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BIG 10 network
Posted on 6/12/10 at 7:05 am
Posted on 6/12/10 at 7:05 am
Someone just tried to tell me that the Big 10 network makes more money than the SEC tv contract. Does anyone have an idea where I could get some numbers on that?
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Posted on 6/12/10 at 7:11 am to jmarto1
the total of the Big 10 television distributions makes more than the total the SEC distributes to their teams - and the margin/difference there is teh Big 10 cable network they have been developing the last few years
SEC has contracts with ESPN and CBS right now that work out to 150 million dollars a year (3 billion over 15 years) - and they pay out 17-19 million each year to each team.
Big 10 has a payout of around 20-22 million per team each year. And the difference is the Big 10 network.
So the Big 10 has more in guaranteed TV payouts yes
SEC has contracts with ESPN and CBS right now that work out to 150 million dollars a year (3 billion over 15 years) - and they pay out 17-19 million each year to each team.
Big 10 has a payout of around 20-22 million per team each year. And the difference is the Big 10 network.
So the Big 10 has more in guaranteed TV payouts yes
Posted on 6/12/10 at 7:15 am to molsusports
Which is why everyone talking about ND wanting their exclusive contract with NBC to remain is retarded.
ND's NBC payout= 8/9 million(can't remember which)
Big10 payout=20-22.
Northwestern laughs at ND's TV contract.
ND's NBC payout= 8/9 million(can't remember which)
Big10 payout=20-22.
Northwestern laughs at ND's TV contract.
Posted on 6/12/10 at 7:18 am to molsusports
The Big-10 took in $222 million total ($150 million from their TV deal + $72 from the Big-10 Network)
The SEC took in approximately $210 million (which is approximately $17.5 million per team) from their TV deal. Instead of a conference network, each team handles it independently. As I understand it UF alone brought in about $10 million. So all told the SEC brought in more money from TV than the Big-10.
The SEC took in approximately $210 million (which is approximately $17.5 million per team) from their TV deal. Instead of a conference network, each team handles it independently. As I understand it UF alone brought in about $10 million. So all told the SEC brought in more money from TV than the Big-10.
Posted on 6/12/10 at 7:21 am to DocBugbear
The PAC-10 took in $97 million ($9.7 million per team)
The Big East took in $66.6 million ($8.33 million per team)
The Big East took in $66.6 million ($8.33 million per team)
Posted on 6/12/10 at 7:22 am to DocBugbear
I know for sure the BTN only pulled $66 million in 2008 so don't see how it jumped up that much in a year.
Posted on 6/12/10 at 7:23 am to BuckeyeFan87
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Which is why everyone talking about ND wanting their exclusive contract with NBC to remain is retarded.
I will laugh my arse off when Notre Dame goes to one of the superconferences later on and ask to get in but the commissioner says "Seat's taken!"
Posted on 6/12/10 at 7:25 am to DocBugbear
I think the margin is larger than you just mentioned - but smaller than the alleged 17 million vs 22 million I've seen elsewhere.
But more importantly - you bring up a point people are passing over for the sake of simplification
The difference is one of philosophy. Big 10 has made the decision that they benefit most by banding together and making the Big 10 network a national or near national cable option. At present the SEC has taken the approach that individual teams are able to do their own private cable deals - which may make more money from devoted regional viewers in the short term - but may lose out for never becoming more than regional in the long term
I think what the SEC will have to reconsider is this approach - and decide they will benefit more in the long term by banding together to make a more national SEC cable network for all of the games that are not covered by ESPN and CBS
But more importantly - you bring up a point people are passing over for the sake of simplification
The difference is one of philosophy. Big 10 has made the decision that they benefit most by banding together and making the Big 10 network a national or near national cable option. At present the SEC has taken the approach that individual teams are able to do their own private cable deals - which may make more money from devoted regional viewers in the short term - but may lose out for never becoming more than regional in the long term
I think what the SEC will have to reconsider is this approach - and decide they will benefit more in the long term by banding together to make a more national SEC cable network for all of the games that are not covered by ESPN and CBS
Posted on 6/12/10 at 7:26 am to jmarto1
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I know for sure the BTN only pulled $66 million in 2008 so don't see how it jumped up that much in a year.
More viewership probably. I don't think the BTN is a set amount since it is owned by the conference.
Posted on 6/12/10 at 7:26 am to jmarto1
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BTN only pulled $66 million in 2008
didn't they start it in only 2006 or 2007?
