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missing the holes and cuts
Posted on 6/21/10 at 8:57 am
Posted on 6/21/10 at 8:57 am
Does anyone else think last years poor running game was as much on the backs as it was on the O-line?
watching the games (cause it's a long hot summer and there's shite else on) it appears there were places for the backs to go, but they missed them. I know I am looking at them with a great advantage, but some of them were Big and the backs seems to turn away from them.
Just wondering if anyone else had similiar thoughts.
watching the games (cause it's a long hot summer and there's shite else on) it appears there were places for the backs to go, but they missed them. I know I am looking at them with a great advantage, but some of them were Big and the backs seems to turn away from them.
Just wondering if anyone else had similiar thoughts.
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Posted on 6/21/10 at 9:00 am to TigersfaninTN
The Oline holes were not consistent enough and as a result the RB's became tentative not knowing where the holes were going to be.
RB's could rarely run downhill
RB's could rarely run downhill
Posted on 6/21/10 at 9:01 am to TigersfaninTN
Usually...any holes that were opened up didn't stay open very long
Posted on 6/21/10 at 9:03 am to dutchtowntiger100
It's not possible that it was a coaching problem with the backs? I am far away and usually only get to see the games on TV, so again, a tainted view.
It just struck me as I have watched the replays how many times there were places for the backs to go and they end up hitting the o-line in the back either right or left of the opening.
It just struck me as I have watched the replays how many times there were places for the backs to go and they end up hitting the o-line in the back either right or left of the opening.
Posted on 6/21/10 at 9:04 am to TigersfaninTN
I agree that the holes weren't open long, but it seemed the backs were always right there and just didn't seem to hit it.
Posted on 6/21/10 at 9:11 am to TigersfaninTN
vision and speed are hard to coach, our top two backs were never the cut back type of runners that could take advantage of holes opening up on the backside of plays.
Posted on 6/21/10 at 9:14 am to TigersfaninTN
quote:A thread with a title like this belongs on the O-T.
missing the holes and cuts
Posted on 6/21/10 at 9:15 am to TigersfaninTN
Not really.
I do think that RB play contributed to poor pass blocking though. Scott was the only one who get his pass blocking assignments right, but then he wasn't much of a threat as a receiver.
Certainly, there was no RB like a Jacob Hester to help the passing game along last year.
I do think that RB play contributed to poor pass blocking though. Scott was the only one who get his pass blocking assignments right, but then he wasn't much of a threat as a receiver.
Certainly, there was no RB like a Jacob Hester to help the passing game along last year.
Posted on 6/21/10 at 9:23 am to Doc Fenton
True, when Murphy go hurt last year no one really talked about the impact because he didn't get the carries Scott did. But he was the best reciever by far we had out of the backfield.
Posted on 6/21/10 at 9:39 am to TigersfaninTN
Some of the running plays that made you think, "How was that ever going to succeed?" were read plays where someone made the wrong decision based upon the read given.
Posted on 6/21/10 at 9:54 am to AlxTgr
Your reasoning is sound and explaination is reasonable to all except those that start off every discussion with the hate Miles mantra. Those guys know football. 
Posted on 6/21/10 at 10:21 am to TigersfaninTN
No - see stats from '08 - same backs, horrible results in '09
Posted on 6/21/10 at 10:45 am to KING JAMES
I would still put it more on line play, than the running backs.
Posted on 6/21/10 at 10:50 am to TigerFanNKaty
When your going lateral at the line of scrimmage that makes it so much easier for the LB to make that play
Successful running is when you get to that second level quick and then the DB are forced into run support.
LSU was going lateral and the LB fed into that and were able to snuff it out or hem them in on the sideline negating the long gains
Successful running is when you get to that second level quick and then the DB are forced into run support.
LSU was going lateral and the LB fed into that and were able to snuff it out or hem them in on the sideline negating the long gains
Posted on 6/21/10 at 10:53 am to TigerFanNKaty
It wasn't just the o-line, the fullback going the right way is important too. If anyone remembers Ridley at the end of the LA Tech game when he ran the ball all the way down the field....well, the first play from scrimmage he is almost tackled in the end zone because Parsons went left instead of right. Even if the hole is there, if the fullback doesn't pick up the linebacker, he will just fill the hole and make the tackle.
Posted on 6/21/10 at 11:39 am to TigersfaninTN
This was coaching. KW didn't get to carry the ball as much last year because the
Coaches wanted him to run where the play was designed.
The referces were made through the early part of the year how he wasn't physical enough and didn't hit the designated hole!
Seems he didn't want to shove a round peg through a square hole and it cost him his carries!
Then, later in the year.....when he played more he just buried his head and ran right into the defense, just like he was asked.
Remeber, this was a guy that averaged almost 5 yards a carry coming into the year, and he had NEVER exploded through a hole and run someone over.
Coaches wanted him to run where the play was designed.
The referces were made through the early part of the year how he wasn't physical enough and didn't hit the designated hole!
Seems he didn't want to shove a round peg through a square hole and it cost him his carries!
Then, later in the year.....when he played more he just buried his head and ran right into the defense, just like he was asked.
Remeber, this was a guy that averaged almost 5 yards a carry coming into the year, and he had NEVER exploded through a hole and run someone over.
Posted on 6/21/10 at 11:44 am to TigersfaninTN
quote:
Does anyone else think last years poor running game was as much on the backs as it was on the O-line?
No. Frankly I think you would have to be blind to try and make that case.
Posted on 6/21/10 at 12:00 pm to TigersfaninTN
In a way, I agree. There were times when Scott, Ridley, et al seemed to bury their head into the back of an OL when if they had glance right/left, they would have seen daylight.
In fairness to them, I suspect they were being coached that way b/c I didn't see any reprocussions for those actions.
In fairness to them, I suspect they were being coached that way b/c I didn't see any reprocussions for those actions.
Posted on 6/21/10 at 12:15 pm to TigersfaninTN
I think it's safe to say that everybody is looking forward to seeing what Frank Wilson can do to improve RB technique, as well as letting the most talented athlete get the majority of snaps regardless of seniority. The same can be said for Gonzales with the WR's and Ensminger with the TE''s. Coaching SHOULD be improved all the way around offensively and lots of points SHOULD be scored this season. Too much talent not to. No more excuses this season. Oh, I forgot about the QB position, but I think even that situation will work itself out and not hold the offense back........
Posted on 6/21/10 at 1:58 pm to TigerBandAlumnus82
O-line was way too small for SEC play.
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