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Two Types of TDS and Something New...What Will Win Out With Maga?

Posted on 3/18/26 at 8:15 am
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
12589 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 8:15 am
Everyone is familiar with the term TDS, but most only recognize it as Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Blaming Trump for everything. We saw this emerge starting in 2016 during Trump's first term.

Blinded by hatred, people with TDS are literally incapable of relating to Trump objectively or acknowledging anything positive about him. Melting down in emotional rants about everything he does, when if it had been anyone else doing the same thing they wouldn't have reacted. Like in those YouTube videos where some blogger asks college kids what they think about quotes that they attribute to Trump and they all rant about them, then they reveal that it was Biden or Clinton or Sanders or someone else who said them.

Then there's a different kind of TDS: Trump Deification Syndrome. People with this sort of TDS are the mirror image of people with the original type of TDS.

They also are incapable of relating to Trump objectively, only they melt down in an emotional rant if anyone criticizes Trump about anything.

They are incapable of acknowledging anything negative about Trump, and will cheer things that Trump does when, if it had been someone else doing it, they would have been incensed by it. Like when Huckster Carlson convinced MAGA that we ought to follow the foreign policy of Jimmy Carter and for six years MAGA screamed any time they even suspect anybody wanted to engage in a military intervention anywhere, and in one single day 80% of MAGA decided that that was all bullshite because Trump started engaging in military interventions.

So two types of TDS that exactly mirror each other.

We all know that the leftist base is infected with the first type and MAGA is infected with the second type. Like diabetes, we'll call them Type 1 TDS and Type 2 TDS.

But here's the thing. Pretty much the entire left has Type 1. Bill Maher is about the only leftist I can think of who doesn't, and he still kind of does. We'll say he's only got a mild case.

But all of that brainwashing that Huckster did so successfully for so long has caused a rift in MAGA, because he and Candace Owens and a few other influencers have introduced a third disease that renders people infected with it incapable of objectivity or connection with reality: Israel Derangement Syndrome, or IDS.

And IDS has split MAGA, because Trump recognizes (correctly) that it is generally in the interest of the US to support Israel.

It's definitely not an even split...maybe it's 80-20, 70-30, something like that, but in the minority of cases, IDS seems stronger than type 2 TDS. Those people irrationally hate Israel more than they irrationally love Trump.

This is a significant development, because prior to IDS nothing seemed able to cause people with type 2 TDS to blink. I think it's because there is an inherent conspiracy theory attached to IDS, and populists can't do without conspiracy theories any more than fish can do without water. I think that Type 1 TDS is so pervasive among the left because they attach all kinds of conspiracy theories to Trump as well.

So it's very interesting to see. Will IDS continue to spread throughout MAGA, overcoming and replacing Type 2 TDS? Will the ratio of those with IDS vs Type 2 TDS continue to tip? 80-20, then 70-30, then 60-40, then 50-50? Will that happen the longer the Iran conflict goes on?

We'll see.



Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
28881 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 8:18 am to
Sir, this post is about to contribute to Type 2 TDS.

Being an enabler of a disease is not being a good member of your community.
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
12953 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 8:19 am to
The Jew-hating wing of MAGA still haven’t figured out that, for all intents and purposes, they are HAMAS…
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
41795 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 8:23 am to
You suffer from another version of TDS: Tucker Derangement Syndrome
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
19775 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 8:30 am to
Wacka, Type 2 TDS is a knee-jerk reaction to type 1 TDS... IDS is an oversimplification of the position that at least a plurality of people have- which is a baseline irritation that our own politicians drool over Israel. It's not Israel so much but our government tards' reaction to Israel.

And all of the above is magnified by an absolute treacherous media and pundit class.

People aren't the problem, government and media is.

Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
9763 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 8:32 am to
There are people dedicated to principle who can analyze and understand issues, and people 100% blindly dedicated to a single politician because they cannot.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
12589 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 8:33 am to
quote:

You suffer from another version of TDS: Tucker Derangement Syndrome


Do I?

I have always posted against Huckster, that's true. But now the majority of MAGA agree with me. So who was right about him?

Also, Huckster was just an incidental detail in that post. He wasn't the focus of it.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128020 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 8:34 am to
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people 100% blindly dedicated to a single politician because they cannot


Or podcaster.
Or news source.
Or pastor.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
12589 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 8:37 am to
quote:

Type 2 TDS is a knee-jerk reaction


Naw. I would say it's the other way around, if anything.

quote:

IDS is an oversimplification of the position


Naw. They either are all oversimplifications or none of them are.

There are reasonable people who criticize US foreign policy with respect to Israel. Just like there are reasonable people who criticize trump and reasonable people who support him.

I'm not claiming every person who takes any position has one of the three.

I'm talking about those genuinely infected. I'm sure you can tell the difference by their posts.

Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
86006 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 8:45 am to
What the hell did you just say about our beloved orange GEOTUS?!You will be popular in The Camps. The wing with no toilet paper.

Let this be a lesson to all dissenters!
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
39380 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 8:46 am to
How did the supposed Type 2 TDS group respond when Trump said he’d very soon be endorsing Cornyn in Texas and asking Paxton to step aside?

There may be a small minority of MAGA who instinctively react like the TDS bunch but all minus the Never Trumpers are pulled back to reality by rational and patriotic MAGAs. True TDS will scream at a ICE deportation gnat and swallow a camel at the massive spending fraud that subsidizes even the illegal and murderous criminal immigrants.

We’re going “trust but verify “ from here on. Trump at the fore.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
4733 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 9:30 am to
quote:

Then there's a different kind of TDS: Trump Deification Syndrome. People with this sort of TDS are the mirror image of people with the original type of TDS.

Some of us have noted that since he came down the escalator. It is a real thing. Witness it here every day.
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Bill Maher is about the only leftist I can think of who doesn't, and he still kind of does. We'll say he's only got a mild case.

Glenn Greenwald, Matt Taibbi and Jimmy Dore are all leftists that never even had the first symptoms of TDS. Dore just has GDS...Government Derangement Syndrome. But all of them are very truthful about what Trump does. They all have supported as well as condemned actions.
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But all of that brainwashing that Huckster did so successfully for so long has caused a rift in MAGA, because he and Candace Owens and a few other influencers have introduced a third disease that renders people infected with it incapable of objectivity or connection with reality: Israel Derangement Syndrome, or IDS

Did they actually brainwash anyone or was that sentiment always there? I do not listen to Tucker or Candace and I am not a fan of Israel. Course I have no political affiliation and do not blindly follow any party or their agenda, but our country has allowed Israel to get away with things we would allow no other to do and we sure do do things for them that we do not do for anyone else.
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And IDS has split MAGA, because Trump recognizes (correctly) that it is generally in the interest of the US to support Israel.

IDS is not what split MAGA. The coalition was tedious at best. The only thing Trump had to do was what he promised to do and MAGA would still be together. He did not. This is no fault of anyone but Trump. Sure, we can blame the podcasters who supported and helped him grow his base, or we can ask...what happened to make them jump ship. I find it funny that we do not question the left-wing podcasters who supported him this last election cycle now that they are dropping support for the same exact reasons.

Sure...it has to be hatred of Jooos...nothing else. No other thing or collection of things exist.


This post was edited on 3/18/26 at 9:32 am
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