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"I want assurances this will never happen again before drilling...
Posted on 6/7/10 at 11:02 am
Posted on 6/7/10 at 11:02 am
can commence" - obama.
How in the hell can anyone make this claim? Did he ask the coal industry to assure no one would ever die in a mine again? Does he make nuclear power plants make this pledge? We have to do everything we can to prevent something like this from happening again, but to make an absolute statement like that would be foolish on anyones part.
How in the hell can anyone make this claim? Did he ask the coal industry to assure no one would ever die in a mine again? Does he make nuclear power plants make this pledge? We have to do everything we can to prevent something like this from happening again, but to make an absolute statement like that would be foolish on anyones part.
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Posted on 6/7/10 at 11:08 am to TJG210
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"I want assurances this will never happen again before drilling...
can commence" - obama.
Stupidity at it's best. This is happened only 2 times that I can think of. The first time more people died, and there was no oil spill, now only 4 die and oil is being lost. I guess lives are less important than oil.
Posted on 6/7/10 at 11:10 am to TJG210
Said from the start that whatever is said needs to be examined because it was probably going to contain phrases that on the surface seems okay, but real intent isn't geared at safety concerns, but crippling the oil industry.
That acoustic system that the politicans are bitching about is a prime suspect. Would provide zero safety benefit but would essentially ban ultra deep water drilling where massive reserves are being found.
That acoustic system that the politicans are bitching about is a prime suspect. Would provide zero safety benefit but would essentially ban ultra deep water drilling where massive reserves are being found.
This post was edited on 6/7/10 at 11:13 am
Posted on 6/7/10 at 11:14 am to Volvagia
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but crippling the oil industry in the Gulf of Mexico.
FIFY
The oil industry will just move to Brazil and other area of the world. The people most effected will be the workers along the Gulf Coast and not the oil industry.
Posted on 6/7/10 at 11:21 am to RPC4LSU
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The oil industry will just move to Brazil and other area of the world
Correct. Had a guy in my office this morning scrambling to make his offshore supply vessel that is currently under construction SOLAS compliant so that it can work over seas.
Posted on 6/7/10 at 11:27 am to bayoudude
I know a guy who is scrambling to find temp work for his rigs (either in Mexico (Southern GOM)or doing workover in US waters). They are rushing a redesigned BOP to be commissioned ASAP and will be one of the first back in the Deepwater GOM. They plan to take advantage of the exorbitant day rates available to the first drillers back. They expect a windfall. They will bring their workers with them (those that want to go).
Posted on 6/7/10 at 11:29 am to Sid in Lakeshore
I just hope Chouest is bluffing about the 1k+ layoffs.
Posted on 6/7/10 at 11:31 am to bayoudude
He cant afford to pay people just to sit there when there is nothing to do 
Posted on 6/7/10 at 11:32 am to mylsuhat
I agree. This will have a huge ripple effect on the Terrebonne/ Lafourche areas.
Posted on 6/7/10 at 11:35 am to bayoudude
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bluffing
This may be the case...I hope.
Gary Chouest is a savy business man. By announcing layoffs, perhaps he is hoping to make the fed gov consider just how serious a deepwater moratorium would be, not only to the local economy, but also oil prices down the road.
Posted on 6/7/10 at 11:36 am to Douglas Quaid
The White house has no idea how important Fourchon is to the country... they'll learn soon
Posted on 6/7/10 at 11:37 am to bayoudude
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I just think Chouest is bluffing about the 1k+ layoffs.
Fixed: How much of his business is DRILLING dependent? All production, workover, PA/TA, removal, inspection, etc. is to continue. In fact, all but production will likely increase.
Posted on 6/7/10 at 11:47 am to TJG210
If there was a nuclear accident on this scale, the nuclear industry would most certainly cease to exist in the US for a long time.
This post was edited on 6/7/10 at 11:48 am
Posted on 6/7/10 at 11:51 am to NukemVol
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If there was a nuclear accident on this scale, the nuclear industry would most certainly cease to exist in the US for a long time.
How long was it untill the next reactor was opened after 3-mile island? How long does the approval process take for nuclear reactors?
Posted on 6/7/10 at 12:13 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
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How long was it untill the next reactor was opened after 3-mile island?
None have been opened since then. None at all.
However, there's been a resurgence of interest and several new ones are at various stages in the approval process. I think two in Georgia got regulatory approval this year.
Posted on 6/7/10 at 12:18 pm to foshizzle
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None have been opened since then. None at all.
Kind proves my point. Untill assurances can be given, assurances that are beleivable, deepwater drilling will not move forward.
What it will take to make those assurances believable, I don't know. Minimally, from the industry side, I would expect re-designed BOP's and realistic well intervention plans in case of blow-out. Apparently, based on BP's constant harping on water depth hindering current efforts, some form of new technology is required for the latter (maybe not, maybe just some fore-thought in planning).
Posted on 6/7/10 at 12:31 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
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assurances that are beleivable,
Are you really that stupid? I don't mean to be a jerk, but come on. This is the first accident of this scale in 30 years plus of drilling in deepwater. It's not like this is rampant, and please before you make all of these assertions about how unsafe and unregulated things are, please state your qualifications to say such a thing. Have you ever been offshore? Have you worked in the industry? Or are you going off of wisdom you've learned from watching the nightly news?
Posted on 6/7/10 at 12:33 pm to foshizzle
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foshizzle
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How long was it untill the next reactor was opened after 3-mile island?
None have been opened since then. None at all.
However, there's been a resurgence of interest and several new ones are at various stages in the approval process. I think two in Georgia got regulatory approval this year.
There have been new plants come online since TMI (licenses filed before the accident like Watts Bar); however, no new licenses have been approved since then (although none have been applied for either).
I suppose the "assurance" for the new wave of plants expected to come online would be the fact that this generation's design involves a passively safe design as oppose to actively safe designs. So it could be said that this did happen to the nuclear industry.
However, this is a slight apples to oranges comparisons since a nuclear accident, I'm talking a Chernobyle not a scare like TMI, would involve some awful shite.
Posted on 6/7/10 at 12:35 pm to bayoudude
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agree. This will have a huge ripple effect on the Terrebonne/ Lafourche areas.
this will cripple texas, louisiana, and mobile bay, this does not affect just OFFSHORE WORKERS! It affects all workers inland also who work on equipment that goes offshore like sleds, plets, trees, BOP's, jumpers, SCR's, SCT's, and casing strings, drill strings, etc. this AFFECTS EVERYONE! all the way to the truck drivers who deliver materials and equipment to the fitter and welders to the inspectors and supervisors, project managers, roustabouts, operators, engineers,dispatch guys, you name it and will affect them in some way.
This post was edited on 6/7/10 at 12:36 pm
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