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i don't see the need for bitterness with Texas...
Posted on 6/16/10 at 8:47 pm
Posted on 6/16/10 at 8:47 pm
yes they will have an easy road - only playing Oklahoma. But Ohio State has been doing this for years now. they only had Michigan, now that they suck it's been 1 good out of conf. game a year, and that has been a beatdown every time.
don't blame Texas, a lot of suckers and morons in the Big 12 giving in.....
don't blame Texas, a lot of suckers and morons in the Big 12 giving in.....
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Posted on 6/16/10 at 8:50 pm to lsufan112001
so...it's ok to be bitter with Ohio State, but not okay because it's Texas doing the same thing?
If that's not the logic being used, I'm going to need an explanation.
If that's not the logic being used, I'm going to need an explanation.
Posted on 6/16/10 at 8:53 pm to lsufan112001
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i don't see the need for bitterness with Texas
Here, use my glasses, they might help.
Posted on 6/16/10 at 9:20 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
Well, for one, I don't like Texas. Or Ohio State for that matter. Mainly because the media is always building them up and kissing their arse right along with USC. But from what I have seen the past week or so, Texas has some scumbags running the show over there that even the mafia or street gangs would admire. They are going to take the money that Colorado and Nebraska have to pay for leaving the conference and split it up between UT, Texas A&M and OU. Good thing A&M had an option to go to the SEC or they would have got breadcrumbs like the rest of the members of that conference. I hope Nebraska does not pay and tells UT and the Big Whatever to kiss their 
Posted on 6/16/10 at 10:57 pm to Earthquake 88
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They are going to take the money that Colorado and Nebraska have to pay for leaving the conference and split it up between UT, Texas A&M and OU.
That was debunked. Check ESPN. That $ will be distributed evenly to all teams.
Posted on 6/16/10 at 11:10 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
They apparently wont be getting any money from Nebraska.
Posted on 6/16/10 at 11:47 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
I watched ESPN all day to day and they said on College Football Live that only Texas, Texas A&M and Oklahoma was going to to get the money and all the rest was going to get nothing from the monet that Colorado and Nebraska is supposed to give the Big 12. I more believe them than what you are saying unless you have a link showing otherwise. I personnaly hope they do not give anything to them if that is so.
Then the thing with Texas having their own network like LSU has with Tigervision, if they think they are going to make a lot of money off that they have another thing coming and that is it will depend on how many people will be willing to pay $50 a game at home or $250 for a bar owner to show it there. I do not believe there will be that many Texans willing to shell out that money every week that they will be allowed to show it. If there is another conference game within 80 or 90 miles of them playing then they will not be allowed to show the game and that is NCAA rules which goes before the conference rules. Now that might be the deal that ESPN worked out for them that there will be no TV games in the state of Texas when Texas plays and broadcasts there games over their own network, I do not know.
But it will not be as simple as they are making it out to be and maybe that is why they giving it 2 years to be up and running. For them to be able to show all their home games they will have to get a deal worked out with the NCAA and all the other teams in the state in order to be able to show the games and make them affailable for to broadcast. That is why there are only the games that do not mean a lot another words no conference games are shown on Tigervision only 2 maybe 3 games a year. They do not want to take people away from the stadium and that is what will happen if they are not careful.
Then the thing with Texas having their own network like LSU has with Tigervision, if they think they are going to make a lot of money off that they have another thing coming and that is it will depend on how many people will be willing to pay $50 a game at home or $250 for a bar owner to show it there. I do not believe there will be that many Texans willing to shell out that money every week that they will be allowed to show it. If there is another conference game within 80 or 90 miles of them playing then they will not be allowed to show the game and that is NCAA rules which goes before the conference rules. Now that might be the deal that ESPN worked out for them that there will be no TV games in the state of Texas when Texas plays and broadcasts there games over their own network, I do not know.
