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Florida Fans and LSU fans unite...

Posted on 9/14/09 at 9:49 pm
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 9/14/09 at 9:49 pm
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To whom it may concern:


Although I love the rivalry that has grown between LSU and Florida this decade as both schools have dominated this conference over the course of the decade and the game itself has at times “propelled” both schools to national title appearances, the time has come for change to the SEC's philosophy and policy on permanent cross-division opponents. With the emergence of Ole Miss and Alabama from the doormat of the conference, the current method of scheduling is no longer feasible and is simply put, unfair.

Unfortunately, the other 10 schools are completely content with the SEC's system, and I can see why. For Alabama-Tennessee and Georgia-Auburn, it is a matter of preserving tradition, which I respect. As for the other six schools opposed to change, it’s simply a matter of them being the beneficiaries of a softer conference schedule. Take one gander at Alabama and Ole Miss' 2009 SEC schedules and it's easy to see that not getting to the SECCG would be inexcusable for both schools (unfortunately, one or both will not make it). (See Alabama 2009 Schedule and Ole Miss 2009 Schedule)

As an LSU fan, I love playing Florida every year and it has certainly become one of the Top3 "marquee" games in college football each year and the game is certainly great for the SEC as it has a huge national appeal, but it is unfortunate that Florida and LSU are the two schools that get the raw end of the deal relative to the conference's scheduling across divisions.

Let me offer two solutions that I’m sure you guys have discussed, but have yet to implement due to resistance from the member institutions. The time has come for change, and while we as fans are willing to compromise a little in the interest of preserving tradition, nonetheless change must be implemented very soon or the competitive balance and fairness of the league will eventually suffer.

Solution #1
There should be no cross-division permanent opponent, simple as that. You should play three teams from the other division one year, and the remaining three teams from the other division the following year. Then, you do it all over again with the venue changed home/away. Every team gets a chance to play every other team in the other division every other year. No team ever goes over two years without playing each and every SEC team. No SEC player ever plays four years at a school and does not make a trip to Death Valley or Bryant Denny or The Swamp or Between the Hedges. Every team plays every other SEC team every other year.

For example, if LSU plays Florida at home this year, Georgia on the road this year, and Vanderbilt at home this year, then NEXT YEAR LSU will play South Carolina, Tennessee, and Kentucky. The FOLLOWING YEAR LSU will play at Florida, home against Georgia, and at Vanderbilt. The LAST SEASON of the rotation, LSU plays USC, Tenn, and Kentucky again with the venue flipped.


Solution #2

If Alabama-Tennessee and Georgia-Auburn really want to keep those games locked to preserve tradition, then keep those two games locked, but let the rest of the SEC rotate. Give those four schools the option to "opt out" if that game being played every year as opposed to the game being played every other year is so important to those schools. If those two particular games are the big holdupt to change, then we as fans will compromise and concede, allowing them to keep those games and let the rest of us play on a level playing field and with more equitable scheduling practices.


I know this topic comes up annually at the SEC meetings, but the time has come to implement change. Most schools have no problem with it, but I felt an email was necessary from me, an LSU fan, to let my displeasure in the current system known. I know that I am not alone in my beliefs on this topic.


Thanks for your time in considering this topic, and also thank you for all you do for the conference!

Geaux Tigers!




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LINKSTILL GOING AT IT

The six permanent cross-divisional matchups in SEC football:

Alabama vs. Tennessee

The Crimson Tide lead the series 46-38-7, having won the past two games by a combined 70-26. The Volunteers were dominant from 1995 to ’2004, losing once in 10 meetings.

Arkansas vs. South Carolina


The SEC’s newest teams had never met before joining the league in 1992. In the 17 meetings since, the Razorbacks hold a 10-7 advantage.

Auburn vs. Georgia


Auburn’s Tigers lead the Deep South’s oldest rivalry 53-51-8, but the Bulldogs are riding their first three-game series win streak since Herschel Walker was tailback.

LSU vs. Florida

Florida holds a 29-23-3 series lead and won every meeting but one from 1988 to 2001. The teams have combined to win the past three BCS national titles.

Ole Miss vs. Vanderbilt

Ole Miss leads the series 46-35-2, but the Commodores have won three of the last four meetings. They first played in 1894 and have met annually since 1970.

