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Hornets Board: Tyson Chandler allegedly healthy and opting out

Posted on 6/11/10 at 2:24 pm
Posted by TigerinATL
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Posted on 6/11/10 at 2:24 pm
If true someone needs to go kick Bower in the nuts repeatedly.
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It looks like I may need to add another name to my Top Free Agent List this summer.

A source close to the situation told ESPN.com that Bobcats big man Tyson Chandler is seriously considering exercising an early termination option on his contract this summer.

...The same source said that Chandler is now totally healthy and working out in California preparing for the 2010 season.

"He's gotten all of his issues taken care of," the source said, "and he's gearing up to have a big year next season. I think you're going to see the same Tyson who played so well for the Hornets a few years ago."

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Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 6/11/10 at 2:25 pm to
no thanks
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 6/11/10 at 2:25 pm to
Man that trade is looking worse and worse and worse.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 6/11/10 at 2:26 pm to
i think he's talking about the contract part. if bower had held on to tc we'd be possibly done with him now, instead we have okafor and his shite contract until 2015 or so.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 6/11/10 at 2:30 pm to
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i think he's talking about the contract part.


I think it applies to both angles. If Tyson is actually healthy he's one of the pieces we're missing and you could have extended him. If he's just in a good spot right now and will break down again eventually you'd let him leave and clear enough cap space to avoid the tax and use the MLE. I wasn't saying sign him he thinks he'll get a good bit more than the MLE anyway.
This post was edited on 6/11/10 at 2:31 pm
Posted by Slickback
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Posted on 6/11/10 at 2:31 pm to
I'd like to see him back if he plays like he did before he got hurt, and is looking a small salary.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 6/11/10 at 2:32 pm to
easy to say in hindsight
Posted by LSUshad
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Posted on 6/11/10 at 2:32 pm to
Crescent City Connection!!!
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61586 posts
Posted on 6/11/10 at 2:35 pm to
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easy to say in hindsight


So we shouldn't judge Bower based on his actual results, just his intentions? We all liked the Okafor trade at the time, but the pro GM is supposed to be better at his job than the fans and at the very least he should have known Okafor wouldn't be a good fit and would be hard to trade since he's considered one of the worst contracts in the league. In hindsight a good GM would have never made that trade.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/11/10 at 2:36 pm to
if he's healthy, he's worth 3 years at the MLE without a doubt
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 6/11/10 at 2:39 pm to
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In hindsight a good GM would have never made that trade.




and we would have played all season with Sean Marks as our Center?

awesome

people writing off Okafor are stupid. His contract sucks, but we have to deal with him for now. New coach, new system. He could easily be rejuvenated and become a solid player for us.

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So we shouldn't judge Bower based on his actual results, just his intentions?


no GM is perfect. Of course he should be based on final results. But I would definitely be hesitant to do so, especially if you liked the move at the time, which about 90% of Hornet fans did.

if you dont think you are smart enough to comment on it and gauge the importance of the trade at the time, then dont say anything at all.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 6/11/10 at 2:40 pm to
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if he's healthy, he's worth 3 years at the MLE without a doubt


I don't think he's opting out for the MLE.
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The other thing working in Chandler's favor is that there aren't really any true centers in free agency this summer and a number of teams with cap space including the Thunder, Knicks, Timberwolves, Wizards and Heat need a center badly.

Pair those two factors together and Chandler could be in a for a big payday this summer. While it's unlikely he can get a starting contract at $12.6 million per year, he should be able to snag a 4 or 5 year deal in the $10 million per year range and get some security before the collective bargaining agreement changes next summer.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 6/11/10 at 2:41 pm to
it's a bad contract for an average to slightly above average player. how is that a surprise? we needed all the flexibility we can get and bower traded for the type of contract that's going to cause a new cba.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/11/10 at 2:44 pm to
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I don't think he's opting out for the MLE.

i think the money dries up before teams go to sign him

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4 or 5 year deal in the $10 million per year range

if chandler, who has been absolutely hobbled for 2 years in a row and has other injury issues, and who was only moderately effective on offense catching alleys from cp3, gets a 5/50 contract david stern may just shoot whatever GM vies out that deal and shut down the NBA
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 6/11/10 at 2:44 pm to
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if you dont think you are smart enough to comment on it and gauge the importance of the trade at the time, then dont say anything at all


If there's any place for an uneducated comment, it's an Internet message board.

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and we would have played all season with Sean Marks as our Center?


Marks was injured, we'd have either signed a garbage player like Barron or had a lot more fun with West and Songaila. The point is, if this isn't just fluff and Tyson is actually healed and not in danger of breaking down again, it's one of the biggest medical evaluation screw ups since Miami passed on Drew Brees. The fans would have waited another year for the CCC to return if they knew he was coming back.

ETA: I've always seen "degenerative" attached to his foot condition, anyone have any idea if he could actually be healthy enough to justify the 4-5 year deal he'd need for opting out to make sense?
This post was edited on 6/11/10 at 2:49 pm
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 6/11/10 at 2:46 pm to
we could have just signed wilcox for 2-3 mil to be our center for one season. bower had originally traded for him in the okc deal which was actually pretty solid.
Posted by cajun33tiger
Charlotte, NC
Member since Sep 2007
541 posts
Posted on 6/11/10 at 2:52 pm to
As a Charlotte resident, this is great news. TC looked absolutely horrible for the Bobcats and was a huge waste of money. Good riddance!
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278771 posts
Posted on 6/11/10 at 2:53 pm to
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d Tyson is actually healed and not in danger of breaking down again


dude Tyson sucked when he was healthy the last time we saw him in a Hornets uniform.

and he has a horrible attitude. He was CP3's friend, but his demeanor at times was detrimental to the team.

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If there's any place for an uneducated comment, it's an Internet message board.



and if there is any place to call you out on it, its an internet message board.

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The fans would have waited another year for the CCC to return if they knew he was coming back.




the pick and roll was NON EXISTENT after our playoff run. Tyson Chandler suffered immensely when teams figured out what the Hornets were doing. ANd his rebounding was down as well, to make matters worse. And he was a whiny bitch

AHHHH HE SLAM DUNKED!!! HE MUST BE AWESOME!!!!!!!
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 6/11/10 at 2:53 pm to
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As a Charlotte resident, this is great news. TC looked absolutely horrible for the Bobcats and was a huge waste of money. Good riddance!


Better than having Okafor's ridiculous albatross contract.
Posted by cajun33tiger
Charlotte, NC
Member since Sep 2007
541 posts
Posted on 6/11/10 at 2:55 pm to
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Better than having Okafor's ridiculous albatross contract.


Are you sure? Okafor looked miles better than Chandler and he did not have the attitude problems that Tyson has.
This post was edited on 6/11/10 at 2:56 pm
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