bigger chemical threat that has come to light during this oil spill crisis. The real chemical threat is the vast amounts of dihydrogen monoxide that is being found surrounding this oil spill and the resulting cleanup. People seem to be almost completely unaware of this dangerous chemical even though the workers offshore are taking obvious precautions to help prevent accidental inhalation of this toxic substance that is found in enormous quantities in the gulf.

For the life of me I can't figure out why the media and govt is suppressing the dangers of this toxin. Each year numerous people die in the US from inhalation and overconsumption of this chemical. There is a movement to ban the use of the chemical but it is so ubiquitous in the environment that banning may not do much good. Please see the link below for further information on this hidden danger.

Link: LINK

Dihydogen monoxide FAQ

Frequently Asked Questions About Dihydrogen Monoxide (DHMO)

What is Dihydrogen Monoxide?

Dihydrogen Monoxide (DHMO) is a colorless and odorless chemical compound, also referred to by some as Dihydrogen Oxide, Hydrogen Hydroxide, Hydronium Hydroxide, or simply Hydric acid. Its basis is the highly reactive hydroxyl radical, a species shown to mutate DNA, denature proteins, disrupt cell membranes, and chemically alter critical neurotransmitters. The atomic components of DHMO are found in a number of caustic, explosive and poisonous compounds such as Sulfuric Acid, Nitroglycerine and Ethyl Alcohol.
For more detailed information, including precautions, disposal procedures and storage requirements, refer to one of the Material Safety Data Sheets (MSDS) available for DHMO:

Kemp Compliance & Safety MSDS for DHMO
Chem-Safe, Inc. MSDS for Dihydrogen Monoxide
Applied Petrochemical Research MSDS for Hydric Acid
Original DHMO.org Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) for Dihydrogen Monoxide (html)
Should I be concerned about Dihydrogen Monoxide?

Yes, you should be concerned about DHMO! Although the U.S. Government and the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) do not classify Dihydrogen Monoxide as a toxic or carcinogenic substance (as it does with better known chemicals such as hydrochloric acid and benzene), DHMO is a constituent of many known toxic substances, diseases and disease-causing agents, environmental hazards and can even be lethal to humans in quantities as small as a thimbleful.

Rest of facts at link. Please help raise awareness of this hidden danger.
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