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ABS incorrectly changed 4 strike calls in Yankees game last night

Posted on 3/31/26 at 7:43 am
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 7:43 am
4 times last night the ump correctly called a low strike, and the Yankees challenged and ABS incorrectly ruled it a ball due to ABS being a two dimensional reading on the middle of the plate





I honestly can’t believe they put out a system that doesn’t follow the actual MLB rule on what a ball and strike is

For any sinker fastball or breaking ball it’s a massive deal to not have the system reading the pitch from the front of the plate as it should

More than half a foot of the plate is not measured with ABS. It’s ridiculous it’s being used
This post was edited on 3/31/26 at 7:49 am
Posted by Randall Savauge
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 7:53 am to
this topic is sponsored by the umpires union
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 7:56 am to
Found a picture of OP

Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 7:56 am to
Does anyone want to address the fact that ABS is intentionally setup incorrectly
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 7:59 am to
This is the first I’ve heard of this take. Could it be that your Yankee hate boner is blinding you?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:00 am to
This isn’t a take It’s a fact. MLB setup ABS as a 2 dimensional zone and it absolutely incorrectly calls some strikes balls because of it

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This post was edited on 3/31/26 at 8:02 am
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:05 am to
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ABS incorrectly ruled it a ball due to ABS being a two dimensional reading on the middle of the plate


How did you confirm that ABS only uses a two-dimensional reading? How do we know that's not just a simple screenshot for the people at home?

ETA: Thank you for finally posting something relevant that provides further details for your argument. It should have been done in your original post.

Can you provide some physics on how much a sinker ball sinks from the beginning of home plate to the middle?
This post was edited on 3/31/26 at 8:09 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:09 am to
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How did you confirm that ABS only uses a two-dimensional reading?
Umm, because MLB and everywhere tells you this

quote:

Is the ABS strike zone three-dimensional? No. Though the rulebook defines the strike zone as a three-dimensional box, the ABS strike zone is two-dimensional.


MLB.com
This post was edited on 3/31/26 at 8:10 am
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:11 am to
TV strike zones do the same thing. They like to show where the catcher catches the ball. It’s all for controversy and clicks. Like the last pitch of the US/DR WBC game.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:12 am to
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Can you provide some physics on how much a sinker ball sinks from the beginning of home plate to the middle?
3” is the answer there.
Posted by Ryan3232
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:22 am to
I’m sure this was considered with how they setup ABS zones for these challenges, but I was curious how much it takes into consideration the height of someone.

Aka a 6’7” AJudge vs a 5’6” JAltuve.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
110352 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:24 am to
They had the ability to use an actually accurate 3d zone. They didn’t like the “optics” of actual strikes sometimes hitting the dirt

So instead they intentionally chose a system that does not follow the actual rule book on a strike. It’s crazy and harms breaking ball and sinker pitchers
This post was edited on 3/31/26 at 8:25 am
Posted by JimTiger72
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:32 am to
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I was curious how much it takes into consideration the height of someone.

Aka a 6’7” AJudge vs a 5’6” JAltuve.

This was from when it began in 2022 but probably still applicable
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in spring training, every position player had their heights measured without cleats by "a team of independent testers conducting manual measurements," and by representatives from "a research institute using biomechanical analysis to confirm the manual measurements and safeguard against potential manipulation." Those heights are then used to determine the player's ABS strike zone.

The ABS strike zone is 17 inches wide, the same as home plate. The top end of the zone is the equivalent to 53.5% of the player's height, while the bottom end is equivalent to 27% of the player's height. The depth of the zone is 8.5 inches from both the front and back of the plate to its center.
Posted by JimTiger72
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:32 am to
Really strange take coming from a tennis guy
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:34 am to
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Really strange take coming from a tennis guy
Why? If Hawkeye intentionally setup their system to say hitting the line is out I would call it stupid as frick as well

Intentionally setting up your system to not follow your rulebook makes absolutely zero sense and the fact people are defending it is wild

A simple “MLB should have used the 3D zone to match the rulebook” being considered a take is peak MSB
This post was edited on 3/31/26 at 8:40 am
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:43 am to
This thread would do better without in Yankees game in the title. More Soy Board sees Yankees and loses it.
Posted by wahoocs
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Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:43 am to
If they used the depth of the plate, pitchers these days have spin rates causing enough movement that a strike could literally hit the ground

They don't want that
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
110352 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:45 am to
Then they need to change the rule book of baseball and not hide from it by putting out an electronic zone not following the actual rules. Because if a pitcher can spin the ball in the zone on the very front of the plate that is a strike
This post was edited on 3/31/26 at 8:46 am
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:53 am to
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Is the ABS strike zone three-dimensional? No. Though the rulebook defines the strike zone as a three-dimensional box, the ABS strike zone is two-dimensional.

The problem with that is that umps did not have the ability to correctly make the calls to match the rule.

3D testing revealed ABS was correctly calling strikes that no one else thought was an actual strike. LINK
Posted by JimTiger72
LA
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:57 am to
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More Soy Board sees Yankees and loses it.


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