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Garrett Adelstein has a book coming out where he discusses the Jack 4 hand
Posted on 3/26/26 at 8:04 am
Posted on 3/26/26 at 8:04 am
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Posted on 3/26/26 at 8:12 am to stout
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Old TD.com thread about it: The craziest/best poker call I've ever seen (270k pot)
Great thread showing tons of people who don't understand poker
Glancing at it and Open Your Eyes looks particularly retarded
This post was edited on 3/26/26 at 8:19 am
Posted on 3/26/26 at 8:24 am to stout
So wait I am confused, he had a bad beat ,but he made her give him the money back? Why would she do that? Also luck happens in poker and obviously she shouldn't have called ,but she did and she won, it happens. This guy seems like a fricking tool unless I am missing something.
Posted on 3/26/26 at 8:25 am to stout
After the NBA/mafia thing it is very easy to believe cheating was going on, not that it wasn’t before.
That said is it possible that she is kinda dumb and retard unpredictablity has some advantages against overly analytical poker nerds in 1 off situations? I haven’t paid attention to or played poker in ages so I don’t know
That said is it possible that she is kinda dumb and retard unpredictablity has some advantages against overly analytical poker nerds in 1 off situations? I haven’t paid attention to or played poker in ages so I don’t know
Posted on 3/26/26 at 8:31 am to stout
Analytics nerds do occasionally deserve this.
Posted on 3/26/26 at 8:37 am to Dire Wolf
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After the NBA/mafia thing it is very easy to believe cheating was going on, not that it wasn’t before.
IIRC, this came shortly after the Mile Postle cheating scandal
I think she misread the board/her hand but the controversy made everyone dig in
And fwiw, Garret was far from GTO back then. Its not fair to call him an analytics nerd
Posted on 3/26/26 at 8:49 am to stelly1025
Because of the way Robbie played the hand and some inconsistencies in what she said afterwards, the only realistic explanations were cheating or a misread hand.
Posted on 3/26/26 at 8:51 am to stout
I have no idea what the hell you are even talking about or who that guy is
Posted on 3/26/26 at 9:00 am to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
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I have no idea what the hell you are even talking about or who that guy is
Even if you don't, the video in the OP doesn't take a MENSA-level IQ to watch and get up to speed
Posted on 3/26/26 at 9:06 am to SlowFlowPro
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Great thread showing tons of people who don't understand poker
Also a great thread showing that poker bros have no concept of the fact that sometimes in poker people make stupid decisions that still manage to work out for them. It can't possibly be that she called him because she thought he was full of shite and wanted to know (she even admits that she doesn't have jack shite IIRC), it HAS to be because she is cheating with RFID chips and whatnot.
I'm glancing through the OG thread, and it seems like they ended up basically shaking her down and taking the money from her. People should be way more upset about that bullshite, especially if there is no proof at all that she cheated (I don't remember if anything ever came of all of this to prove or disprove that...can someone provide an update?). But they won't be upset about them stealing money from her though. Poker bros have to stick together.
This post was edited on 3/26/26 at 9:08 am
Posted on 3/26/26 at 9:26 am to Dire Wolf
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That said is it possible that she is kinda dumb and retard unpredictablity has some advantages against overly analytical poker nerds in 1 off situations? I haven’t paid attention to or played poker in ages so I don’t know
I always assumed that the money was fake in these "home games for tv" shows. That explained the move to me.
Posted on 3/26/26 at 9:30 am to stelly1025
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So wait I am confused, he had a bad beat ,but he made her give him the money back? Why would she do that? Also luck happens in poker and obviously she shouldn't have called ,but she did and she won, it happens. This guy seems like a fricking tool unless I am missing something.
Nope, you nailed it almost completely for the most part.
She even says during the hand that she doesn't have shite and is playing him and not the cards because she thinks he doesn't have a hand either. And the odds onscreen (which we can see and they can't obviously) even showed that it ends up being basically a coin flip (57% / 43%). Yet somehow it has to be that she's cheating. She even says that men try to bluff her a lot and that he's done it to her and she's called him and won several times before.
But nah, it has to be that she's cheating.
Posted on 3/26/26 at 9:38 am to m57
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Because of the way Robbie played the hand and some inconsistencies in what she said afterwards, the only realistic explanations were cheating or a misread hand.
What proof is there she was cheating? Unless there is proof than you can't say she was cheating. I have seen people do stupid shite at a poker table and win like this. Even if she misread the cards she still played the hand and got very lucky. It happens and that is poker sometimes. I still don't understand why she would give the money back why this is worthy of writing a book.
Posted on 3/26/26 at 9:52 am to stelly1025
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I have seen people do stupid shite at a poker table and win like this.
For a quarter million dollars? Jack high isn't even a bluff catching hand
The "poker bros" are all correct, cheating or misread hand are the only options that make any sense for that much money. This wasn't your house game with a 5 dollar buy in
Posted on 3/26/26 at 9:55 am to stelly1025
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What proof is there she was cheating?
There wasn't any, really. I think she misread her hand.
But it's just how incomprehensible the call was that led to the reactions.
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I still don't understand why she would give the money back
I make no comment about this.
That's a social game and at the time I think Garrett was the largest draw/name. It was more about the game than the hand individually. They used to do all sorts of abnormal stuff.
That's all I think not I know. I really have no assertive comment or strong opinion about that myself.
This post was edited on 3/26/26 at 9:57 am
Posted on 3/26/26 at 9:56 am to DeathValley85
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For a quarter million dollars? Jack high isn't even a bluff catching hand
That's the thing.
She loses to almost his entire bluff range. She had to think she had a small pair to bluff catch. I think admitting that was more embarrassing than the cheating allegations
Posted on 3/26/26 at 10:01 am to SlowFlowPro
I think she thought she had J-3
It's embarrasing but I'd rather admit that than everyone think I'm either a cheater or stupid
It's embarrasing but I'd rather admit that than everyone think I'm either a cheater or stupid
Posted on 3/26/26 at 10:17 am to DeathValley85
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For a quarter million dollars? Jack high isn't even a bluff catching hand ?
The "poker bros" are all correct, cheating or misread hand are the only options that make any sense for that much money. This wasn't your house game with a 5 dollar buy in
We would do 100 ,but yeah I understand it is alot more at stake here. Even still no matter how high or low the stake was, and no matter how stupid of a hand it was she still won Jack high. It doesn't matter how stupid her explanation was either she won the hand.
Posted on 3/26/26 at 11:31 am to DeathValley85
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I think she thought she had J-3 It's embarrasing but I'd rather admit that than everyone think I'm either a cheater or stupid
With those stakes, J3 or J4 should have been in the muck pre flop.
Posted on 3/26/26 at 12:54 pm to High C
You are correct, but it's a pretty loose game.
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