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Did Saudi Crown Prince MBS change Trump’s mind?

Posted on 4/12/26 at 11:58 am
Posted by Geekboy
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Posted by SirWinston
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This post was edited on 4/12/26 at 12:01 pm
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 4/12/26 at 12:01 pm to
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NEW: An urgent phone call from Saudi Crown Prince MBS changed Trump’s decision at the last minute: President Trump had intended to declare a complete ceasefire and end the fighting against Iran in exchange for the immediate opening of the Strait of Hormuz. However, a tense phone call with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman dramatically changed the plan. According to White House sources, bin Salman begged Trump not to stop the war: “This is a historic opportunity – we must finish the job and weaken the Iranian regime once and for all.”

In exchange for continuing the fighting, Saudi Arabia offered an unprecedented package of economic and strategic incentives. Key points in the offer:

• $100 billion transferred directly to finance American war costs
• Full and immediate normalization with Israel after the fall of the regime
• Direct oil pipeline from Saudi Arabia to the port of Ashdod, turning Israel into a major energy hub
• Investment of approximately $1 trillion in the U.S. economy + purchase of $500 billion in American weapons
• Establishment of a new regional defense alliance, including Israel, Saudi Arabia, and other moderate countries under an American umbrella
• Joint naval force to control the Strait of Hormuz and Bab el-Mandeb • Funding of strategic U.S. bases in Israel • Joint reconstruction fund for a post-regime “secular and moderate” Iran

In the end, Trump announced a temporary ceasefire, not an end to the war as was expected.

Senior diplomatic sources describe the move as “a historic turning point” marking the beginning of a new regional order.


This post was edited on 4/12/26 at 12:04 pm
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 4/12/26 at 12:03 pm to
This whole thing is turning into a CF.

Meanwhile, everyone else is getting bombed. Finish the job or not.
Posted by WestSideTiger
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Posted on 4/12/26 at 12:03 pm to
quote:

NEW: An urgent phone call from Saudi Crown Prince MBS changed Trump’s decision at the last minute:

President Trump had intended to declare a complete ceasefire and end the fighting against Iran in exchange for the immediate opening of the Strait of Hormuz.

However, a tense phone call with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman dramatically changed the plan.

According to White House sources, bin Salman begged Trump not to stop the war: “This is a historic opportunity – we must finish the job and weaken the Iranian regime once and for all.”

In exchange for continuing the fighting, Saudi Arabia offered an unprecedented package of economic and strategic incentives.

Key points in the offer:
• $100 billion transferred directly to finance American war costs
• Full and immediate normalization with Israel after the fall of the regime
• Direct oil pipeline from Saudi Arabia to the port of Ashdod, turning Israel into a major energy hub
• Investment of approximately $1 trillion in the U.S. economy + purchase of $500 billion in American weapons
• Establishment of a new regional defense alliance, including Israel, Saudi Arabia, and other moderate countries under an American umbrella
• Joint naval force to control the Strait of Hormuz and Bab el-Mandeb
• Funding of strategic U.S. bases in Israel
• Joint reconstruction fund for a post-regime “secular and moderate” Iran

In the end, Trump announced a temporary ceasefire, not an end to the war as was expected.

Senior diplomatic sources describe the move as “a historic turning point” marking the beginning of a new regional order.
Posted by KingOrange
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Posted on 4/12/26 at 12:03 pm to
MBS and Orange are boys. This could be true.
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 4/12/26 at 12:04 pm to
If true, Trump/USA made out like a bandit.
Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 4/12/26 at 12:04 pm to
Wait. I'm confused. Do the JOOs control Trump, or is it the Saudis?

Or are the Saudis controlled by the JOOs too? Or do the Saudis control Trump through the JOOs?

Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 4/12/26 at 12:04 pm to
MBS is Mossad.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 4/12/26 at 12:05 pm to
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If true, Trump/USA made out like a bandit.

That bit is carrying a lot of weight.
Posted by cadillacattack
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Posted on 4/12/26 at 12:06 pm to

MBS and OMB …. petroleum bros
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 4/12/26 at 12:06 pm to
Posted by KingOrange
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Posted on 4/12/26 at 12:06 pm to
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MBS is Mossad.



Nothing would surprise me anymore.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 4/12/26 at 12:06 pm to
If that true it would be amazing.
Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 4/12/26 at 12:07 pm to
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MBS is Mossad.


The Truth is out there.
Posted by ChatGPT of LA
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Posted on 4/12/26 at 12:12 pm to
IF, and I say a big IF, that deal was struck, that would be an absolute home run, to come out of this fight with those agreements. And it would further suppress Iran hostility
Posted by TigerAxeOK
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Posted on 4/12/26 at 12:15 pm to
quote:

Key points in the offer:
• $100 billion transferred directly to finance American war costs
• Full and immediate normalization with Israel after the fall of the regime
• Direct oil pipeline from Saudi Arabia to the port of Ashdod, turning Israel into a major energy hub
• Investment of approximately $1 trillion in the U.S. economy + purchase of $500 billion in American weapons
• Establishment of a new regional defense alliance, including Israel, Saudi Arabia, and other moderate countries under an American umbrella
• Joint naval force to control the Strait of Hormuz and Bab el-Mandeb
• Funding of strategic U.S. bases in Israel
• Joint reconstruction fund for a post-regime “secular and moderate” Iran

This is all pretty generous.

Can we trust SA to follow through?
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 4/12/26 at 12:20 pm to
quote:

This is a historic opportunity – we must finish the job and weaken the Iranian regime once and for all.”


No shite. If finishing off the Iranian regime is not the ultimate goal, then there was no point in any of this. It would be incredibly stupid to run fuel prices up a couple dollars a gallon in exchange for concessions at the negotiating table that aren’t worth the paper they’re written on.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 4/12/26 at 12:23 pm to
quote:

IF, and I say a big IF, that deal was struck, that would be an absolute home run, to come out of this fight with those agreements. And it would further suppress Iran hostility

The one big issue being that it directly hinges on real regime change and ties us to that goal. There would be no playing fast and loose with stating regime change has happened when it clearly hasn't.

The implications of that are huge.
This post was edited on 4/12/26 at 12:25 pm
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 4/12/26 at 12:26 pm to
Not good enough. Saudi should be forced to fund $50,000 into every American child’s trump trust account.

We have the richest nation on earth in a vice grip.

Time to put the squeeze on and get our protection money from these gulf states.
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