But it will not be as simple as they are making it out to be and maybe that is why they giving it 2 years to be up and running. For them to be able to show all their home games they will have to get a deal worked out with the NCAA and all the other teams in the state in order to be able to show the games and make them affailable for to broadcast. That is why there are only the games that do not mean a lot another words no conference games are shown on Tigervision only 2 maybe 3 games a year. They do not want to take people away from the stadium and that is what will happen if they are not careful.
Posted on 6/17/10 at 12:12 am to CaseyMc2
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“These five (Baylor, Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri and Iowa State) were looking at life without these three schools and not liking it,” Beebe said. “They felt there was little or no risk where we go with future media deals, and they said, ‘We don’t want them to leave because of money.’”
That penalty money, Beebe said Wednesday, could end up in the $18 million range each for Nebraska and Colorado.
“It’s only those five institutions’ money they’re talking about,” Beebe added. “If they want to give up all their money to some other school for charity, they could do it. It’s totally their prerogative.”
The presidents will convene by teleconference. The meeting had been scheduled for two weeks.
Texas president Bill Powers said Tuesday that the university would oppose such a deal, and Longhorns athletic director DeLoss Dodds suggested placing the exit penalty money into a Big 12 reserve fund.
“It was a generous offer that Texas said it was not willing to accept,” Beebe said. “I don’t know what the other two (A&M and Oklahoma) would do.”
Nebraska informed the Big 12 last week that it would leave the conference for the Big Ten, starting in 2011. Colorado followed by accepting an invitation to join the Pac-10 no later than 2012.
Beebe also said that league officials would meet soon to consider the possibility that Colorado could leave sooner than 2012.
“We don’t have anything to make them stay,” he said. “I think that’s something we’ll have to discuss.”
Officials at Texas and Texas A&M could not immediately be reached for comment. Texas Tech chancellor Kent Hance, however, said he was unsure whether the proposal would fly.
“It is my understanding that the University of Texas was not going to take that money,” Hance said. “That does not surprise me. Bill Powers and DeLoss Dodds are people of integrity, and they would not be involved in something like that, and I doubt anybody else would take that money.”
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Said Beebe: “They were willing, if necessary — and I fully anticipate when we do our future media deals it won’t be — to use some of the distribution they might get particularly from the departing members to make sure Texas A&M, Oklahoma and Texas were induced to stay."
Texas was appreciative of that gesture, Beebe said, though UT indicated it wasn’t “a driver for them to stay."
UT’s Powers said that there were no perks for the Longhorns. “We do not have any guarantees from the league or our northern partners," Powers said. “There have been reports that there is going to be a special deal for some of us, using penalty money or other money to guarantee Texas and other schools of particular value.
“We are not part of that. That was not part of our consideration, and we oppose that kind of deal. We will distribute money in the Big 12 according to the normal distribution."
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Posted on 6/17/10 at 12:15 am to lsufan112001
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i don't see the need for bitterness with Texas...
I do. It's a question of sportsmanship. The whole idea is to duke it out on a level playing field, and Texas tries to avoid this at every turn. They water down their schedule to get an advantage in getting to the MNCG. And then they go and make sure their conference distributes the wealth unevenly to put much of their in-conference competition at a disadvantage. It's just not how sports were meant to be. And Texas is good enough that they shouldn't need any extra help.
Posted on 6/17/10 at 12:16 am to UTexas
How are you going to spend all those good faith dollars?
Posted on 6/17/10 at 4:41 am to Dr Drunkenstein
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That was debunked. Check ESPN. That $ will be distributed evenly to all teams.
You might wanna watch a little ESPN there buddy. And, fwiw, I think the people on this site are smart enough to know by now that the chances of you posting anything truthful is just about as much as that fat arse sooner chick finding a weight watchers program and a fricking gym.
Posted on 6/17/10 at 5:32 am to lsufan112001
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i don't see the need for bitterness with Texas...
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But Ohio State has been doing this for years now
Okay then, so we can hate them both!! There's no problem with that!!
