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Why wasn't top kill their first priority?

Posted on 5/25/10 at 10:47 am
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 5/25/10 at 10:47 am
I know there's probably an explanation that i'm just don't understand but why is the "top kill" taking so long to try and why couldnt' this be the first thing they did to eliminate the leak completely ASAP?

Posted by Tigerstudent08
Lakeview
Member since Apr 2007
5776 posts
Posted on 5/25/10 at 10:50 am to
Because the top kill will not work. They had to seal off the BOP and when that was impossible the only real option is the relief well.
Posted by MoreOrLes
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 5/25/10 at 10:52 am to
Not to mention it could make it worse.
Posted by back9Tiger
Island Coconut Salesman
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 5/25/10 at 10:53 am to
I am still curious on how this could make it worse. But seems they top kill is the most complex of the solutions so they wanted to try easier ideas. hell I don't know this is just confusing as can been. they had to change a control panel and modify the BOP for this top kill, i know that is why it is taking so long.
Posted by Venicetiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2004
6152 posts
Posted on 5/25/10 at 10:57 am to
Top-kill could cause (wellhead collapse, fracturing the BOP, etc.)
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20580 posts
Posted on 5/25/10 at 11:02 am to
Had to replace parts and get equipment installed. Watch the video that on the "top kill question" post.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61304 posts
Posted on 5/25/10 at 11:05 am to
quote:

Top-kill could cause (wellhead collapse, fracturing the BOP, etc.)


This.
I can promise you, these folks and all of the industry experts involved aren't sitting around somewhere flipping coins and looking at magic 8 balls to guess what to do in what order.
Posted by Venicetiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2004
6152 posts
Posted on 5/25/10 at 11:09 am to
LINK

You mean this one that looks like it was made by an 8th grader for a science fair?
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20580 posts
Posted on 5/25/10 at 11:12 am to
No the in-depth one, quit playing stupid. I reposted it, "should watch this"
Posted by Rex
Here, there, and nowhere
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 5/25/10 at 11:19 am to
The BIGGEST question is why all these possible solutions were not martialed all at once and placed on standby? It looks like each new attempted solution was initiated from ground zero only after the previous one failed.
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
49840 posts
Posted on 5/25/10 at 11:21 am to
because you dont know what the negative effects are going to be of a failed attempt at stopping it so all of your peramaters are going to be changing everytime
Posted by PinevilleTiger
Pineville, LA
Member since Sep 2005
6358 posts
Posted on 5/25/10 at 11:55 am to
Remember, this well is a huge producer for BP. The ridiculous funnel gadget they tried at first would have allowed them to continue to produce from this find, topkill kills the find. Thus, no more profit.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 5/25/10 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

It looks like each new attempted solution was initiated from ground zero only after the previous one failed.


ONLY TO THE UNINFORMED......
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 5/25/10 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

Remember, this well is a huge producer for BP.


If you do not know what you are talking about.....better to remain quiet.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61304 posts
Posted on 5/25/10 at 12:29 pm to
Guys, saving the well had zero to do with how BP proceeded with trying to fix this. Get it in your head.

Also, there is a good possibility that quite a few things were damaged down there and have been getting repaired all along to allow this top kill to be even attempted now.
Not sure if it was even possible before, but I know they were worried about trying it right away because it could have just caused the whole BOP/cap to become unstable and allow an even bigger oil gusher than we have now.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
89772 posts
Posted on 5/25/10 at 12:47 pm to
quote:

Also, there is a good possibility that quite a few things were damaged down there and have been getting repaired all along to allow this top kill to be even attempted now.

LINK
quote:

Before the process could begin, however, it was necessary to significantly modify the blow-out preventer (BOP) that sits on the top of the well. For those interested (its a bit like watching one of the operations on the space station) BP has assembled a short (5 minute) selection of the video footage of the various steps. When watching it, you should bear in mind that the ROV’s carrying out the different steps have to operate in a relatively crowded environment.

The tasks to be done included removing, modifying and replacing the control box (or pod) that operates the valves that open and close the flow lines into the choke and kill lines on the well. Other than this, the flow lines to the flow and choke lines themselves had to be replaced with the feed lines (shown in the animation) that will carry the mud into the well. Even tightening a fitting that had worked loose takes time, when it has to be done using an ROV (with the operator at the surface needing to see what he is doing while getting the ROV to hold the necessary wrench and turn the fitting). The old feed lines then had to be cut from the BOP, and replaced.

This involved
* cutting off the choke and kill line connectors
* Cutting the bolts on a flange
* Removing the clamp
* Removing the pipe flange end
* Buffing and cleaning the pipe end
* Preparing to attach the new jumper lines. (This had to be done for each feed line)
* A special hydraulic connector attached to the 150-ft jumper cables was used to latch onto the old inlets. This is slow work (as the video shows) and as a result this part of the work has taken seven days. (The jumper shown in the video was attached on the 16th and chained down into position on the 17th.)


When the connections and fittings have all been made and checked, and the control pod operation validated, and the necessary permits from MMS and others obtained, then the process can begin.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61304 posts
Posted on 5/25/10 at 12:49 pm to
See, why can't this information get put in every newspaper and posted on every message board.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
89772 posts
Posted on 5/25/10 at 12:52 pm to
a person is smart

people are stupid
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