Posted on 6/12/10 at 7:27 am to molsusports
Posted on 6/12/10 at 7:28 am to molsusports
I thought every SEC game is covered under the new tv contracts.
Posted on 6/12/10 at 7:38 am to molsusports
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didn't they start it in only 2006 or 2007?
I'm pretty sure 07. I remember being pissed during the 07 season I couldn't see four of OSU's games (Actually, I know it was 07, because it was only one year we couldn't see it, and I remember the Wisconsin game was on the BTN and the Illinois game was on ABC. That made me mad, but Wisky was a blowout, and Illinois was a great game in which they upset us on their way to the Rose Bowl). Then the next year, Time Warner got it.
This post was edited on 6/12/10 at 7:40 am
Posted on 6/12/10 at 7:43 am to Buckeye Fan 19
BTN was $72 million in 2009. (*sigh*)
Posted on 6/12/10 at 7:49 am to Buckeye Fan 19
Yeah, 07 was the year that Ohio State fans across the state were up in arms over that shite. I remember being extremely pissed(along with most everyone I knew who had Time Warner).
Posted on 6/12/10 at 7:54 am to DocBugbear
The reason the Big Ten Network is such a money machine is that it airs 24/7/365 in 40 million households now. The Big Ten gets a revenue stream year round from advertising, from subscribers whereas the SEC received a contract from ESPN and CBS from what the networks deemed them to be worth when they have a game on.
It would be harder for the SEC to make a national brand network as there are not enough alum spread across the country. I think the Big Ten has something like 4.5 million living alum (more than twice the SEC) many of whom are spread in the largest tv markets in America. The SEC does not have that same national pull. While the country will watch a Florida-LSU game the country isnt going to watch a LSU-La Tech game the way it does an Ohio State-Toledo game.
Also the SEC network was bought out by ESPN. I dont think the SEC can break a 2.25 billion dollar contract.
This is all a numbers game and the Big Ten has won this game by graduating more than twice as many people as any other conference over the decades. Big Ten schools are global institutions while many SEC schools aren't even really national entities.
It would be harder for the SEC to make a national brand network as there are not enough alum spread across the country. I think the Big Ten has something like 4.5 million living alum (more than twice the SEC) many of whom are spread in the largest tv markets in America. The SEC does not have that same national pull. While the country will watch a Florida-LSU game the country isnt going to watch a LSU-La Tech game the way it does an Ohio State-Toledo game.
Also the SEC network was bought out by ESPN. I dont think the SEC can break a 2.25 billion dollar contract.
This is all a numbers game and the Big Ten has won this game by graduating more than twice as many people as any other conference over the decades. Big Ten schools are global institutions while many SEC schools aren't even really national entities.
Posted on 6/12/10 at 7:54 am to BuckeyeFan87
That and also cable providers in big 10 country were just adding the BTN to peoples sports packages and not even asking them if the wanted it or not and charging them extra leaving them no choice if they wanted to keep their sports package with NHL network,MLB network,FSC and NBA TV.
If your a non big ten sports fan you would be extremely pissed. I imagine they would do the same moving into another major market
If your a non big ten sports fan you would be extremely pissed. I imagine they would do the same moving into another major market
Posted on 6/12/10 at 8:16 am to StraightCashHomey21
The Big 10 Network is a huge success. Big 10 fans can watch every single football game and almost every Basketball game in HD without paying for a subscription.
The Big 10 Network makes most of its money from just being added to a cable provider. As they get added to more and more cable providers in new markets, the revenue just keeps going up, which is why they had a huge jump in revenue from the beginning of the network to now. The best thing about the Big 10 network is that there isn't a ceiling on the amount. With the addition of Nebraska, the amount of money will go up per team.
The Big 10 Network makes most of its money from just being added to a cable provider. As they get added to more and more cable providers in new markets, the revenue just keeps going up, which is why they had a huge jump in revenue from the beginning of the network to now. The best thing about the Big 10 network is that there isn't a ceiling on the amount. With the addition of Nebraska, the amount of money will go up per team.
Posted on 6/12/10 at 8:41 am to coldhotwings
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I will laugh my arse off when Notre Dame goes to one of the superconferences later on and ask to get in but the commissioner says "Seat's taken!"
Me too. I think that the Big Ten should say..."screw you" Notre Dame and add Missouri and the 2 Kansas Schools. Notre Dame has been asked three times and they've said no each time. if they do accept, then it would be for the wrong reasons and out of desperation. IMHO
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