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Proposal for making the cofferdam effective

Posted on 5/12/10 at 11:42 am
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 5/12/10 at 11:42 am
I made this proposal recently at my job and I was shot down. Our company is directly involved in the accident and our management doesn't want to pursue any thing regarding the spill. So I post it here and if someone in the industry that understands it wants to take it and run with it you have my blessing.

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The recent attempts at setting a cofferdam over the riser leak on the Deepwater Horizon spill have failed and it appears through media reports that they are concerned with the hydrate (methane chlathrate) field surrounding the leak interfering with the setting of the cofferdam. The hollow cofferdam accumulates icing inside and around the apparatus causing buoyancy factors to make it unstable as is it lowered into position over the riser leak. I propose that CaCl brine in a liquid and then gel form may be applied to the site and the cofferdam to alleviate the icing. CaCl is a non-toxic material that is readily available. It is commonly used in de-icing operations on roadways and runways and it has a mildly exothermic reaction when it comes into contact with water. Methane chlarate (hydrates) has a density of 0.98gm/cm3 and CaCl has a density of 1.98gm/cm3. This density differential should allow for displacement of the hydrates away from the leaking riser.

There is HEC gel/polymer technology out there familiar to our Drilling units to gel up higher weight brines like CaCl. CaCl brine (12lb/gl) can be gelled up in to a solid (ultra stiff) gel pill that could be pumped into the cofferdam from the top that would allow the hydrates around the wellhead to be displaced. This would create added weight to the box that should allow them to manipulate it and set it over the wellhead. So first they should flood the leaking riser with liquid CaCl to remove as much of the methane chlarate (hydrate) away from the area. Then they pump the gelled CaCl into the top of the box, displacing the remaining hydrates and adding mass to the cofferdam. As the gelled CaCl is pumped through the cofferdam it would pass through the cofferdam to the riser leak and displace the hydrates away from the leaking riser. This would create a “channel” for the cofferdam to follow down to the sea floor. As the cofferdam got closer to the seafloor the gelled CaCl would “back up" into the cofferdam and displace the hydrates accumulating in the head space of the cofferdam. This would give the cofferdam the much-needed mass to combat the turbulence of the leak and make it stable for the ROV units to maneuver it.


It looks like that box is about 10x15x40, which would put it at 6000ft3 give or take. That means they could add potentially +/-500,000 pounds of gelled brine inside the cofferdam


1ft3 is 7.48gl, 6000ft3 is 44800gl, CaCl is 12#/gl, the cofferdam could theoretically hold 537,600 pounds of gel. The cofferdam itself weighs 100 tons (200,000 pounds roughly) and has proven to be too buoyant to hold against the hydrates around the wellhead. By using a weighted gel pill they could theoretically weight the box to 700,000 pounds (350 tons) give or take.


If necessary they could then run line through the cofferdam like a stinger pumping methanol (or the hydrate inhibitor/glycol product suggested) directly around the riser leak inhibiting the new hydrates pouring out of the well. Then they could run the pump intake line directly into the flow of the wellhead and crank up the pumps on the surface. The wellhead flowing pressure would push the gel away from the rupture creating a working area around the leak. This intake stinger would pull the oil/hydrate/methanol mix up the line into the tanker. The methanol or hydrate inhibitor mixed in with the leaking hydrates and oil should prevent the intake line to the tanker developing a hydrate plug.

The gel pill would be impervious to methanol or our hydrate inhibitor/glycol product but it would gradually degrade and dissipate. If the engineers felt it was necessary they could just replenish the gel weight with more gel and maintain the mass of the box to continue to displace the hydrates. Since the majority of the hydrates would be displaced and/or depleted by pumping and inhibiting during the initial process to set the cofferdam, it would not take nearly as much mass to maintain the operation as it would to get the box set and kick off the initial pumping operations.

Posted by Jefferson Darcy
Next to Al
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 5/12/10 at 2:00 pm to
i like it, now get out there and do it. Godspeed.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
26550 posts
Posted on 5/12/10 at 2:04 pm to
supa, remember our deal...80/20 split of all revenue from this...80 to me.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
89738 posts
Posted on 5/12/10 at 4:54 pm to
Deal
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17734 posts
Posted on 5/12/10 at 5:08 pm to
cliff notes please?
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
89738 posts
Posted on 5/12/10 at 11:03 pm to
leak is surrounded by snow cone ice

box has no way to combat snow cone ice from accumulating

my proposal would push the snow cone ice away from the leak

box would then slide straight down over the leak

chemical would be pumped into the box to prevent snow cone from forming in the intake line to the tanker

Posted by CoonassatTEXAS
Austin, TX
Member since Nov 2005
1241 posts
Posted on 5/12/10 at 11:11 pm to
was this rejected by someone with real authority at your company or just some middle management bureaucrat?