Posted on 6/17/10 at 6:55 am to SouGent
How is it Ohio State's fault that they have subpar conference opponents? At least they've scheduled some decent OOC games the last few years. They played Texas, USC, Miami this year and next then they will play a home and home with OU. As much as I despise their fans I think they run a classy program there. Even if you hate OSU for their bowl performance or national hype Jim Tressel is a classy guy.
Also Ohio State and Michigan are responsible for a large percentage of national viewership but the tv revenue pie is split evenly.
Also Ohio State and Michigan are responsible for a large percentage of national viewership but the tv revenue pie is split evenly.
This post was edited on 6/17/10 at 8:32 am
Posted on 6/17/10 at 8:09 am to CaseyMc2
Interesting rule concerning the 80-90 mile limit for another conference game. I think Waco (Baylor) may be within that distance. This could cause problems for UT. Maybe why they didn't want Baylor to go to Pac 10 when UT was planning to go to Pac 10 and have their own TV network.
This post was edited on 6/17/10 at 8:10 am
Posted on 6/17/10 at 8:23 am to lsufan112001
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But Ohio State has been doing this for years now
2007 maybe, but otherwise no.
Posted on 6/17/10 at 8:38 am to DocBugbear
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And then they go and make sure their conference distributes the wealth unevenly to put much of their in-conference competition at a disadvantage.
"They go"
You make it sound like Texas mandated this and everyone else had to live with it against their own wishes. The Big 12's method of TV revenue distribution was approved by all of the Big 12 members.
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They water down their schedule to get an advantage in getting to the MNCG.
During the 2005 season when Texas won their only recent title, the Horns went to Ohio State who was undefeated & #4. Texas was and is still the only team to win a night game in the Shoe. If that is a watered down schedule then there is no appeasing you.
If you want to go at Texas, fine, but for the love of Zeus, why not try to get at least one fact correct somewhere along the way......
This post was edited on 6/17/10 at 8:40 am
Posted on 6/17/10 at 8:47 am to Dr Drunkenstein
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If that is a watered down schedule then there is no appeasing you
well that is only 1 game and OU was not good that year, they lost to TCU and AD did not really play against UT (couple of carries maybe).
The 05 Texas teams was great, they would have won the SEC in 2005, but you don't win your CCG 70-3 playing halfway decent competetion.
Posted on 6/17/10 at 8:50 am to Dr Drunkenstein
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The Big 12's method of TV revenue distribution was approved by all of the Big 12 members.
Yeah, with a gun to their heads. What horseshite!!
Posted on 6/17/10 at 8:53 am to Michigan Man1817
quote:Agreed. We take shots at the Big 10 because, well, its funny and they get their kniokers in a bunch about it, but the truth is: the Big 10 is the second toughest conference in America. There's lots of quality programs, and even when teams are down, it's not being rigged by OSU like Texas is rigging the Big 12 by inequitable money distributions. If OSU's opponents aren't up to snuff, it's not OSU's fault.
How is it Ohio State's fault that they have subpar conference opponents? At least they've scheduled some decent OOC games the last few years. They played Texas, USC, Miami this year and next then they will play a home and home with OU. As much as I despise their fans I think they run a classy program there. Even if you hate OSU for their bowl performance or national hype Jim Tressel is a classy guy.
Yes, Texas backed down from its plan to distribute the penalty payments in the wake of outrage across the country. A penalty payment they will likely never collect, as Nebraska will fight it in court. Do you want a medal? If the plan had never become public, Texas would most certainly be going through with it... if they ever get the money, which is questionable.
Posted on 6/17/10 at 9:10 am to SouGent
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Yeah, with a gun to their heads. What horseshite!!
you're talking about now, why would Nebraska have had a gun to their head in 1994-95 when the Big 12 was being formed and these deals where agreed to? At the time NU was the top program in CFB, they were on TV a lot, so of course they agreed to more rev for teams on TV. Then they made a bad hire in Callahan and started sucking and not getting on TV, suddendly it was UT fault.
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