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Looking At the Upvote/Downvote Dynamic Of Posts Regarding Trump's Speech.....

Posted on 4/2/26 at 9:51 am
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
49131 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 9:51 am
....it's obvious to me that, despite what I think and how I see it, a significant percentage of people are clearly uneasy and unsure regarding the Trump Administration's actions in Iran. It's obvious, and like I said it's obvious by simply looking at the U/D numbers.

What does that mean? It means that, in this year where we will hold midterm elections, it is imperative that President Trump and his people end up having a successful resolution to the Iran situation. If it isn't conclusive, the Democrats are going to have a good chance of regaining Congress. That's despite the fact that Democrats are very unpopular right now, but the Democrat base will turn out on election day. They will be fueled by their hatred of Trump. In addition, most of us know that there will be the usual cheating in blue states controlled by Democrats.

This action in Iran needs to be successful for its own sake, but there's also a lot more at stake domestically speaking. I hate to say it, but I see much potential trouble at the polls in November if too many people are not pleased with how things turn out in Iran.

I still think things will turn out well, but I'm just being honest about what could happen. And, this country is screwed if the Dems regain Congress (Not that the Repukes have done well).
Posted by YumYum Sauce
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
9529 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 9:54 am to
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Looking At the Upvote/Downvote Dynamic


what a gay person thing to do
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
473689 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 9:56 am to
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what a gay person thing to do

Exactly
Posted by Iron Lion
Romulus
Member since Nov 2014
13921 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 10:02 am to
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it's obvious by simply looking at the U/D numbers.
Do you know how many of those upvotes/downvote were from alters? Do you know if they were directed at the poster and not necessarily the post itself? Do you know that upvotes/downvotes mean absolutely nothing?
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
6873 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 10:06 am to
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This action in Iran needs to be successful for its own sake, but there's also a lot more at stake domestically speaking. I hate to say it, but I see much potential trouble at the polls in November if too many people are not pleased with how things turn out in Iran.



If this war is going to succeed in the mission it claims it started for, the idea of it concluding prior to midterms is pure fantasyland. He might bail and thump his chest about blowing up the country, but the nature of what governs Iran will likely remain and be far more unstable and rabid than before. Either way, there's no way he comes out of this unscathed. His base was never a "republican" one. It was fueled by independents and undecideds. I'd say the majority of those are likely gone, not just from Trump but likely the MAGA movement as a whole. I will be truly shocked if the GOP holds any part of congress post-midterms.
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
5442 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 10:06 am to
Did he really say we are going to “bomb them back to the Stone Age where they belong “ or was that AI?
This post was edited on 4/2/26 at 10:07 am
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
49131 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 10:10 am to
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Do you know how many of those upvotes/downvote were from alters? Do you know if they were directed at the poster and not necessarily the post itself? Do you know that upvotes/downvotes mean absolutely nothing?


I don't give a flip about U/D, but I'm simply being honest. In this case, it shows me that a decent number of people are feeling uneasy about what's going on in Iran.

For more than one reason, Trump needs a clear victory in Iran when all is said and done. And if the perception is that he does not end up achieving that victory, I guarantee you that the midterms could end up looking bad for those of us who know we can't afford to have the Dems regain control of Congress.

But, so much for trying to have an honest and intelligent discussion on this board with the trolls and punks we have here. Hey, I tried.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49347 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 10:15 am to
/\ /\ well stated
quote:

Not that the Repukes have done well).


Remember the CB58 golden rule = always chose the least evil
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
165479 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 10:18 am to
So there is no plan to trust? Go in the boarEd thread and call others who dont see what you see dummies...

Yeah thats good adult reasoning and discussion

How gay to judge DVs as a measure of anyrhing but the trolls and punks you just spoke about.

No way you are real. I like sir Winston better.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9264 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 10:18 am to
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Trump needs a clear victory in Iran when all is said and done


So what is your definition of a clear victory? B/c according to the Trump administration we have already achieved a clear victory and its time to wrap it up.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
56617 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 10:32 am to
You mean to tell me that the guy who ran on "no new wars" and then entered a war with Iran is unpopular at the moment?! Make it make sense!
This post was edited on 4/2/26 at 10:33 am
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
49131 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 10:59 am to
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cajunangelle


Hell hath no fury.....

Have you ever been able to get over a single grudge in your entire life?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
473689 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 11:05 am to
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Have you ever been able to get over a single grudge in your entire life?

2 days ago she went from scolding me to telling me how funny I went in about 5 minutes
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Flyover, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2019
9659 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 11:05 am to
If people have already forgotten how absolutely batshite upside down and hopeless things were under Democratic control, then I can’t help them.

Agree or disagree with him, I’m glad we have someone in the WH who is doing what he believed the right thing to do for this country’s longer term future.

The American public is so flighty and reactionary week to week, nothing would ever get done if politicians went by all the various polls.

Hell, now that I think of it, that’s probably a big contributor to why the GOP never does get anything done - they are always running afraid and never wanting to pizz off the Dems or the MSM too badly (or we might lose the next round of elections!!).

So DJT addressed something that previous Dem and GOP admins really wanted no business addressing head on and instead continually kicked the can down the road for some other generation to worry about later.

If people are so upset they actually desire and welcome a return to:

-Flung open borders,
-Pedal to the metal DEI,
-Trans glorification,
-The vast bulk of continued underwriting of NATO and the UN so they can continue to focus undermining the U.S., -Turning our military back into a social experiment
-No-holds barred resumption of canceling and silencing of unapproved thought and speech against Leftist dogma.

Then I can’t stop them and this country will deserve everything coming its way in future years. It won’t be good. That’s all I can pretty much guarantee.

Good luck to all of us thinking we will just vote our way out of it again someday.
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
9593 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 11:11 am to
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Exactly


Again, of course you say this sort of thing. You are likely to be the most downvoted poster in the history of internet downvoting.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
49131 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 11:12 am to
Great post. I was obviously hoping for some honest discussion on this and you provided it.

quote:

If people have already forgotten how absolutely batshite upside down and hopeless things were under Democratic control, then I can’t help them.


I can't help them, either. But, I'm just saying. If too many people end up thinking the end result in Iran was a liitle shaky, the "smooth brains" could end up giving Dems control of Congress.

Imo, that would be a disaster. That was the point of this thread, but it was immediately hijacked by a couple of trolls who didn’t even care to understand it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
473689 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 11:12 am to
I was opposed to up/down votes before they became a thing on here, when I was likely the most upvoted person in internet history at that point (this was pre-MAGA era before the board took a nose dive)
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
9593 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 11:14 am to
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when I was likely the most upvoted person in internet history at that point



Let me be the first to downvote this shite level post.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41161 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 11:14 am to
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I was opposed to up/down votes before they became a thing on here, when I was likely the most upvoted person in internet history at that point (this was pre-MAGA era before the board took a nose dive)


“I don’t care about votes”

- also SFP
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
473689 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 11:17 am to
As of right now, war with Iran is a blight with the potential to become a disaster.

Trump's rambling speech last night hurt the admin's position supporting the war.

They've shifted the goals messaging to the point where the admin is debasing themselves claiming "regime change" occurred. That propaganda signals desperation.

They haven't communicated goals or a plan, and keep scrambling and contradicting themselves to both promote the war with the MAGA NPCs and to soothe markets who don't want the chaos and negative externalities the war being sold to those NPCs is costing. It makes the admin look both like they had no plan and have no extraction plan, and may just leave chaos without achieving any clear long-term goals.

So yeah, people who aren't in that NPC population are weary.
This post was edited on 4/2/26 at 11:18 am
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