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Question for the wise - Idiots need not apply
Posted on 1/2/10 at 10:34 pm
Posted on 1/2/10 at 10:34 pm
I, like everyone. have witnessed our coachs do some really stupid things this year. I also listen to the babble that Les has to say at his painful press conferences as well as his weekly show. I, like many, often wonder about his intelligence level; even though he has a Masters from Mich. So here is what I have a hard time understanding.
Why does BM come here? I mean he left Florida to come work for Les. Ok, maybe he knew Urban was leaving; but if Miles is the idiot many of us believe why come here? BM is well respected around the coaching profession for his coaching ability as well as his recruiting. Several schools tried to get him with more money and he stayed at Florida. Maybe he was promised the OC job after Crowton is canned? But still why come work for an idiot like Miles?
Also, why did Wilson come here? Everyone can't stop saying what a great guy Wilson is and how bright he is as a coach and recruiter; but yet he comes to LSU even though he had a great job at Tn. Now I know Wilson is from New Orleans and yada yada yada, but is coming home worth working for an idiot who is going to get run out of town in a year?
I feel like something is missing. Either Miles is not as stupid as he appears, and I will not argue that he does appear pretty damn stupid, or these so called great coaches are not as smart as we think because they are coming to work for an idiot.
I don't know about you, but if I was offered a job to work for someone who I knew was an complete idiot; I think I would pass. Maybe I am wrong, but this shite really has me thinking what the F_ck! I mean coaches talk, you can't tell me BM, FW, Chavis, Cooper, and Brick whom all coached in the SEC didn't know who Les was before they signed up. They all knew what they were getting into and they still came!
Intelligent opinions welcome.
Why does BM come here? I mean he left Florida to come work for Les. Ok, maybe he knew Urban was leaving; but if Miles is the idiot many of us believe why come here? BM is well respected around the coaching profession for his coaching ability as well as his recruiting. Several schools tried to get him with more money and he stayed at Florida. Maybe he was promised the OC job after Crowton is canned? But still why come work for an idiot like Miles?
Also, why did Wilson come here? Everyone can't stop saying what a great guy Wilson is and how bright he is as a coach and recruiter; but yet he comes to LSU even though he had a great job at Tn. Now I know Wilson is from New Orleans and yada yada yada, but is coming home worth working for an idiot who is going to get run out of town in a year?
I feel like something is missing. Either Miles is not as stupid as he appears, and I will not argue that he does appear pretty damn stupid, or these so called great coaches are not as smart as we think because they are coming to work for an idiot.
I don't know about you, but if I was offered a job to work for someone who I knew was an complete idiot; I think I would pass. Maybe I am wrong, but this shite really has me thinking what the F_ck! I mean coaches talk, you can't tell me BM, FW, Chavis, Cooper, and Brick whom all coached in the SEC didn't know who Les was before they signed up. They all knew what they were getting into and they still came!
Intelligent opinions welcome.
Posted on 1/2/10 at 10:37 pm to SS4LSU
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Why does BM come here? I
I honestly have no idea. Really makes you wonder if there wasn't some sort of falling out with he and Urban.
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Also, why did Wilson come here?
Tennessee has their own issues. If Miles gets run in the next year or so Wilson probably has the best chance of getting retained.
Posted on 1/2/10 at 10:39 pm to SS4LSU
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I, like everyone.
I like ice cream.
Posted on 1/2/10 at 10:40 pm to SS4LSU
I can't give you an answer, but I can tell you that I've been asking myself these very same questions while trying to figure coach Miles out.
Posted on 1/2/10 at 10:40 pm to SS4LSU
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Why does BM come here? I mean he left Florida to come work for Les
Who is BM?
This post was edited on 1/2/10 at 10:42 pm
Posted on 1/2/10 at 10:43 pm to SS4LSU
BM?
Anyhow, so you base your opinion on coaches accepting jobs at LSU to work under Miles and assume that no one would willingly work for an idiot? Is that the premise?
Think about jobs you've had, think about people you've hired, think about friends/family and their circumstances. People have a few motivating factors when taking a position and weight of each factor is determined individually. Number one is money. Without pay, it isn't a job, it's volunteer work. Next comes potential for advancement most likely - is this job a set up, more profile, can it advance my career for the future. The next criteria usually involves family and stability issues. Will my wife and kids be happy, will I have job security?
So to answer you question, Les Miles has taken care of all of his hires even if he needed them to leave, that's stability. I do not know about BG family, but Wilson wanted to coach at LSU when Saban was coaching. As far as advancement and money, LSU pays as well a anyone and is a high profile job.