Mississippi State vs. Kentucky

Kentucky leads the series 21-15, with the teams splitting the past 10 matchups. These two programs were not annual foes until 1990.
This post was edited on 9/15/09 at 1:06 pm
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34324 posts
Posted on 9/14/09 at 9:50 pm to
What are all the permanent match ups?

LSU-Florida
Alabama-Tennessee
Auburn-Georgia

I think Arkansas has Kentucky. Who do Ole Miss and Miss St. have?
Posted by LSU Tigerhead
Metairie
Member since Nov 2007
5160 posts
Posted on 9/14/09 at 9:51 pm to
I agree.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
81951 posts
Posted on 9/14/09 at 9:52 pm to
I agree, we need to rotate all of the east games, 3 1 year, and the other 3 the next
Posted by Stevo
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
12340 posts
Posted on 9/14/09 at 9:52 pm to
Ole Miss has Vandy, I think.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
77106 posts
Posted on 9/14/09 at 9:52 pm to
Ole Miss has Vandy and Miss. State has the Gamecocks.
Posted by DocBugbear
Arlington, Texas
Member since Mar 2008
8139 posts
Posted on 9/14/09 at 9:53 pm to
That leaves Vandy and SC...
Posted by jazzisbaseball
Meraux, Louisiana
Member since Jul 2009
142 posts
Posted on 9/14/09 at 9:53 pm to
+16 although i like having the chance to kill those fricking douche bags every year
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34324 posts
Posted on 9/14/09 at 9:55 pm to
Thanks...very informative edit.
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
100,000 posts
Member since Jan 2007
55144 posts
Posted on 9/14/09 at 9:56 pm to
fricking A...I didn't know Ole Miss had Vandy as their permanent East team. They should never open their fricking mouths again if they don't win the West every year.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28306 posts
Posted on 9/14/09 at 9:58 pm to
Well, until now it never has really mattered as Ole Miss sucked anyway. But now that they're back to being competitive, it truly is an unfair advantage for them.

At least for Bama, Tennessee is usually a top-teir SEC program, until Kiffin took over.
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21954 posts
Posted on 9/14/09 at 9:58 pm to
This method of scheduling is extremely retarded, and it's done to appease one game...Alabama vs Tennessee. Auburn and Georgia would be 2nd in line, but I don't think those two schools would make as big a deal about it as Bama and UT if the SEC went to a rotating schedule.

This needs to be rectified in the name of competitive balance.
Posted by zbrous4
Gonzales via DeRidder
Member since Aug 2009
448 posts
Posted on 9/14/09 at 10:03 pm to
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Why don't we just do it like the Big12?


Not as much of an issue in the Big 12 though. All the big teams are in the same division. I do agree that it should rotate, but on the other hand, it's nice to have another big seasonal rivalry. Maybe rotate every season with 2 East teams instead of 1.
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34400 posts
Posted on 9/14/09 at 10:04 pm to
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I agree, we need to rotate all of the east games, 3 1 year, and the other 3 the next
Drop Vandy and Miss St and play a round-robin.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28306 posts
Posted on 9/14/09 at 10:05 pm to
There should be no cross-division permanent opponent, simple as that.

You should play three teams from the other division one year, and the other three teams from the other division the next year.

Then, you do it all over again with the venue changed home/away.

Every team gets a chance to play every other team in the conference in each two year span. No team ever goes over two years without playing each and every SEC team. No SEC player ever plays four years at a school and does not make a trip to Death Valley.
This post was edited on 9/14/09 at 10:07 pm
Posted by steadytiger
Member since Jan 2007
2756 posts
Posted on 9/14/09 at 10:07 pm to
read it moron
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28306 posts
Posted on 9/14/09 at 10:08 pm to
In his defense, I didn't have that article posted or quoted initially.
Posted by bulletprooftiger
Member since Aug 2006
2405 posts
Posted on 9/14/09 at 10:10 pm to
I like rivalry that has developed from playing florida every year. Its a mark of pride. It is currently the most important rivalry in college football, ahead of both Texas-OU and Michigan-Ohio State. Also the Tiger Stadium atmosphere for the Florida game is off-the-charts. Never get rid of that game.

Posted by coloradoBengal
Member since Sep 2007
32608 posts
Posted on 9/14/09 at 10:10 pm to
NVM
This post was edited on 9/14/09 at 10:11 pm
Posted by ZoTiger6
Carriere, MS
Member since Nov 2007
1821 posts
Posted on 9/14/09 at 10:10 pm to
Unfortunitly, don't see the powers that be changing this anytime soon.
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