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Does Zero Torque Putters have staying power ?
Posted on 3/4/26 at 5:43 pm
Posted on 3/4/26 at 5:43 pm
It would be wrong to say that they are a fad or even a novelty, but will the theory of it sustain it .
It's almost impossible to develop anything really earthshattering in golf any more.
Maybe A.I. will come up with some new materials in the future.
It's really a marvel that the establish brands moved so quickly to develop Zero Torque models after L.A.B. putters started gaining some ground on Tour.
According to A.I. - The Adoption Rate: While 10% is estimated by some, others suggest lower usage among elite, top-50 putting ranked players.
IMO, the Zero Torque movement really allowed existing putter companies to vastly over charge golfers like the new Tri-Hot Odyssey putters selling for $500.00.
Putters are so subjective and personal, some players have really improved their stats with the ZT models, while others have moved on from them.
Thoughts ?
It's almost impossible to develop anything really earthshattering in golf any more.
Maybe A.I. will come up with some new materials in the future.
It's really a marvel that the establish brands moved so quickly to develop Zero Torque models after L.A.B. putters started gaining some ground on Tour.
According to A.I. - The Adoption Rate: While 10% is estimated by some, others suggest lower usage among elite, top-50 putting ranked players.
IMO, the Zero Torque movement really allowed existing putter companies to vastly over charge golfers like the new Tri-Hot Odyssey putters selling for $500.00.
Putters are so subjective and personal, some players have really improved their stats with the ZT models, while others have moved on from them.
Thoughts ?
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Posted on 3/4/26 at 5:57 pm to bopper50
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fad
This is my vote. For most amateurs that are double digit handicaps, a new putter won’t make any real difference long term. Using one you are used to is probably way better than buying something else.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 6:37 pm to bopper50
Like everything else, they will fit and help certain players a lot.
The morons looking for lightning in a bottle will be disappointed. There’s tons of LAB putters for sale on FB marketplace.
The morons looking for lightning in a bottle will be disappointed. There’s tons of LAB putters for sale on FB marketplace.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 7:54 pm to bopper50
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others suggest lower usage among elite, top-50 putting ranked players.
Of course. Top 50 putters in the world probably don’t need to change to a zero torque putter…..
The putters require adjustment that most players won’t do. They’ll try the crappy stroke they have with other putters, and it’ll make no difference.
If you fight starting the ball on line, and you actually let a zero torque putter do the work, it helps.
If you have no issues starting the ball on line, there’s no point to changing.
Like all other clubs, it’ll fit some and not others
This post was edited on 3/4/26 at 7:57 pm
Posted on 3/5/26 at 7:59 am to hehateme2285
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Top 50 putters in the world probably don’t need to change to a zero torque putter
But quite a few have. Some putter strokes can lead to consistency struggles whereas these ZT putters can help generate a more consistent and repeatable stroke and after creating that repeatable stroke it will take even longer to switch back for most amateurs IMO.
Yes, I think they have staying power which is better measured in endurance and relevance and not just market share. Alot of amateurs don't have the patience to make the switch so they will put them up for resale but for alot of those who make the switch, I don't think you'll see a majority rush back anytime soon unless rule changes force them to.
Posted on 3/5/26 at 9:42 am to bopper50
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It's really a marvel that the establish brands moved so quickly to develop Zero Torque models after L.A.B. putters started gaining some ground on Tour.
According to A.I. - The Adoption Rate: While 10% is estimated by some, others suggest lower usage among elite, top-50 putting ranked players.
IMO, the Zero Torque movement really allowed existing putter companies to vastly over charge golfers like the new Tri-Hot Odyssey putters selling for $500.00.
Putters are so subjective and personal, some players have really improved their stats with the ZT models, while others have moved on from them.
Thoughts ?
When Scotty Cameron joins in you know it is going to have staying power.
