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Little update on the sea turtles here on the coast.......

Posted on 5/7/10 at 8:44 am
Posted by HebertFest08
The Coast
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 5/7/10 at 8:44 am
All of the 20 or so turtles found dead on the beach this past week were not oil related..... They were the work of the wonderful seafood industry... the shrimpers to be exact. Death by shrimp nets.
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 5/7/10 at 8:46 am to
How do you know this?
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/7/10 at 8:48 am to
quote:


All of the 20 or so turtles found dead on the beach this past week were not oil related..... They were the work of the wonderful seafood industry... the shrimpers to be exact. Death by shrimp nets.



I heard this but I don't believe it
Posted by HebertFest08
The Coast
Member since Aug 2008
6459 posts
Posted on 5/7/10 at 8:50 am to
stated day before yesterday.... I've heard on several sources.
Posted by CoonassatTEXAS
Austin, TX
Member since Nov 2005
1241 posts
Posted on 5/7/10 at 8:52 am to
thanks shrimpers...

are they not using that release gate in the net? Did they take it out in order to catch as many shrimp as possible before the oil came through?
Posted by Big L
Houston
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 5/7/10 at 9:04 am to
Actually one of the "positives" that could come out of this is keeping the shrimpers off the waters a little longer...those guys do so much damage to the eco-system due to by-catch. all you fisherman who complain about only being able to keep 2 measly snapper over a two month season can largely thank the shrimpers. It's such a frigging primitive way to harvest...that and longlining should be banned or they need to figure out a way to significantly reduce or eliminate by-catch.
Posted by Tommy Patel
Member since Apr 2006
7558 posts
Posted on 5/7/10 at 9:09 am to
quote:

I heard this but I don't believe it


+1
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25835 posts
Posted on 5/7/10 at 9:31 am to
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Actually one of the "positives" that could come out of this is keeping the shrimpers off the waters a little longer...those guys do so much damage to the eco-system due to by-catch. all you fisherman who complain about only being able to keep 2 measly snapper over a two month season can largely thank the shrimpers. It's such a frigging primitive way to harvest...that and longlining should be banned or they need to figure out a way to significantly reduce or eliminate by-catch


Couldn't agree more If you have ever spent any time pulling a trawl the by catch is sickening. Hundreds of juvenile trout and flounder can be caught in a 40 minute drag with even a small recreational trawl of 16'. These large boats pulling five nets at a time kill thousands of fish a day.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 5/7/10 at 9:37 am to
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It's such a frigging primitive way to harvest...


Problem is there's not good effecient "modern" alternative method to harvest wild shrimp. At least not one I'm aware of.
Posted by HebertFest08
The Coast
Member since Aug 2008
6459 posts
Posted on 5/7/10 at 9:42 am to
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I heard this but I don't believe it

It was local biologist, not oil companies saying this....
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 5/7/10 at 9:43 am to
quote:

Hundreds of juvenile trout and flounder can be caught in a 40 minute drag with even a small recreational trawl of 16'. These large boats pulling five nets at a time kill thousands of fish a day.


I agree with you about the fish, and it sickens me to know what really goes on, but TURTLES?? Come on, there are some many fricking sea turtles out there there should be a season on them.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 5/7/10 at 9:47 am to
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but TURTLES?? Come on, there are some many fricking sea turtles out there there should be a season on them.


pardon my ignorance but I thought they were more endangered than that? Maybe its a different type of turtle.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 5/7/10 at 9:48 am to
double post
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Posted by Tommy Patel
Member since Apr 2006
7558 posts
Posted on 5/7/10 at 9:50 am to
quote:

Problem is there's not good effecient "modern" alternative method to harvest wild shrimp. At least not one I'm aware of.




needs some tweaking but can be done
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 5/7/10 at 9:51 am to
There are different types of sea turtles, Green Sea Turtles and Ridley Turtles.. There are five species of endangered and threatened sea turtles in the gulf. Most of them nest on Mexico and Texas

This post was edited on 5/7/10 at 9:54 am
Posted by Big L
Houston
Member since Sep 2005
6003 posts
Posted on 5/7/10 at 9:59 am to
quote:

Problem is there's not good effecient "modern" alternative method to harvest wild shrimp. At least not one I'm aware of.


I'm sure that there are ways to significantly reduce by-catch, but it would also probably reduce the harvest as well, just like TED's do. All that means it would make shrimp more expensive and harder to compete with foreign shrimp. I know that shrimp farming is being practiced but also aware that it has it's own negative ecological effects.

I would agree to stop eating shrimp or pay twice as much for it if it would stop the trawlers.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25835 posts
Posted on 5/7/10 at 10:04 am to
quote:

I would agree to stop eating shrimp or pay twice as much for it if it would stop the trawlers.


Same here.
Posted by Fratastic423
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
5990 posts
Posted on 5/7/10 at 11:06 am to
quote:

Ridley Turtles


I was under the impression that these were the 20 that were killed
Posted by sharkfhin
Water
Member since Sep 2008
4740 posts
Posted on 5/7/10 at 11:14 am to
i for one dont believe it......i wanna see the dead turtles and ill tell you if they were caught in nets from shrimp boats....

the story about catching snapper...that isnt accurate....not many adult snapper are caught in shrimp nets....many times fisherman keep crabs and some fish to harvest at seafood shops and not many adult snapper are brought in....

the time they told shrimpers they had to fish for a week and they shut down...many of the shrimpers where not ready and they had to scramble to get ready and work for a weeks pay...yeah a weeks pay, not a season on the la coast....virtually impossible to have time to alter nets ...first you have to take them off, that takes time and work and then re thread them ...put it back on from the net company in which they would have been backed up for days fixing them according to what people think shrimpers did(fixing the net or closing the ted)heck even if the ted device was tampered with on all of the boats....that many turtles still would not have been caught....maybe sick ones or dead ones maybe... one or two...but not 20.....

i CALL bullshite....like i said...let me see the turtles and ill tell you if they were dragged in a net....
This post was edited on 5/7/10 at 11:23 am
Posted by sharkfhin
Water
Member since Sep 2008
4740 posts
Posted on 5/7/10 at 11:14 am to
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