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Posted on 2/12/10 at 9:55 am to tigerbaitfan13
les will not "sink" the tigers. look for better blocking, better qb play and a smoother, less confusing offense as, i believe, les is putting crowton on a short leash. as far as coach stud goes, i beleive if he doesn't improve, he may be fired before the year is out (hopeful of, anyway). we will have a young, but talented team that will play better and be more exciting but not yet ready to win the sec or the sec west. i say 9-3 but a stronger 9-3 than last year and one that will generate a push into 2011. 
Posted on 2/12/10 at 9:59 am to Choctaw
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So basically you're saying that the coaching staff didnt even need to show up those first 3 years and LSU would have still won a NC?
No, I'm saying any number of CFB coaching staffs could have shown up and LSU would have still won an NC.
Posted on 2/12/10 at 10:01 am to geaux99
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No, I'm saying any number of CFB coaching staffs could have shown up and LSU would have still won an NC.
ok...and any number of coaching staffs could have gone to bama, florida, texas, or USC and won NC's too. what's your point?
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Posted on 2/12/10 at 10:09 am to Choctaw
My guess is no more than two, and hopefully only one. I just hope the one isnt to Alabama.
Posted on 2/12/10 at 10:12 am to Choctaw
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ok...and any number of coaching staffs could have gone to bama, florida, texas, or USC and won NC's too. what's your point?
This year? Sure (except for maybe USC...but I get your point). And if the right (or in this case, wrong) caoching staff takes over at any of those schools, any of the aforementioned could be run into the ground.
BTW, I noticed you didn't include Miami in the above list.
I guess my point is that if Less were to take over at Texas, Bama, or Florida, the quality of the on-field product would drop. Let me guess, you're going to ask me how I know this, or compare me to a modern day, flawed, would-be-Nostradamus. Look...you can't make this empirical because Less isn't the coach at Bama or Texas, but you can look at what Less has done since he arrived at LSU and draw the above conclusion. Yeah I know...51 wins and a national championship. [yawn] You Apologists will never learn.
This post was edited on 2/12/10 at 10:19 am
Posted on 2/12/10 at 10:15 am to tigerbaitfan13
I think 6. I am not a "negatiger", some years I only think 1. Just my opinion with the seniors coming back and the inexperience at some positions. I know some like to freak out about differing opinions but I think we are a year away from being very good again.
Posted on 2/12/10 at 10:19 am to geaux99
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This year? Sure (except for maybe USC...but I get your point).
I wasn't necessarily talking about this year. I was just mentioning the latest schools to win NC's.
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BTW, I noticed you didn't include Miami in the above list.
Let me guess....you're trying to compare Miles to Coker now right? Well Miles hasn't lost complete control of his team.
BTW...i didnt mention Nebraska either.
Posted on 2/12/10 at 10:20 am to JJ27
I believe Alabama will be good but beatable this next season. They are losing 9 starters on defense, so they will be reloading. From what I hear, they have defensive talent to build upon, but unproven. They have basically the same offense coming back, but they can be stopped. Everyone will be shooting at them. It will come down to mental preparation by Saban and coaches.
Arkansas is dark horse to watch out for in the west. If they get some kind of defense (which they were short on last year), the west will be wild again. I see a good year for LSU. We will be in the hunt for the west and SEC titles. We may lose 1 game along the way.
Arkansas is dark horse to watch out for in the west. If they get some kind of defense (which they were short on last year), the west will be wild again. I see a good year for LSU. We will be in the hunt for the west and SEC titles. We may lose 1 game along the way.
Posted on 2/12/10 at 10:22 am to geaux99
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but you can look at what Less has done since he arrived at LSU and draw the above conclusion. Yeah I know...51 wins and a national championship. [yawn] You Apologists will never learn.
Yea...lets just dismiss the highest win % in LSU history, 2 SEC West titles, an SEC championship, and a NC.
Jesus Christ Theres one common denominator the last 2 years....rookie QBs. Ask USC and OU how tough it is to win with rookie QBs....and they don't play in the SEC. Even UF, with the almighty Tebow, lost 4 games his first year as a starter.
This post was edited on 2/12/10 at 10:24 am
Posted on 2/12/10 at 10:36 am to Choctaw
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Yea...lets just dismiss the highest win % in LSU history, 2 SEC West titles, an SEC championship, and a NC.
Well, it gets old when one considers the context of how those statistics were reached, as well as the most recent SEC record (of which a better indication of how good a coach Les Miles really is can be found, 5+ years after he took over). I mean we're .500 against the competition we should be most concerned with. Not with rent-a-wins factored into the equation. We're a mediocre SEC team! Once again...Les took over for arguably the best CFB coach in the current game. That means he inherited all of the talent, all of that team leadershipo developed under Saban. Back to the argument at hand. Put Dinardo into those same shoes.
Posted on 2/12/10 at 10:49 am to JJ27
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How you can think LSU beats Bama when Bama returns everyone while fearing UNC is baffling.
I agree with your point--UNC is not all that scary. But your definition of "everyone" is not all that accurate.
Posted on 2/12/10 at 10:53 am to Hot Carl
Don't get me wrong, I hope the tigers when it all this year, but after Les' more than "questionnable" coaching decisions in games, I think the tigers might be in trouble. We have the athletes, just need smarter coaching.
Posted on 2/12/10 at 11:08 am to geaux99
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Well, it gets old when one considers the context of how those statistics were reached, as well as the most recent SEC record (of which a better indication of how good a coach Les Miles really is can be found, 5+ years after he took over). I mean we're .500 against the competition we should be most concerned with. Not with rent-a-wins factored into the equation. We're a mediocre SEC team!
Miles lovers will absolutely, positively NOT look at this. they're too busy looking at his record without considering the current state of LSU football....no organization, no player development, no swagger, and TERRIBLE COACHING! LSU has essentially become what Southern Mississippi was about 10 years ago....beat the easy teams and play the good teams really tough, but lose. what is that???? MEDIOCRITY!!!!!!
P.S. LSU loses at least 5 games in 2010.
This post was edited on 2/12/10 at 11:09 am
Posted on 2/12/10 at 11:09 am to geaux99
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Well, it gets old when one considers the context of how those statistics were reached
What context? He won the games....thats all that matters.
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as well as the most recent SEC record (of which a better indication of how good a coach Les Miles really is can be found, 5+ years after he took over)
Why is the last two years a better indication and not his entire tenure? Was this year a better indication of Carrols coaching skills? Was this year a better indication of Stoops coaching skills? Was '07 a better indication of Meyers coaching skills? You see where im going with this?
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That means he inherited all of the talent, all of that team leadershipo developed under Saban.
That team had 3 years of development under Miles.
Posted on 2/12/10 at 11:41 am to tigerbaitfan13
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I love my tigers to death, but how bad will Les sink the tigers this year? Are we talking sinking a small boat in a 5 foot pond kind of year, or the sinking of the Titanic kind of year?
If you actually DID love your Tigers you wouldn't be posting juvenile shite like this. Hint, junior: it's been said, it's been done, it's old, it's fu cing boring, and it is honestly stupid.
Posted on 2/12/10 at 11:43 am to Choctaw
I'll play along. Miles, "not so genius" Crowton, and "prevent to win" Chavis do just enough to squeak by again. Beat the rent-a-wins soundly, struggle but win against the bottom tier sec teams, have one decent win against a top program, and of course lose 3 or 4 sec games and the miles-fil-a bowl. Also throw in a upset lose somewhere in there as well. 8-5 final record. 
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