I'm a LAB fan and love mine, but i don't think I would use another brand ZT because 1) almost every other brand is not truly ZT when put in a revealer, they are more of a "less torque" putter and 2) they aren't lie angle balanced for your personally. That would apply to buying a LAB off the shelf too unless you naturally fi the stock measurements.
It's also golfer specific too. My biggest problem with my stroke was slightly opening the face/missing left to right breaking putts on the right side. The LAB has helped quite a bit with that. Most of my misses now are a misread, distance judgement, or tug, not because I made a good swing but my face was slightly opened.
Not every golfer has a problem with their stroke that a ZT putter will help. It's not a magic wand, but for certain golfers like myself, it can at least help one to two variables.
Posted on 3/5/26 at 10:13 am to iwyLSUiwy
The LAB tech is real and here to stay. I have a custom fit DF3 that cost a lot of money but looking back the past two years it’s definitely worth it to me. With that said it did take me about 3 months to figure out the putter. The only drawback to me is on long putts, it’s hard to get dialed in on distance control because even though I have the heavier DF3 it still feels light to me. Since I figured out where to place the ball in my stance and eventually distance control it’s never leaving my bag anytime soon. I also love how you can get custom alignment marks. With my alignment marks and the way i put alignment marks on my ball it’s almost like a cheat code making sure my putter face is spot on to my putting line.
Posted on 3/5/26 at 11:12 am to IH8ThreePutts
I dont think yall understand how much the LAB putters help high handicappers from within 5 feet. Theres a reason they have blown up. Its much more point and shoot from that distance.
Posted on 3/5/26 at 11:17 am to RedHawk
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For most amateurs that are double digit handicaps, a new putter won’t make any real difference long term
Not saying you're wrong, but a putter for a 15-25 handicap is going to use a putter 36-40 strokes a game. That's if they 2 putt most with a couple 3 putts. Looking at a third of your round with just 1 club. I think they would benefit more from a good putter rather than that new shiny driver they HAVE to have every year..
Posted on 3/5/26 at 1:21 pm to BlackPot
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use a putter 36-40 strokes a game
How many of those putts are inside a few feet?
Also, driving the ball decent enough to keep it in play is huge for an amateur.
"If you can't putt, you can't score, but if you can't drive, you can't play".
Posted on 3/5/26 at 2:02 pm to bopper50
Just another fad.
Posted on 3/5/26 at 3:36 pm to RedHawk
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"If you can't putt, you can't score, but if you can't drive, you can't play".
This is true.
From what I’ve read, a golfer’s true potential is reflected best in tee shot length, approach shots, short game shots, and putting(which is only 15% of strokes gained for an average tour player.)
For a 10 index senior, to get better I need to hit my tee shots in play and further, hit more greens from inside 140 yards. I also need to get the short game simplified to a few reliable shots. Of course I need to putt better, but mostly from 4 to 7 feet.
Zero torque is fascinating tech. People like to experiment.
Posted on 3/5/26 at 6:37 pm to makersmark1
Some good insights here.
Posted on 3/5/26 at 8:01 pm to bopper50
I got a LAB df3. Instantly got better on short putts and puts outside 20 feet.
The tech is hard to argue against. It still just looks wrong, but they came out with an offset ZT I’m really interested in trying
The tech is hard to argue against. It still just looks wrong, but they came out with an offset ZT I’m really interested in trying
Posted on 3/5/26 at 8:14 pm to llfshoals
LAB putter is the real deal
This post was edited on 3/5/26 at 8:17 pm
Posted on 3/6/26 at 8:25 am to barbapapa
The face looks so close3d in your pictures, but I know it squares up.
I have always loved the flower band on the Diamana shafts.
I have always loved the flower band on the Diamana shafts.
Posted on 3/6/26 at 8:50 am to bopper50
I don't think I took it from the proper angle/aspect, it is 72 degree lie angle so it may look different
Posted on 3/6/26 at 8:51 am to bopper50
Diamana shaft is awesome. I also have the BB 63 in my Qi4D
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