Did they give a detailed reason why it was rejected or did they just blow you off out of fear of "rocking the boat"
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
89738 posts
Posted on 5/12/10 at 11:20 pm to
quote:

was this rejected by someone with real authority at your company or just some middle management bureaucrat?


to my knowledge it never got to upper management

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Did they give a detailed reason why it was rejected or did they just blow you off out of fear of "rocking the boat"


I was told to refocus my efforts on our existing market base

So the idea is here for anyone to read it and act on it however they see fit. What I wanted was our Technical Engineering Group to get a hold of it and work out the actual fluid dynamics and engineering of it to determine the feasibility of making a direct proposal to bp.

It never got that far
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/13/10 at 12:11 am to
Supa......

I know the hydrate formation was quite dramatic. Hook load went to naugth very quickly as the coffer damn got positioned over the leak. Before they "wet parked" the coffer damn, they had rov's scraping the methane hydrates off the structure so that it would not go mobile as it had basically achieved neutral buoyancy. Not sure if the gel could push the hydrates away from the nipple, but maybe so. Good luck.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28149 posts
Posted on 5/13/10 at 12:20 am to
Isn't this basically what they are doing with the new, smaller box?
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
89738 posts
Posted on 5/13/10 at 7:39 am to
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Not sure if the gel could push the hydrates away from the nipple, but maybe so. Good luck.



in my theory a flood of liquid CaCl would be pushed through the box to the leak area mitigating a significant portion of existing hydrates. The gelled CaCl would then be pumped through the box to displace the remaining hydrates around the leak and in the box head space.

remember the hydrates solidified on the inside and outside of the metal box (they have an affinity for metal) but they are not in a solid state on the sea floor. I used "snow cone ice" as a visual because that is what they are. Mushy, wet ice and liquids. flooding the area through the cofferdam with CaCl could eliminate a significant portion of hydrates and create a small window of opportunity to set the cofferdam on the leaking riser.
This post was edited on 5/13/10 at 7:42 am
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
89738 posts
Posted on 5/13/10 at 7:41 am to
quote:

Isn't this basically what they are doing with the new, smaller box?



yeah but my concern with the smaller box is it may be unstable during the setting process due to the turbulence created by the leak itself. The tophat is very small and it is at the end of 5000+ ft of cable
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
52885 posts
Posted on 5/13/10 at 7:48 am to
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Our company is directly involved in the accident and our management doesn't want to pursue any thing regarding the spill.


What....they want to lie low and stay out of the limelight hoping all of the flak stays on BP?
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
89738 posts
Posted on 5/13/10 at 7:56 am to
quote:

What....they want to lie low and stay out of the limelight hoping all of the flak stays on BP?


no

they want to stop any and all involvement with this situation to create a stopping point for our company in the event's timeline for the inevitable legal issues.

technically our company's involvement in this situation ended at the point where the well blew out and the rig was abandoned. it appears that our management wants to keep the company's involvement ended at that specific point in time.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
52885 posts
Posted on 5/13/10 at 7:56 am to
Gotchya
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
28014 posts
Posted on 5/13/10 at 12:25 pm to
Supa, I don't know if what you are saying is true or not, as I am an accountant, but let me say this, you da man! Sounds good to me
This post was edited on 5/13/10 at 8:42 pm
Posted by Archie Bengal Bunker
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Posted on 5/13/10 at 12:55 pm to
You or someone else can probably submit this anonymously @:



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This post was edited on 5/13/10 at 12:56 pm
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
89738 posts
Posted on 5/13/10 at 1:55 pm to
I forwarded it to the email address on the link
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
89738 posts
Posted on 5/14/10 at 11:34 am to
still havent heard anything
Posted by Archie Bengal Bunker
Member since Jun 2008
15595 posts
Posted on 5/14/10 at 11:47 am to
Yeah, I just recalled seeing an idea-line, kind of like a tip line, on the news. I'm not sure if this is the same contact, but it probably is. I'm sure someone in the field with some pull could move this a lot farther and faster, but I didn't think it would hurt to try to submit it this route, too. Who knows how many suggestions they are getting a day. Probably feels like its coming from every direction. You know like everyone has a thought or idea, which kind of washes out the really good ones.
This post was edited on 5/14/10 at 11:51 am
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