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Tools: weird marketing strategy
Posted on 3/12/10 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 3/12/10 at 1:08 pm
So, I need to paint my iron fence. But I notice some rust. Can't use my sander because it's got a cord. Need a cordless sander.
Went to Lowe's and found one for only $35. Sounded cheap but what the heck. Brought it home and opened it up. No power pack and no charger.
So, I look more closely at the outside of the box, which is 90% Spanish. In small print "battery pack and charger sold separately".
So, I go back to Lowe's and tell the guy I need to buy a battery pack and charger.
Him: "Nope, you don't want to do that. You want to buy the cordless tool kit. It's cheaper than the battery and charger."
Me: "OK, so I can return the sander and buy the kit."
Him: "No, there is no sander in the kit. You need to keep your sander and buy the kit with a circular saw and a drill plus a charger and battery that fits your sander."
Me: "But I don't need a circular saw and drill."
Him: "If you buy the whole kit it's 100 bucks. If you want the battery and charger alone it's 150 bucks. You'd be ahead buying the kit and throwing all the tools away."
Me: "That's insane."
Him: "Yep, but that's how they market the product so you'll buy more stuff."

Went to Lowe's and found one for only $35. Sounded cheap but what the heck. Brought it home and opened it up. No power pack and no charger.
So, I look more closely at the outside of the box, which is 90% Spanish. In small print "battery pack and charger sold separately".
So, I go back to Lowe's and tell the guy I need to buy a battery pack and charger.
Him: "Nope, you don't want to do that. You want to buy the cordless tool kit. It's cheaper than the battery and charger."
Me: "OK, so I can return the sander and buy the kit."
Him: "No, there is no sander in the kit. You need to keep your sander and buy the kit with a circular saw and a drill plus a charger and battery that fits your sander."
Me: "But I don't need a circular saw and drill."
Him: "If you buy the whole kit it's 100 bucks. If you want the battery and charger alone it's 150 bucks. You'd be ahead buying the kit and throwing all the tools away."
Me: "That's insane."
Him: "Yep, but that's how they market the product so you'll buy more stuff."

Posted on 3/12/10 at 1:14 pm to Zach
Razor blade strategy at work.
give the tools away so people will buy batteries, blades, bits, accessories where the real margins are.
give the tools away so people will buy batteries, blades, bits, accessories where the real margins are.
This post was edited on 3/12/10 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 3/12/10 at 2:48 pm to Putty
10 Million drill bits sold last year when no one actually needed a drill bit. All needed was a hole
Posted on 3/12/10 at 3:25 pm to Zach
quote:
Can't use my sander because it's got a cord. Need a cordless sander.
extension cord?
Posted on 3/12/10 at 4:48 pm to HeadyMurphey
quote:
Can't use my sander because it's got a cord. Need a cordless sander.
quote:
extension cord?
My iron fence is 250 feet long.
Posted on 3/12/10 at 4:58 pm to Zach
Easy. Someone in marketing has a husband whose bonus is tied to the number of circular saws sold.
Posted on 3/12/10 at 5:31 pm to Zach
quote:
My iron fence is 250 feet long.
My driveway is 300 feet long and I've run extension cords to the top. Battery powered tools become useless way too soon.
Posted on 3/12/10 at 5:46 pm to Tigris
quote:
My driveway is 300 feet long and I've run extension cords to the top. Battery powered tools become useless way too soon.
Lemme splain the dimensions, Lucy. My iron fence is 250 up the left side, 150 across the street side and 250 down the right side. If you like a 300 foot extension cord, knock yourself out. Those of us who are sane don't care for it.
Posted on 3/12/10 at 6:18 pm to Zach
If a battery powered Dremel would work I would get that. High speed bit, especially if you are just talking knocking off bits and pieces of rust.
Posted on 3/12/10 at 7:20 pm to Tigris
Cordless will frustrated you more than you know. It will not accomplish the job you want to do unless you have one of the commercial brand cordless sanders.
Get a couple of 100 or 150 ft cords and invest in a corded sander. You won't be disappointed.
Trust me, I used to do what you want to do for a living.
Get a couple of 100 or 150 ft cords and invest in a corded sander. You won't be disappointed.
Trust me, I used to do what you want to do for a living.
Posted on 3/13/10 at 7:34 am to lsufanintexas
IMHO you should rent a sand blaster and be done with it.
I doubt he "wants" to sand and paint a 500ft long fence
quote:
Trust me, I used to do what you want to do for a living.
I doubt he "wants" to sand and paint a 500ft long fence
Posted on 3/13/10 at 8:18 am to Zach
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battery pack and charger
Ridiculously expensive. I had two batteries, a reciprocating saw, and charger stolen a few months back. Now Im left with a drill with no batteries and no charger, unless I want to fork up over $100
Posted on 3/13/10 at 8:34 am to wizard of smart
Ebay my friends.
You can get all of that shite for dirt cheap on ebay.
You can get all of that shite for dirt cheap on ebay.
Posted on 3/13/10 at 8:41 am to TheHiddenFlask
I was in the process of ebaying that. Not exactly dirt cheap...
Dewalt 18v new battery and charger - ebay - $95-105
Same thing - Lowes - $120
eta: unless you buy used and who wants used batteries that the seller *swears* only used one or twice
Dewalt 18v new battery and charger - ebay - $95-105
Same thing - Lowes - $120
eta: unless you buy used and who wants used batteries that the seller *swears* only used one or twice

This post was edited on 3/13/10 at 8:43 am
Posted on 3/13/10 at 10:49 am to lsufanintexas
quote:
Get a couple of 100 or 150 ft cords and invest in a corded sander. You won't be disappointed.
I guess I'm doing a really bad job of describing my fence. Besides the dimensions I've got 60+ trees all over the yard. So, I would either need 700 feet of cord or continuously walk back to the socket and trudge another path through the trees to the next place to sand.
Although these battery packs don't last long I've got 2 of them in the kit. So, I'm going to charge one while using the other and painting. By the time I finish painting a sanded section the back up battery is charged.
Posted on 3/13/10 at 4:09 pm to Zach
ya might try water blasting with a high pressure (4000psi) washer
Posted on 3/13/10 at 4:22 pm to Elvis Parsley
That would be great for a flat surface but this fence is 90 percent air between the posts and uprights. I'd be blasting air.
Posted on 3/14/10 at 11:54 am to Zach
Spend $800 buy a generator, or rent one. Buy a small one and you can use it for tailgaiting, hurricanes, etc.
Posted on 3/14/10 at 2:43 pm to tiger94gop
Yall really like cords, huh.
Posted on 3/14/10 at 4:58 pm to Zach
quote:FYI, it's very likely those weren't the same battery.
"If you buy the whole kit it's 100 bucks. If you want the battery and charger alone it's 150 bucks. You'd be ahead buying the kit and throwing all the tools away."
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