Why come work for an idiot? Because even though he's an idiot, you will get paid, advance your career and be taken care of. Simple to me.
Anyhow, so you base your opinion on coaches accepting jobs at LSU to work under Miles and assume that no one would willingly work for an idiot? Is that the premise?
Think about jobs you've had, think about people you've hired, think about friends/family and their circumstances. People have a few motivating factors when taking a position and weight of each factor is determined individually. Number one is money. Without pay, it isn't a job, it's volunteer work. Next comes potential for advancement most likely - is this job a set up, more profile, can it advance my career for the future. The next criteria usually involves family and stability issues. Will my wife and kids be happy, will I have job security?
So to answer you question, Les Miles has taken care of all of his hires even if he needed them to leave, that's stability. I do not know about BG family, but Wilson wanted to coach at LSU when Saban was coaching. As far as advancement and money, LSU pays as well a anyone and is a high profile job.
Why come work for an idiot? Because even though he's an idiot, you will get paid, advance your career and be taken care of. Simple to me.
Posted on 1/2/10 at 10:46 pm to SS4LSU
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Why does BM come here? I mean he left Florida to come work for Les. Ok, maybe he knew Urban was leaving; but if Miles is the idiot many of us believe why come here? BM is well respected around the coaching profession for his coaching ability as well as his recruiting. Several schools tried to get him with more money and he stayed at Florida. Maybe he was promised the OC job after Crowton is canned? But still why come work for an idiot like Miles?
I'm sure you meant BG? As in Billy Gonzalez correct? It's an honest mistake.
Posted on 1/2/10 at 10:47 pm to moneyg
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Who is BM?
GC's offense has caused many of us some BM's.
Posted on 1/2/10 at 10:49 pm to lsusportsman2
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I'm sure you meant BG? As in Billy Gonzalez correct? It's an honest mistake.
Not really a big deal, but it's kind of ironic given that he called Miles stupid twice, discussed his babbling, wondered about his intelligence level, referred to Miles as a idiot, and demanded that idiots not apply to his post.
Posted on 1/2/10 at 10:49 pm to lsusportsman2
Yeah I totally get why BM would move her. BG I don't know, but Bowel movement... I get it.
Posted on 1/2/10 at 10:52 pm to drizztiger
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advance your career
How do you advance your career working for an idiot?
Maybe the coaching profession is different, but I can't understand why someone would go to a school knowing that the head man is on his last leg and may not have a job in 11 months. So your statement about job security and Miles taking care of his coaches is not gonna happen if he is fired.
Also, would you want a high profile job where the whole coaching staff is gonna be canned in a year? That would make you look like a high profile idiot.
Maybe it is ego, maybe they think they can bail the water out faster than it is leaking in.
Posted on 1/2/10 at 10:54 pm to moneyg
1. Well as long as your under urban meyer he will get all the credit for offense so I think thats why billy came because if he shines at LSU he will get more recognition as a coach.
2.I think Wilson wanted to come back home. I also think that he might have wanted to seperate himself from Kiffin there at Tenn. Here is another thought.
3.One more thought.When Dooley decides to leave tech for something better couldn't you see Wilson going there?
2.I think Wilson wanted to come back home. I also think that he might have wanted to seperate himself from Kiffin there at Tenn. Here is another thought.
3.One more thought.When Dooley decides to leave tech for something better couldn't you see Wilson going there?
Posted on 1/2/10 at 10:55 pm to SS4LSU
I rely on my Bro in laws opinion who is a high school head coach.
He seems to think that Assistants know Les is a stand up guy. You look at what he did for Malveto last year. He also believes that Assistants know $abun's assistants hate working for the guy but it helps build their resume. Its all selfish motives that revolve around money. That is what College Football has become all about the money. It is what it is.
He seems to think that Assistants know Les is a stand up guy. You look at what he did for Malveto last year. He also believes that Assistants know $abun's assistants hate working for the guy but it helps build their resume. Its all selfish motives that revolve around money. That is what College Football has become all about the money. It is what it is.
Posted on 1/2/10 at 10:55 pm to SS4LSU
OMFG. I knew I shouldn't have taken your thread seriously. It's "coaches" not "coachs" and there is no BM, there is a BG though.
My fault for giving you a true response when you had your agenda already laid out.
I explained why people take jobs. I have both held jobs and employed others. Now GFY.
My fault for giving you a true response when you had your agenda already laid out.
I explained why people take jobs. I have both held jobs and employed others. Now GFY.
Posted on 1/2/10 at 10:56 pm to SS4LSU
I've been wondering the same thing! All I can offer is my opinion, which is that BG is HC in waiting.
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